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What series of this rare genre have you read, what did you enjoy, stuff like that. I'm curious. Since I on-and-off write such, I'm also kinda interested what cliches people have found and what brainbugs annoy them about this.
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I have read Mecdes Lackeys modern Fanatsy novles, some are out of print and Josepha Sherman's Son of Darkness I believe. There is also Laurell K Hammiltons books.
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Kitsune wrote:I have read Mecdes Lackeys modern Fanatsy novles, some are out of print and Josepha Sherman's Son of Darkness I believe. There is also Laurell K Hammiltons books.
Got 'em! :)

Although I think Laurell Hamilton's more Horror than Fantasy. Lackey's Serrated Edge and Bedlam Boys sagas are what I think of as Modern Fantasy.
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I liked SERRAted Edge, though the first three were a bit heavy handed. The fourth, Chrome Circle, was an adventure without the heavy-handed "socially relevant" bits of the first three.
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Iceberg wrote:I liked SERRAted Edge, though the first three were a bit heavy handed. The fourth, Chrome Circle, was an adventure without the heavy-handed "socially relevant" bits of the first three.
Yes, I think it was the best. I've been waiting to hear more from them, but the most I've seen lately are cameos in the Bedlam Boys.
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Does the first couple books of the Book of The New Sun count? Its the one with the sword Terminus Est, the Executioners Guild and what not. Also the Book of Swords.
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I've4 played Shadow run...


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Is this the genre that Neverwhere would fall into?
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One problem I have is that Mercedes Lackey' SERRAted Edge books but she tries to put the in the same universe as the Di Tregard universe but does not really work well for me, the magic seems much lower powered in those. As well, the last of the Bard Eric stories seems like she forgetten the flow of previous books and does not work real well. Sherman's Son of Darkness is really good and is stand alone
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I think that it's safe to declear Neil Gaiman the greatest of modern fantasy writers, what with Sandman, Neverwhere, and American Gods.
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do not forget Bad Omens also...great stuff
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lgot wrote:do not forget Bad Omens also...great stuff
That was co-authored with Terry Prachett... :P
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Yup, but I actually missed a bit of Prachett when I read American Gods...The demon that scared his plants to make them grow is just The Best :D
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That's Good Omens guys.

Anyway, would the Dark Tower books by Stephen King fall into this category?
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argh ^^ My mistake, my mistake
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Dalton wrote:Anyway, would the Dark Tower books by Stephen King fall into this category?
Sure...certainly fits some of the criteria.
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Ghost Rider wrote:
Dalton wrote:Anyway, would the Dark Tower books by Stephen King fall into this category?
Sure...certainly fits some of the criteria.
Cool. Pretty much the only stuff I've read that might be considered as Modern Fantasy.
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How abouty "American Gods"
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The Yosemite Bear wrote:How abouty "American Gods"
I love Neil Gaiman, but I think his short stories are the best.
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I am searching my room for my copy of return to innsmouth. Which has Niel Gaimian, Colin Wilson, Clive Barker and Steven King short stories involving Father Dagon's kids...
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What about Glory Road? Would that qualify?
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Robert Heinline that was a cool one.
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Does "Weaveworld" by Clive Barker count as modern fantasy?
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The Yosemite Bear wrote:Robert Heinline that was a cool one.
Glory Road is the only one of his books other than Starship Troopers that I've read more than once. I think I'm up to five times on it now.
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Post by The Yosemite Bear »

I am re reading some Peter Stroud modern fantasy too...

god that man scares me...
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