THE OotS Thread, Part V

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THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by LadyTevar » 2018-08-16 08:51pm

It was suggested a new thread begin, since Durkula is back to being Durkon, and getting a one-on-one with THOR.

For those who haven't seen it, 1135 is up
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Isolder74 » 2018-08-17 09:17am

Well if his body has turned to dust it will be a bit hard to raise him.
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Rogue 9 » 2018-08-17 04:08pm

Isolder74 wrote:
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Well if his body has turned to dust it will be a bit hard to raise him.
He was undead and then destroyed, so raise dead was already off the table. Dust or no dust, he needs resurrection.
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Crazedwraith » 2018-08-17 04:31pm

Rogue 9 wrote:
2018-08-17 04:08pm
Isolder74 wrote:
2018-08-17 09:17am
Well if his body has turned to dust it will be a bit hard to raise him.
He was undead and then destroyed, so raise dead was already off the table. Dust or no dust, he needs resurrection.
Does having the dust make it easier? Durkon mentioned they'd need some of it in a previous strip.
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Rogue 9 » 2018-08-17 05:09pm

Crazedwraith wrote:
2018-08-17 04:31pm
Rogue 9 wrote:
2018-08-17 04:08pm
Isolder74 wrote:
2018-08-17 09:17am
Well if his body has turned to dust it will be a bit hard to raise him.
He was undead and then destroyed, so raise dead was already off the table. Dust or no dust, he needs resurrection.
Does having the dust make it easier? Durkon mentioned they'd need some of it in a previous strip.
If they have no remains at all, the only thing that can work is either true resurrection (a 9th level spell requiring a diamond worth 25,000 gold) or wish to recreate the body followed by resurrection (which is even worse in the costs department thanks to the massive XP cost on wish). So in short, yes.
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Isolder74 » 2018-08-17 09:47pm

So it is either the same effort needed to raise Roy or a few steps more complicated. On a plus side they are surrounded by clerics right now.
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Solauren » 2018-08-17 10:09pm

Unfortunately, the odds that there is a cleric powerful enough to cast Resurrection or True Resurrection nearby are a long shot.

So, to quote Elan, it's probably a sure thing.
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Crazedwraith » 2018-08-18 04:09am

Durkon could cast resurrection and Hilgya is probably a similar level by the rival clause (like crystal and Haley)

I'm expecting actually convincing her to do it is going to take some convincing.
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Bedlam » 2018-08-18 05:12am

Crazedwraith wrote:
2018-08-18 04:09am
Durkon could cast resurrection and Hilgya is probably a similar level by the rival clause (like crystal and Haley)

I'm expecting actually convincing her to do it is going to take some convincing.
I imagine the fact he's probably gone to Valhalla where he wants to end up will probably be important in the argument, drag him back so he can suffer a less noble death further down the line.

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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Jub » 2018-08-18 06:17am

Thor might also pull some strings to ensure Durkon gets to where he needs to go. Literal Deus Vult in action.

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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Isolder74 » 2018-08-18 09:59pm

Bedlam wrote:
2018-08-18 05:12am
Crazedwraith wrote:
2018-08-18 04:09am
Durkon could cast resurrection and Hilgya is probably a similar level by the rival clause (like crystal and Haley)

I'm expecting actually convincing her to do it is going to take some convincing.
I imagine the fact he's probably gone to Valhalla where he wants to end up will probably be important in the argument, drag him back so he can suffer a less noble death further down the line.
Even if he's in his perfect afterlife it's rather obvious that Dukon's sense of duty will have him answer the call to return to finish the quest. I'm assuming right now that Thor has some info on the snarl or special instructions for Durkon before he does go back. Or he's hoping to get more info on Hel's scheme.

Remember, Durkon isn't responsible for the actions of the Vampire borrowing his body.
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Lonestar » 2018-08-21 04:05pm

"You've been dead, what, 5 and a half years?"

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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Lonestar » 2018-08-21 04:06pm

Also Thor doesn't seem overly concerned that he slept with a priest of Loki.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Crazedwraith » 2018-08-21 04:14pm

How long has it been since that strip was published? Not really 5 and a half years surely? (etA: holy shit it was. March 2013 So nearly.)

Anyway, Thor is surprisingly good people.

Wait, is Minrah heading straight to Valhalla? I'd like her to stick around, she's fun.
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Rogue 9 » 2018-08-24 10:19pm

1137 is up, and Thor is just dropping info on Durkon all over the place.
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Isolder74 » 2018-08-24 11:35pm

Figured as much!
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Rogue 9 » 2018-08-29 07:49pm

It's Rogue, not Rouge!

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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by LadyTevar » 2018-08-30 07:47pm

That is one of the best explanations of Astral and the Heavens/Hells that I've seen!
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Bedlam » 2018-08-31 01:54pm

LadyTevar wrote:
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That is one of the best explanations of Astral and the Heavens/Hells that I've seen!
Yeah, I've really got to try and work that into my current Planescape campaign.

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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Lonestar » 2018-08-31 02:17pm

Quick Guide to the Outer Planes from Reddit

Elysium - True Good - "Everyone should Care"

The Beastlands - Good but a little Chaotic - "Who's a good dog, you are!"

Arboria - Chaotic Good - "Words aren't as important as people"

Ysgard - Chaotic but a little good - "Fight the good fight!"

Limbo - True Chaos - "Don't you tell me what to do!"

Pandemonium - Chaotic but a little evil - "LULZ"

The Abyss- Chatoic Evil - "Screw you jack, I got mine."

Carcerei - Evil but a little Chaotic - "You're bad and you should feel bad."

Hades - True Evil - "Nothing Matters"

Gehena - Evil but a little lawful - "Resistance is futile"

Baator (the 9 hells) - Lawful Evil - "Yes, but if you read the fine print..."

Archeron - Lawful but a little evil - "I was just following orders..."

Mechanus - True Lawful - "There's only one right path"

Arcadia - Lawful but a little good - "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."

Celestia - Lawful Good - "Truth, justice, and the celestial way."

Bytopia - Good but a little lawful - "Let's all do our part"
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

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You missed one: -

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Post by Raesene » 2018-09-05 12:04pm

1139

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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Crazedwraith » 2018-09-05 12:13pm

Reminds me of that episode where Arnold Rimmer becomes Ace Rimmer.
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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by Bedlam » 2018-09-05 01:42pm

That is a whole lot of universes.

If the second lasted 4 years and the next was much stronger how old is this universe? My immediate idea was that it might actually only be a few decades old but the gods create everything including memories making the mortals think the universe is much older but I guess there's no evidence of that.

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Re: THE OotS Thread, Part V

Post by FaxModem1 » 2018-09-05 11:03pm

Whoa.......

Uh, wow. That's a heck of a way to make one think on your existence. No wonder so many of the Gods at the Godsmoot were in favor of redoing the universe again. To them, it's just so old hat that it doesn't matter if they do it again.

So, what does it mean for the heroes when the gods can't learn from their mistakes?
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