Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by Rogue 9 » 2018-03-14 04:53pm

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I'd like to point out that when Killmonger first ordered the Heart-Shaped Herb garden burned he was met with verbal resistance. He then physically threatened the person who was trying to talk him out, so everyone in the room concluded that staying alive meant burning the Herb. As to what everyone else would think...
We didn't see him interact with any Wakandans other than W'kabi's tribe after that, and W'kabi was apparently behind whatever the fuck he did since Killmonger got Klaue and was seeing through his wet dream of conquering the world.
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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by EnterpriseSovereign » 2018-03-15 11:17am

Is the chemical which nullifies the Black Panther powers for challenges made from the same herbs? Otherwise Killmonger would be fucked the moment someone decided to put it in his drink.
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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by EnterpriseSovereign » 2018-03-15 12:13pm

GHETTO EDIT: This is why there's no Black Widow movie! :P :lol:
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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by Crazedwraith » 2018-03-16 12:17pm

Just waitimg for after credits scenes now.

Its a fine movie and forgive me if this has been discussed before. But its bugs me. Doesnt the world already know thst Wakanda is more than it seemed. The wakandans that got blown up accisentally by in Civil War were already on a science outreach mission.
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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by AniThyng » 2018-03-16 01:29pm

Crazedwraith wrote:
2018-03-16 12:17pm
Just waitimg for after credits scenes now.

Its a fine movie and forgive me if this has been discussed before. But its bugs me. Doesnt the world already know thst Wakanda is more than it seemed. The wakandans that got blown up accisentally by in Civil War were already on a science outreach mission.
Wasn't it a regular aid mission?
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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by Crazedwraith » 2018-03-16 01:53pm

AniThyng wrote:
2018-03-16 01:29pm
Crazedwraith wrote:
2018-03-16 12:17pm
Just waitimg for after credits scenes now.

Its a fine movie and forgive me if this has been discussed before. But its bugs me. Doesnt the world already know thst Wakanda is more than it seemed. The wakandans that got blown up accisentally by in Civil War were already on a science outreach mission.
Wasn't it a regular aid mission?
I'd have to rewatch Civil War to refresh the details but it was some kind of aid working and I'm sure T'Chakka's speech at least hinted they were way more that farmers. It's not a big thing but I did notice it.

Also if they never caught Klaw when did they brand him?
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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by Q99 » 2018-03-16 05:03pm

Crazedwraith wrote:
2018-03-16 01:53pm

Also if they never caught Klaw when did they brand him?
I'm guessing he got caught, branded, and then broke out and escaped. Either as part of the original heist, or the original heist was his *second* try and he was tapped by T'chaka's brother with 'how would you like to know how to try again and get away this time?'.

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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by Coop D'etat » 2018-03-18 05:18pm

Crazedwraith wrote:
2018-03-16 01:53pm
AniThyng wrote:
2018-03-16 01:29pm
Crazedwraith wrote:
2018-03-16 12:17pm
Just waitimg for after credits scenes now.

Its a fine movie and forgive me if this has been discussed before. But its bugs me. Doesnt the world already know thst Wakanda is more than it seemed. The wakandans that got blown up accisentally by in Civil War were already on a science outreach mission.
Wasn't it a regular aid mission?
I'd have to rewatch Civil War to refresh the details but it was some kind of aid working and I'm sure T'Chakka's speech at least hinted they were way more that farmers. It's not a big thing but I did notice it.

Also if they never caught Klaw when did they brand him?
They were medical aid workers. No implied superscience, just an outreach program T'Chakka started to improve Wakanda's image after their stolen Vibranium was used to trash Sokovia.

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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by Rogue 9 » 2018-03-18 09:12pm

Semi-related, Marvel co-produced with BET and ran on the network a Black Panther cartoon mini-series back in 2011, and is currently streaming it free on their YouTube channel.
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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by Elheru Aran » 2018-03-19 03:57pm

Good lord I really don't like John Romita Jr's artwork...

Anyway. I saw this the other night. I can't say as I have too much to add to the reviews here, but for my part, I enjoyed it, it seemed fairly clearly written in that both protagonist and antagonist's motivations were laid out, and the finale of the film I couldn't argue with too much.

Would've been nice if they had the last post-credits scene happen *during* the credits though rather than waiting until the very end of the credits, though.
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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by Rogue 9 » 2018-03-19 07:28pm

Elheru Aran wrote:
2018-03-19 03:57pm
Good lord I really don't like John Romita Jr's artwork...
Yeah, I really don't care for the animation style either. I just thought I'd leave it here in case someone might want to see it.
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Would've been nice if they had the last post-credits scene happen *during* the credits though rather than waiting until the very end of the credits, though.
Yeah, but they're not going to do that. It's a ploy to make people sit through the credits; being done with post-credits scenes before the end of the credits defeats the purpose. :wink:
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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by EnterpriseSovereign » 2018-03-20 02:25pm

As I said before, I just knew that we'd see Bucky again given he'd been put on ice at the end of CW- it was telling that they felt the need to introduce him by name in case the audience didn't immediately recognise him. Even though being a post-credits scene casual viewers don't usually hang around until the very end, the ones most likely to do so are also most likely to recognise Bucky immediately IMO. Unless somehow they missed the awesomeness that was Civil War! :mrgreen:
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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by Elheru Aran » 2018-03-20 02:31pm

Pulling Bucky out at this point was mostly to keep him fresh for the upcoming Infinity War movies. Pretty sure anybody who stuck around for the last post-credits scene is enough of a fan that they'll have watched most of the other movies.

EDIT: I've been thinking about this for a minute and I think I have a problem, actually.

Go back to Age of Ultron. Ultron attacks Ulysses Klaue to steal his vibranium, right, and the Avengers show up, Wanda screws with their heads, Hulk goes off on one of his rampages... wasn't that in Wakanda? In a rather large city for that matter? And one of Tony's moves is to buy a skyscraper outright before he pile-drives Hulk through it?

I'm not 100%-- it could've been a city in South Africa-- but I think the implication was pretty strong it was Wakanda, and if so, that doesn't really jive with the whole cloaked-metropolis thing they had going in Black Panther. At the very least, if it was the same city, Tony would have *definitely* noticed the high tech present like maglev cable-cars and UFO shuttles. I suppose there's a possibility that it's *another* city in Wakanda that the Wakandans present as a facade to keep outsiders' curiosity down, which I could kinda see them doing, but something about it has been niggling me since I thought back to AoU.
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Post by Civil War Man » 2018-03-20 02:49pm

I didn't see any implication that it was Wakanda. The Iron Man/Hulk fight scene was filmed in Johannesburg, though I believe in the movie it's supposed to be Cape Town. The only reference to Wakanda in AoU is that Klaue's brand is Wakandan, and all references to Wakanda in the MCU have placed it around Kenya, Uganda, and Ethiopia.

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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by Elheru Aran » 2018-03-21 02:07pm

Hm. I suppose it might have been a South African city. I honestly don't recall if it said one way or the other. The main thing I remember is that Klaue was in a ship graveyard, off the coast obviously though it could have been a big lake like Lake Victoria or Lake Tanganyika, which would be about the right area for Wakanda.

I suppose if it didn't say outright in a caption or something, it was probably just supposed to be a generic large African city or something like that. If it came up in dialogue I probably missed it; captions devices (as opposed to on-screen captions) are notorious for being unreliable.
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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by Q99 » 2018-03-22 08:54am

If Klaw was there and alive, it wasn't Wakanda. South Africa makes sense because, hey, he's from there.

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Post by LadyTevar » 2018-03-22 03:41pm

Elheru Aran wrote:
2018-03-21 02:07pm
Hm. I suppose it might have been a South African city. I honestly don't recall if it said one way or the other. The main thing I remember is that Klaue was in a ship graveyard, off the coast obviously though it could have been a big lake like Lake Victoria or Lake Tanganyika, which would be about the right area for Wakanda.

I suppose if it didn't say outright in a caption or something, it was probably just supposed to be a generic large African city or something like that. If it came up in dialogue I probably missed it; captions devices (as opposed to on-screen captions) are notorious for being unreliable.
Klaue was NOT in Wakanda. It was South Africa, because the Hulk was trashing Johannesburg. Klaue's base was a rusting ship named the "Churchill" in the middle of the "Salvage Yard" along South Africa's coast.
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Re: Black Panther Release Thread (spoilers)

Post by mr friendly guy » 2018-03-25 09:33pm

FaxModem1 wrote:
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China doesn't like it, as it's 'too black'. Quartz
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