RAR The Gate Opens in a Remote Area of Afghanistan

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RAR The Gate Opens in a Remote Area of Afghanistan

Post by amigocabal » 2017-12-13 04:00pm

Have any of you heard of the Gate series? In it, a Gate to another world opened in the Ginza district of Tokyo, Japan

Here is an RAR. what if the Gate opened in a remote area of Taliban-held territory in Afghanistan, perhaps a hundred or so klicks from Bagram Air Base? How would the various nations respond?

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Re: RAR The Gate Opens in a Remote Area of Afghanistan

Post by Broomstick » 2017-12-13 04:25pm

I don't think it is the best approach, but...

.... I'd be really tempted to set up bleachers, sell tickets, and have a popcorn concession stand.

I mean, really, fantasy knights and orcs vs. the Taliban? It would give the Taliban & Co something to distract them from annoying the rest of the world, and if it looked like the fantasy dudes might make for a serious invasion we could always go back to supplying the religious nutjobs with weapons.

Of course we'd send envoys to the other side and explain sorry, but the Gate opened into a part of our world that's a backward cesspit, but the rest of us are quite civilized, can we talk over a cup of tea?
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Re: RAR The Gate Opens in a Remote Area of Afghanistan

Post by Solauren » 2017-12-13 05:15pm

Let The Taliban absorb the attacks until they break, then bomb the crap out of the invaders until they get the idea that our world is dangerous.
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Re: RAR The Gate Opens in a Remote Area of Afghanistan

Post by The Romulan Republic » 2017-12-13 05:59pm

I'm not familiar with the series in question, so...

Are we talking about a single hostile faction on the other side that will invade (In which case, yeah, let the Taliban soak them up, carpet-bomb them if they get close to shit we actually care about)? Or are there multiple factions, some of whom we could deal/trade with?

But honestly, the military strategy in a situation like this is far less interesting than the massive cultural and scientific/technological upheaval caused by finding unambiguous proof that MAGIC EXISTS.

In short, the indirect implications of the scenario are more interesting, and more profound, than the scenario itself.
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Re: RAR The Gate Opens in a Remote Area of Afghanistan

Post by Vendetta » 2017-12-14 01:45pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:
2017-12-13 05:59pm
Are we talking about a single hostile faction on the other side that will invade (In which case, yeah, let the Taliban soak them up, carpet-bomb them if they get close to shit we actually care about)? Or are there multiple factions, some of whom we could deal/trade with?
It's a quasi-feudal empire on the other side, so there are multiple factions but they act reasonably unified (the first big battle of the series the Emperor manages to get most of the armies of his client kings and vassals wiped out whilst preserving his own forces so they couldn't cause internal trouble).



The biggest difference in this scenario is that by opening in a remote area of Afghanistan instead of Shinjuku, the empire will basically find not a lot when they come through the gate, and they may lose interest entirely because they'll basically get access to a few hundred square miles of inhospitable desert mountains they can't easily move or supply armies through, which are full of well dug in militants with (to them) advanced weapons who are far better at ambushes than they can readily comprehend.

On the other hand, the gate itself is afaik just a hole in space, so in the middle of nowhere in the Afghan mountains it will be all but impossible to find from this side (they found it from the other side because it opened in one of their major holy sites, which also produced the major military response when the JSDF secured the far side).

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2017-12-13 04:25pm
Of course we'd send envoys to the other side and explain sorry, but the Gate opened into a part of our world that's a backward cesspit, but the rest of us are quite civilized, can we talk over a cup of tea?
The Empire isn't very civilised. Their first course of action on finding another world is to raid it for slaves.

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Re: RAR The Gate Opens in a Remote Area of Afghanistan

Post by Titan Uranus » 2017-12-14 06:25pm

Just like in the episodes of “Gate” that I watched before it became too “anime” for my tastes implied, I suspect that the main conflict will be about the great powers divvying up and exploiting the resources of a virgin world full of magic and savages.

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Re: RAR The Gate Opens in a Remote Area of Afghanistan

Post by Broomstick » 2017-12-15 01:14am

Vendetta wrote:
2017-12-14 01:45pm
The Empire isn't very civilised. Their first course of action on finding another world is to raid it for slaves.
If they try that with our world they'll likely get curb-stomped if the Taliban doesn't toast them first. There's too much technology difference.
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Re: RAR The Gate Opens in a Remote Area of Afghanistan

Post by amigocabal » 2017-12-15 02:07pm

Broomstick wrote:
2017-12-15 01:14am
Vendetta wrote:
2017-12-14 01:45pm
The Empire isn't very civilised. Their first course of action on finding another world is to raid it for slaves.
If they try that with our world they'll likely get curb-stomped if the Taliban doesn't toast them first. There's too much technology difference.
The Taliban should be able to hold Alnus Hill.

Of course, actually taking the war to the Empire is another matter. The Taliban do not have the sheer numbers that the JSDF (let alone the U.S. military) has. They would have to make allies on the other side if they want to launch an offensive.

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Re: RAR The Gate Opens in a Remote Area of Afghanistan

Post by Vendetta » 2017-12-15 04:07pm

Broomstick wrote:
2017-12-15 01:14am
Vendetta wrote:
2017-12-14 01:45pm
The Empire isn't very civilised. Their first course of action on finding another world is to raid it for slaves.
If they try that with our world they'll likely get curb-stomped if the Taliban doesn't toast them first. There's too much technology difference.
Yeah, that’s basically what happens in the series. The only major military engagement is “medieval army fails to understand why it is exploding now.”

A good amount of the conflict only occurs because the emperor has a stroke and his idiot son is being manipulated into fighting an unwinnable war by a salve our for revenge for the fate of her people and her personal mistreatment.

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