You command the Watcher's Council.

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Re: You command the Watcher's Council.

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Well, Ethan Rayne did something similar with chocolate bars in Band Candy. I'm sure we can do something similar if we wish to, our target could be anything that is consumed in massive quantities.
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FaxModem1 wrote:Well, Ethan Rayne did something similar with chocolate bars in Band Candy. I'm sure we can do something similar if we wish to, our target could be anything that is consumed in massive quantities.
Ethan Rayne used magic candy on the scale of one small town.

Granted, the Watcher's Council probably has more resources than Rayne and the Mayor of Sunnydale, but enough to do something like that globally?

Edit: Sure, controlling major companies like in this scenario of your's might give them more resources. But I still wonder how many priests you'd need to bless everything Apple produces, for example.
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Still, imagine if we invested in Coca Cola for instance, and blessed the water tanks before the bottles are made. Everyone in America who drinks Coke now has Demon repellent in their system until they digest it out. That's going to make vampires and demons nervous about who they feed on.
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I understand the advantage in theory. Its just the practicality that's an issue.

Well, that and that the vampires could just start feeding on health food types if targeted Coca Cola. :lol: Or drag captives back to their lair and keep them for a few days before feeding. Or start breeding/farming them for food.
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It really depends on the amount of preparation and time that went into the band Candy spell. A week or more for a warehouse, and its rather impractical. 12 hours or less and this can have the same amount of dedication as a kosher meal.
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As for dealing with Vegans, Organic food growers, etc. Not all vampires will be able to do this, those who do will be much more conspicuous because of the extra effort they will have to put in to get a meal, making it easier to hunt them down. Its not intended as a 100 percent anti-vampire measure. It is intended to make our job easier and the vampires' job harder. We can also invest in organic food companies if needed.
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Or just you know, bless the water supply. A casual visit to the waterworks of major cities would do wonders.
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Purple wrote:Or just you know, bless the water supply. A casual visit to the waterworks of major cities would do wonders.
Unfortunately, we don't know how to do that, as the water will constantly be moving, never stopping, and going in thousands of different directions. As an example, throw some lemonade mix into a lake or river, it might affect a tiny bit, but it won't affect the entire stream. I think the same would apply to trying to bless it. Doing so to a factory's water tank, sprinkler system or equivalent would be much easier.


Another idea I had was finding the contractor for whomever made Wesley's sword/stake wrist device, and make it standard equipment for all Slayers and Watchers in the field, as it's rather easy to hide with a long sleeve, has multiple uses, and would come in handy as a backup weapon for anyone low on weaponry or in a tight spot, which tends to happen in the Buffy-world a lot.
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I think the stakes up the sleeves was Angel's gimmick, not Wesley's. Though Weasley later used a variant with a blade.

And as for blessing water, I figure there's probably a limit on how much you can bless at once.
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They were collapsible swords commissioned by Wesley and made or distributed by Emil. Considering our resources, we can either find a way to contract them out to builder, or find a way to get the blueprints and make our own factory.
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One thing to determine is: Who can bless and to what extent. What symbols repel a vampire and why. After all, it can be argued just about anything can be a holy symbol to someone and anyone can become a legal minister easily online.
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Hmm, if Bhuddist prayer wheels count, they could be added to production lines in China.
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IIRC (but it's been a very long time since I watched either Buffy or Angel, and Angel was always my preference, so heaping grains of salt) crosses only worked on vampires that came from Christian backgrounds; at some point someone tried pulling a cross on either an Asian or a pagan vampire and got swatted for their trouble. Or maybe I'm thinking of a Star of David.

There's also at least one episode where Xander makes a cross with a pair of candlesticks and the vampire just laughs, so it's got to be a proper symbol, not something you cobble together.
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To the best of my knowledge, as far as symbols go, its only crosses that generally effect vampires and they do it pretty consistently (though the Master, Angel, and Spike were all able to overcome the fear of touching crosses, albeit not the burning effect, due to will/mental state). Which is a bit odd given that Whedon is an atheist, but I guess its a traditional part of vampire lore. Holy water and consecrated ground burns them as well, and garlic can apparently have an effect on them too (its shown in season three of BtVS that if you can get them to ingest holy water, it can be lethal). And there's some sort of ritual you can perform to bar a vampire you've previously invited into your home (Buffy employs it against Angel, Spike, and Harmony at various times). That seems to possibly be a mix of Christian and non-Christian elements.

For other holy symbols being useful, you might be confusing this with a different story. Off the top of my head, I know it works that way in The Dresden Files (Dresden once uses his pentacle amulet to burn a vampire, I believe, on the basis that its the symbol of magic and that's what he believes in). Don't know if any other stories have taken that approach.

Might also have come up in the Buffy comics, I suppose. I haven't read much of them.
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