Joffrey Baratheon (GoT) gets a Death Note
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Joffrey Baratheon (GoT) gets a Death Note
Joffrey, upon becoming king, receives a Death Note notebook, from Death Note, and instruction on how it works and what it does. He also gets shinigami eyes for free.
How does this change things?
How does this change things?
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Oh god. Why Joffrey? Why not someone with an actual sense of self-control and intelligence?
In Joffrey hands, half the Seven Kingdoms will fall over dead before too long. White Walkers will be able to sweep across the continent with ease. He doesn't have the discipline or the sense to not kill people who are actually important at keeping the world safe in the long run.
In Joffrey hands, half the Seven Kingdoms will fall over dead before too long. White Walkers will be able to sweep across the continent with ease. He doesn't have the discipline or the sense to not kill people who are actually important at keeping the world safe in the long run.
It's a strange world. Let's keep it that way.
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90% of the noble houses are dead. Minimum 90% of the named characters in the book die and die horribly. That's assuming Joffrey can keep it a secret... which he won't so the real RAR is....
Tywin Lannister takes a Death Note from Joffrey, and peace ruled over the land forever.
Tywin Lannister takes a Death Note from Joffrey, and peace ruled over the land forever.
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Littlefinger sits back with his little smile, watching as many fall... Then one night Joffrey awakes to find his Death Note is missing. In its place is a simple note:
"Your Highness,
Thank you for your efforts in culling the herd of would-be power-grabbers. The Death Gods didn't know what they were getting into when I guided them into giving you the Death Note. Very few challengers remain, and I stand at the top of potential claimants. All that is left now is you name me your True Heir. Upon completion of reading this letter, you will destroy it and tell none it was written. You will then make the decree. It has been written in the Death Note you so loved, and so you know there is no way to avoid the events coming to pass as I decree. After your decree is officially documented, you will climb to the highest tower in King's Landing and throw yourself to the stones below.
Regards,
King of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm - Petyr Baelish"
Because of fucking course Littlefinger would be behind all of it.
"Your Highness,
Thank you for your efforts in culling the herd of would-be power-grabbers. The Death Gods didn't know what they were getting into when I guided them into giving you the Death Note. Very few challengers remain, and I stand at the top of potential claimants. All that is left now is you name me your True Heir. Upon completion of reading this letter, you will destroy it and tell none it was written. You will then make the decree. It has been written in the Death Note you so loved, and so you know there is no way to avoid the events coming to pass as I decree. After your decree is officially documented, you will climb to the highest tower in King's Landing and throw yourself to the stones below.
Regards,
King of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm - Petyr Baelish"
Because of fucking course Littlefinger would be behind all of it.
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Can the Death Note kill the Others?
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Only if the person using it knows the full name of the Other in question. The rules are pretty clear on that bit. Can't be a pseudonym. Their actual name.
So... Not really.
So... Not really.
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Even Varys is most probably safe from it under those circumstances...
I don't even know if it would work against faceless men, or the Unsullied, as they don't really have a name, as well... (They used to draw their name each day, so each of them has had so many names it would be hard to write them down... And if their first name counts, then you're really out of luck, for even they don't know it anymore..)
I don't even know if it would work against faceless men, or the Unsullied, as they don't really have a name, as well... (They used to draw their name each day, so each of them has had so many names it would be hard to write them down... And if their first name counts, then you're really out of luck, for even they don't know it anymore..)
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More seriously, Joffrey has the intellect of a turnip and a bigger ego than Light Yagami. He's even more impulsive and cruel than Light at his worst. So... Yeah. People vital to things running smoothly die. Joffrey would likely start using it to bump off other potential "usurpers" to his thrown. Like his siblings.
Though he'd be unable to do shit about people he'd ever met. If he'd never seen the person's face, he can't meet one of the requirements of the Death Note. Meaning he'd probably wind up getting his face melted off by a dragon, assuming someone else didn't kill him before that. There's a non-zero chance he'd have wound up being poisoned anyway. All the people involved in that little assassination were ones Joffrey didn't want dead, either because they weren't a threat or because they were so fun to torture. (See: Sansa)
He doesn't have the intellect to actually put it to good use.
Though he'd be unable to do shit about people he'd ever met. If he'd never seen the person's face, he can't meet one of the requirements of the Death Note. Meaning he'd probably wind up getting his face melted off by a dragon, assuming someone else didn't kill him before that. There's a non-zero chance he'd have wound up being poisoned anyway. All the people involved in that little assassination were ones Joffrey didn't want dead, either because they weren't a threat or because they were so fun to torture. (See: Sansa)
He doesn't have the intellect to actually put it to good use.
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can Joffery write?
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I don't really watch the show... but is Joffrey the type who would made the trade for the shinigami eyes? His body count would be a lot higher then because all he'd need to do is see the person's face.
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According to the OP, he somehow gets the eyes for free in this scenario.
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Oh, whoops! Well, that does take a bit fun out of it though - from what I've read so far he seems like a real dick, and it'd be interesting to see to see whether he'd prefer to live longer or kill people more easily.
Sooo... how do you think the Shinigami would behave? According to the How to Read, Shinigami almsot always end up killing Death Note owners pretty quickly, usually out of boredom. Light only survived as long as he did because Ryuk found his antics entertaining. Goffrey doesn't seem to be long-term planning type who'd keep someone like Ryuk interested. Mind you, he could always end up with Sidoh...
Sooo... how do you think the Shinigami would behave? According to the How to Read, Shinigami almsot always end up killing Death Note owners pretty quickly, usually out of boredom. Light only survived as long as he did because Ryuk found his antics entertaining. Goffrey doesn't seem to be long-term planning type who'd keep someone like Ryuk interested. Mind you, he could always end up with Sidoh...
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I've not readthe books but in the TV series it seemed the only reason Joffrey didn't kill more people then he did was that in addition of being a sadist he was a major coward and that's without an untraceble means of killing who ever you want to essentially.
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Yeah... Joffrey is basically a pampered mama's boy of a untouchable teenager. He's got a lot of bluster, but actually threaten him in person and he folds.
It's a strange world. Let's keep it that way.
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95% of shinigami are so apathetic and bored they sometimes fail to feed themselves and die, IIRC. Since said feeding involves killing people with their DN, they would probably love someone willing to go on murder sprees while they lie belly up all day long.Tribble wrote:Sooo... how do you think the Shinigami would behave? According to the How to Read, Shinigami almsot always end up killing Death Note owners pretty quickly, usually out of boredom. Light only survived as long as he did because Ryuk found his antics entertaining. Goffrey doesn't seem to be long-term planning type who'd keep someone like Ryuk interested. Mind you, he could always end up with Sidoh...
Aren't pictures enough for it to work? Even if not, can't he simply call enemy leaders to 'parlay' with them before battle so he has something to work with, assuming he didn't saw everyone important to matter while Robert was alive.Napoleon the Clown wrote:Though he'd be unable to do shit about people he'd ever met. If he'd never seen the person's face, he can't meet one of the requirements of the Death Note. Meaning he'd probably wind up getting his face melted off by a dragon, assuming someone else didn't kill him before that.
But yeah, he probably isn't smart enough to use it well.
Would he think of killing Tyrion and Varys in time though?Mr Bean wrote:Tywin Lannister takes a Death Note from Joffrey, and peace ruled over the land forever.
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No need, Tywin finding out about the name and face restriction will have a great tournament and invite all of his friends, being humble as heck, get everyone's faces memorized. Then they will quietly die of disease, heart attack and suicide. But not before any troublesome members of the free cities die as well.Irbis wrote:Would he think of killing Tyrion and Varys in time though?Mr Bean wrote:Tywin Lannister takes a Death Note from Joffrey, and peace ruled over the land forever.
I wonder, is a painting good enough for the death note?
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If you didn't read ADwD, let me just say Tywin not being completely paranoid and killing everyone he knows in capital city would have backfired pretty spectacularly for him, note or no note.But not before any troublesome members of the free cities die as well.
By canon, tiny bad photo prints in black and white newspapers sufficed, so...Mr Bean wrote:I wonder, is a painting good enough for the death note?
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As I understand it, drawings and paintings are not good enough. I believe at one point, the Japanese team had sketches of Near and Mello, yet Light did not consider making use of them.
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Wasn't the issue the sketches were over 10 years old thus useless?Bernkastel wrote:As I understand it, drawings and paintings are not good enough. I believe at one point, the Japanese team had sketches of Near and Mello, yet Light did not consider making use of them.
Read that so long ago I don't remember, but Light had some obstacle in killing Mello, thus he had to beg his father to write the name. It was either sketch being bad or sudden Kira kill on Mello being too suspicious so L needed a scapegoat to do it (his father, later Takada).
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The obstacles were that like L they used fake names. Or at least he had every good reason to expect they did. You need both a picture and the real name of someone in order for the note to be useful. And if you will recall, a huge part of the plot arc for the first part of the anime is Light trying to get to L's real name.
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Okay.
So, considering that Misa was capable of using photos as a way of getting real names via the Shinigami eyes, then presuming paintings are good enough means that Joffrey will have the ability to kill anyone so long as he has an reasonably accurate drawing or painting of them. Is this correct?
So, considering that Misa was capable of using photos as a way of getting real names via the Shinigami eyes, then presuming paintings are good enough means that Joffrey will have the ability to kill anyone so long as he has an reasonably accurate drawing or painting of them. Is this correct?
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That depends on how accurate they are I guess. There is no way to tell if photos only work because they are as close to perfectly accurate as you can get.
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I've checked something. The point at which Light obtained the sketches was both before suspicion was put back on him and he still had Misa and her Shinigami eyes readily available. If something like a sketch is good enough, then there's the question of why Light didn't consider photocopying/scanning them and have Misa use the copies/scans to kill them.
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