New Batman Suit Revealed/Teased

[Napoleon the Clown]

Actually from what I understand making the suit knifeproof is actually harder than making it bulletproof, at least against handguns, because kevlar is a weave and will stop bullets okay enough (if not to the 'wearer can blithely ignore point-plank gunfire' extent often depicted in the media) but will let a blade slip in between the fibres.

And who said anything against batsuits incorporating armour? I 'love' batsuits incorporating armour. My only problem with those suits is DC won't let me wear them all the time.

I never said knifeproof, just resistant enough to make it harder to get something important. Yeah, kevlar is way less effective against knives. It's also pretty heavy. Properly treated leather is of some help against bullets but more help against knives. There's a reason that, historically speaking, leather armor was a thing. A good solid blow would probably still get through, but it could take a glancing blow or one that doesn't have quite enough power behind it and make it into something that'll simply bleed rather than reach something that will bleed more. Mostly what I would think of is tough leather (or similar) along the torso and maybe just padding around the limbs to give them some protection without too much extra weight.

And yeah, even if he's wearing something that'll stop the bullet from going into him doesn't mean it'll not hurt like hell and possibly take him out of a fight.



Either way, the idea of Batman running around in spandex to fight crime is just absurd. Only reason I mentioned the idea is I've seen people elsewhere crabbing about how "dumb" it is to have Bats where some form of armor. Because apparently he can dodge every knife that's en route to his kidneys.

[SCRawl]

Either way, the idea of Batman running around in spandex to fight crime is just absurd. Only reason I mentioned the idea is I've seen people elsewhere crabbing about how "dumb" it is to have Bats where some form of armor. Because apparently he can dodge every knife that's en route to his kidneys.

There's a panel in TDKR where Bruce is speaking with Gordon on the phone, getting some massage treatment from Alfred after his first night fighting as Batman in 15 years. After this conversation, Alfred retrieves the costume from the washing machine and declares that he'll have to wear it wet. This doesn't sound like body armour to me.

I know that there's good reason for a guy with Bruce Wayne's night job to wear some form of protection, but there is some evidence that he doesn't always do so.

[Crazedwraith]

DKR is also the comic book that explicitly show in the same issue that Batman does wear armour under that costume even if its not integrated into it. Could just be inserts, Alfred takes out before washing it.

[jwl]

I don't really understand why there are people so opposed to a batsuit that incorporates armor. Dude goes up against people with knives and generally only has his fists. If someone wants to stick a knife in you it's best to have something making that harder. It doesn't take a ton of armor to make it harder to get a knife in deep enough that it can save your ass. Hell, decent leather can make a big difference in how easy it is to hurt you.

Now, having him run around in something that'll stop a bullet consistently is pushing it some, simply because of weight. But something that will offer protection against knives is just smart.

I have no problem with batman wearing armour. I just don't like it looking like armour. I'd prefer batman to have some kind of high-tech material which can stop bullets etc. but is still essentially a skintight suit. He's batman, he can do that. Two reasons: I don't like how it looks, and if batman adds muscle marks to the outside of his armour it just makes him seem really vain.

[Batman]

Agreed on the fake muscle, hence why I liked the 'Returns' suit better than the 'Batman' one. But while I've had my problems with the movie suits, them looking like body armour was never the problem. I'd have to be incredibly stupid not to wear body armour given my working environment (I'm incredibly stupid anyway because I apparently don't most of the time but you know what I mean) and I have no problem with it looking like body armour.

[Tsyroc]

Agreed on the fake muscle, hence why I liked the 'Returns' suit better than the 'Batman' one. But while I've had my problems with the movie suits, them looking like body armour was never the problem. I'd have to be incredibly stupid not to wear body armour given my working environment (I'm incredibly stupid anyway because I apparently don't most of the time but you know what I mean) and I have no problem with it looking like body armour.

For a long time it seemed like you were much more the detective that occasionally had to take a guy out, usually from a distance or the shadows. Now they have you being super bad ass hand to hand fighter taking on groups of guys at a time. No matter how good you are you better have some sort of protection if you are going to keep doing it for very long. Not to mention all the guys who like to shoot at you with guns these days. That was one of the things I liked about the Bale movies. His Batman had protection and still got f'd up on a regular basis and in the long term.

I think some of the comics had your cape and cowl being fairly protective while the rest of your suit was more like something a gymnast would wear in order to allow the maximum freedom of movement. Of course, acrobatics with that cowl and cape must be difficult.

I'm okay with how the Affleck suit looks. He looks like a big buff dude, you probably don't want to mess with, in some sort of woven protective suit. The Batman suit was probably kind of going for that but ended up looking more like a molded muscle suit than what Affleck is wearing.

[Batman]

'Now' in this context meaning 'since the 1980s at the latest'.

[Tsyroc]

'Now' in this context meaning 'since the 1980s at the latest'.

Pretty much. Although I do remember more of the books in the 80s being about the detective side of things.

Personally, I always thought the Timverse cartoons always had the best balance between Batman the bad ass, the detective, and well prepared smart guy.

[Batman]

There's a reason I used to hide in the guy's drawer

[Bob the Gunslinger]

So, if Bruce Wayne is that bulked out, how is his identity a secret one?

[LaCroix]

Because he isn't. Adding a lot of "fake muscle" padding/armor to your suit will have the convenient effect of being able to say "Me? Come on -just take a look at me and then at him! He's TWICE my size!"

[SCRawl]

So, if Bruce Wayne is that bulked out, how is his identity a secret one?

Referring to comics Batman, he really is that absurdly muscular. As for how he manages to keep his secret identity, well, having lots of muscle mass doesn't mean that you're a masked vigilante. I recall a few moments (when being examined by a physician who wasn't in on the secret) that he had quite a lot of scar tissue and healed fractures (which were passed off as an obsession with extreme sports, I think). For the rest, he has an excellent tailor. And he doesn't take his shirt off in public.

[Iroscato]

Man of Steel 2 officially titled 'Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice'.
It's a bit unwieldy, but certainly sets the tone. WB also released the finalised logo for the movie.
http://i.imgur.com/uRUJzQY.jpg
Thoughts?

[RogueIce]

Do they really have to do the cliché "heroes fight but then make up to fight greater evil" plot? Geez.

Also they pretty much stole the Superman/Batman World's Finest comic logo.

[Iroscato]

Do they really have to do the cliché "heroes fight but then make up to fight greater evil" plot? Geez.

Also they pretty much stole the Superman/Batman World's Finest comic logo.

Well...essentially they ARE adapting World's Finest, or at least using many elements from it, as well as The Dark Knight Returns. Makes sense to use a version of that logo as it perfectly represents the setup of the film.

[Lord Revan]

So, if Bruce Wayne is that bulked out, how is his identity a secret one?

Referring to comics Batman, he really is that absurdly muscular. As for how he manages to keep his secret identity, well, having lots of muscle mass doesn't mean that you're a masked vigilante. I recall a few moments (when being examined by a physician who wasn't in on the secret) that he had quite a lot of scar tissue and healed fractures (which were passed off as an obsession with extreme sports, I think). For the rest, he has an excellent tailor. And he doesn't take his shirt off in public.

it also helps that IIRC few people get a good look at Batman and besides being tall and bulky isn't that destinctive looking and he acts differently when in the Bruce Wayne persona so people might not make the connection between 2 big guys that sort of look similar but act nothing like each other.

[Batman]

Tall and bulky covers about half the current WWE roster (and probably a goodly subset of the Gotham criminal population). I'd say the most risky telltale would be my voice, and I'm not sure that's all that bad either. Nevermind electronics already available, I'm not sure Bale's raspy antics from the trilogy wouldn't suffice. We can tell that Bruce Wayne's and Batman's voice are the same, because we already know they are the same person going in. I don't think somebody who doesn't (and likely never has met Bruce Wayne in person to begin with) is going to make that connection.
Modern facial recognition software may be a problem since I don't wear a full-face mask but without knowing how good the software available in the DCU is (because in the real world, it's, um, yea, no can do) that's essentially unanswerable.

[Napoleon the Clown]

So, if Bruce Wayne is that bulked out, how is his identity a secret one?

You'd be amazed how much a properly tailored suit will hide just what kind of physique a person has. Sure, people would be able to look at Bruce Wayne and go "Dude's pretty broad in the shoulders and chest..." but they wouldn't know that he's goddamn ripped under that $6000 suit.