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 Post subject: My Little Pony : Second Thread PostPosted: 2012-11-10 12:04pm
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I rather enjoyed that. Obviously foreshadowing too.

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 Post subject: Re: My Little Pony PostPosted: 2012-11-10 12:10pm
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I rather enjoyed that. Obviously foreshadowing too.

Sombra was a smoke monster and laughed lots. A bit of a downgrade from NM, Discord and Chrysalis.




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 Post subject: Re: My Little Pony PostPosted: 2012-11-10 12:20pm
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Greatly enjoyed the episodes.

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Sombra was a smoke monster and laughed lots. A bit of a downgrade from NM, Discord and Chrysalis.
The mental invasions, slavery (at some point I thought he said "Crystal Slaves") and anti-teleportation cage were fairly potent. But not quite a reality bender or demigoddess, no.

I'll have to wait for the high quality release to confirm, but was there a symbol on the book Celestia and Luna had at the end?

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 Post subject: Re: My Little Pony PostPosted: 2012-11-10 12:23pm
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This was more about Twilight and her friends than the villian anyway.

And yes, Twilight, we can't wait to see what your destiny is.

Also those songs were good back when I first heard them, but seeing them in the context of the episode added so much to them, especially the Failure Song. And the visuals...God damn they have stepped up their game on the animation. And those backgrounds with Celestia, Luna and Twilight's cutie marks? Yeah, that was awesome.

So much to say, so little time. But I definately give these episodes a combined 10/10. Season 3 looks like it'll be epic for sure.

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The mental invasions, slavery (at some point I thought he said "Crystal Slaves") and anti-teleportation cage were fairly potent. But not quite a reality bender or demigoddess, no.

He did in fact say that.

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I'll have to wait for the high quality release to confirm, but was there a symbol on the book Celestia and Luna had at the end?

Definately something on that book, but I couldn't see what it was.

EDIT: Oh and I totally expect the fanart community to positively explode in the next few days. Can anyone say Crystal Mane 6? :mrgreen:



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 Post subject: Re: My Little Pony PostPosted: 2012-11-10 04:07pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpCcAXyWTH8

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I wonder when twilight will get her wings?



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I loved it. Twilight takes the lead, but it doesn't single her out. I like how they gave lots of stuff to do for the others. I especially liked the interaction between Spike and Twilight.

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Sombra was a smoke monster and laughed lots. A bit of a downgrade from NM, Discord and Chrysalis.


He was formidable enough though. For one, it is clear that he might be somewhat immortal (if for nothing else, he lived over a thousand years). That, and it's one thing to hear what they did and see evidence of it first-hoof from actual ponies that experienced it. Not the kind of villian you'd want to show up on a lazy Saturday night evening certainly.



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 Post subject: Re: My Little Pony PostPosted: 2012-11-10 04:36pm
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And those backgrounds with Celestia, Luna and Twilight's cutie marks? Yeah, that was awesome.

Apparently, I missed that, where was this?

I'll be damned, Cadance and Shining Armor weren't one-off characters. More later.

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 Post subject: Re: My Little Pony PostPosted: 2012-11-10 05:14pm
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[Reveal] Spoiler: Future Ep


Was I the only one to notice these?

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 Post subject: Re: My Little Pony PostPosted: 2012-11-10 05:45pm
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Sombra was a smoke monster and laughed lots. A bit of a downgrade from NM, Discord and Chrysalis.


I think the best way to look at Sombra is just that. A monster, not a villain. He doesn't have much of a personality or motives. And that's a good thing. Monsters aren't as scary if you know too much about them.

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Ralin wrote:
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Sombra was a smoke monster and laughed lots. A bit of a downgrade from NM, Discord and Chrysalis.

I think the best way to look at Sombra is just that. A monster, not a villain. He doesn't have much of a personality or motives. And that's a good thing. Monsters aren't as scary if you know too much about them.


I get the impression that the villain wasn't characterised to leave more screen time for the Mane6 + royal couple. Which is fine. I thought it was a solid episode with nice visuals although not a high point of the series.



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Starglider wrote:
Ralin wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:
Sombra was a smoke monster and laughed lots. A bit of a downgrade from NM, Discord and Chrysalis.

I think the best way to look at Sombra is just that. A monster, not a villain. He doesn't have much of a personality or motives. And that's a good thing. Monsters aren't as scary if you know too much about them.


I get the impression that the villain wasn't characterised to leave more screen time for the Mane6 + royal couple. Which is fine. I thought it was a solid episode with nice visuals although not a high point of the series.

Fine then they could have gone all the way and removed all of his lines save the slave line. Remove the laughs and make him a pure force. For sound effects how about something like The Evil dead chase effects. Make Sombra the sound of wind and crackling rocks and shattering crystal. Keep the eyes and the face but have it only smile not laugh until he's fully back. 90% of his sound effects was his laugh over and over again. If you want to play up the menace (And don't say kids show) play up the minimalism.




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 Post subject: My Little Pony: Second Thread PostPosted: 2012-11-10 08:00pm
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I meant to do this before the Season Premiere, but I forgot :(
I'm going to try to post all of today's posts over to this one, since we have topped 50 pages in the original thread


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[Reveal] Spoiler: Future Ep


Was I the only one to notice these?

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I saw it, but I din't notice that they have No Cutie Marks, and are still the same size as Celestia

Also what was seen multiple times in the HUB commercial breaks: TOO MANY PINKIE PIES!



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 Post subject: Re: My Little Pony : Second Thread PostPosted: 2012-11-10 08:49pm
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Here I thought it was Gak. :P

I wonder whether they are just foreign dignitaries or something. Interesting how they may be another pony variant.



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 Post subject: Re: My Little Pony : Second Thread PostPosted: 2012-11-10 10:16pm
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The combination of spoilers, promotional materials, and foreshadowing from this episode is painting a very interesting picture of the season to come. Exciting!

Re: Sombra, he may not have had much development, but at least he'd read the Evil Overlord's Handbook.

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 Post subject: Re: My Little Pony PostPosted: 2012-11-11 09:55am
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Apparently, I missed that, where was this?

It's at the very end of Twilight's briefing with Celestia, after she leaves the throne room and looks back to see Celestia and Luna standing behind her. Starts about 5:16 on the YouTube link madd0ct0r posted.

Also low-res screenshots because I'm lazy:

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So yeah I'd say that it's important enough to have the cutie mark backgrounds like this, and we know Twilight has a destiny and such. I wonder if the fact that Twi's CM is a little more difficult to see is a visual clue that her destiny is still very much up in the air?

Also, I just loved the shading and lighting on Twilight right after the door closed:

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Like I said earlier, the animators are definately stepping up their game.

And finally, a shot of the book Luna brought out at the very end:

[Reveal] Spoiler: Possible Season 3 Arc Spoilers
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Ah, and others have noted that when Sombra was defeated, they did make sure to show us that his horn actually survived. I'm pretty sure that was very intentional on their part and it wouldn't surprise me at all if this isn't the last we've seen of him or his influence.

[Reveal] Spoiler: Later Season 3 Spoilers
Actually there's a theory that a leaked model of Trixie is wearing an amulet that looks like it could be from Sombra, and this is how she can defeat Twilight.



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 Post subject: Re: My Little Pony PostPosted: 2012-11-11 02:53pm
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And finally, a shot of the book Luna brought out at the very end:

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That looks like a star and a swirly symbol to me, Star Swirl the Bearded?

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 Post subject: Re: My Little Pony PostPosted: 2012-11-11 03:00pm
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That looks like a star and a swirly symbol to me, Star Swirl the Bearded?

Unless it's the Black Book but I don't think they go there. FoE gets a nod or two this season but I don't think that.




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 Post subject: Re: My Little Pony : Second Thread PostPosted: 2012-11-12 03:38am
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Guys guys...

Princess Cadance's cutie mark is a crystal heart.

Also, it glows for a few seconds after she lands and smashes the fake crystal heart.

Score one for plot continuity.



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Also, amazing music this episode. I'm not talking about the songs, but the background music. The soundtrack for the entire sequence at the climax was perfect, right up there with the end of A Canterlot Wedding.

Obviously Cadance gets the best music.



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Lol. Shining Armour obviously knows his marvel comics. Fastball special on the Crystal Heart!

Pretty unremarkable compared to the other openings though. And I swear Luna's voice changes with every appearance.



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Guys guys...

Princess Cadance's cutie mark is a crystal heart.

Also, it glows for a few seconds after she lands and smashes the fake crystal heart.

Score one for plot continuity.

When she flew overhead, the Crystal Ponies cries out "Look! The Crystal Princess!"



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Which might mean something, like Cadance being heir of previous ruler or (being alicorn) looking like her, or might as well be generic title given to the pony who handles crystal heart. We don't know, sadly.

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Given that she is a Princess by title, has the heart as a cutie mark (even though appearently the Crystal Empire was gone beforehand), I'd wager that she's Crystal Royalty.

Has anyone made a video counting how many times the word "crystal" is said in the two episodes?



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