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Was the cherry sorting scene a reference to I Love Lucy?
Pinkie Pie= illegal under the new Equestrian Articles of War
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lordofchange13 wrote:Was the cherry sorting scene a reference to I Love Lucy?
Pinkie Pie= illegal under the new Equestrian Articles of War
I'm pretty sure it was.
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Noting as I watch:

Derpy speaks! I expected him to be forever a silent, background, comedy character! I am sure that a lot of fans are going to be upset about her now.

Physics Dash, physics! You are not Superman (or Supermare).

Oh dear, this is going to be about losing, isn't it? D: With all this build-up to her winning.

Poor postman pony... oh dear, how a good heart Pinkie Pie has. :D

Ponies need help with reading comprehension. "Not coming back to Ponyville" =/= "never coming back".

Cameras in Equastria : confirmed. Odd that they are black&White though.

Why is Carrottop in Canterlot (I think that is Canterlot)?

Interesting. Canterlot looks like it may look at the texas-desert-type area that was in the Barrel-whatever episode. Raises questions about climate, but best not to dwell on that.

Dear God, I see too many fanfics/fanart. For a moment I couldn't help but imagine that Applejack gave herself to a western-stlye bordello.

Dear God, Pinkie should be a professional interrogator.

Oh lol, "YOU PINKIE PROMISED!"

Cart chases! Almost good as car chases! Even though one of them can fly very fast....

Bunny! :D

Wow, the cart pullers are so annoyed that they forgot to ask for payment.

PILE-UP HUG!

Poor Rarity.

Conclusion: A pretty fun episode, if a bit predictable about AJ's "secret". But that's expectable and this was really about the gags.
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Also, Gun's are now exist for sure in Equastria
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lordofchange13 wrote:Also, Gun's are now exist for sure in Equastria
I must have missed that part...

I liked the gag where AJ thought she lost them with the train, only for RD and Fluttershy to remind her that, well, they're pegasi. :D

Also, poor Rarity. This is the second time she's gotten Pinkie Pwned. And it was also Rainbow Dash's fault both times as well (though to be fair, Dashie was "broken" the first time). Now I want to see how Rarity is going to make RD pay for it. :twisted:

And yep, "Derpy" (as actual name or just nickname) is now officially canon. Internet = validated.

I liked the episode. Yeah, I saw where it was going with her "secret" by the end of the cold open, but that didn't detract from it. I can see where she was coming from (most dependable pony just failed and she couldn't bring herself to face that) and I liked the fact she was still going to find a way to send the money regardless. Rings true to her character.

Also, Pinkie is amusing. "I didn't break your promise on a technicality" and she's totally cool with that. :D Nice that the show itself (through the characters) acknowledges that she can be rather grating at times. They kinda did that with RD during the Griffin Brush-Off, and ramped it up to 11 here. I felt sorry for Applejack, I really did.

And technically, Zixinus, Derpy has spoken before. Remember muffins? :razz:
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Okay, where was the gun thing mentioned?

Oh, and RougeIce: when was this? I don't recall.
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Derpy said 'muffins' waaaay back in applebuck season, when the baked bads were being offered to everypony.

Man, that Derpy scene went on way too long. It felt like it was pandering to the bronies too much.

Overall this was a meh episode for me. Not as bad as Mysterious Mare Do Well, but still just meh.
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Zixinus wrote:Okay, where was the gun thing mentioned?

Oh, and RougeIce: when was this? I don't recall.
It was when Rainbow said "Now we have to pull out the big guns", right before they released the abominable Pinkie on Applejack. I can not think of any other plausible way to explain her use of that term

She said "Muffins" back in season one.
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Hmm. A working steam engine instead of horse drawn trains, is that first?

Predictable episode is predictable. And for AJ's first episode in a long time it kinda does her a disservice. It would be better if she hadn't also acted like she was guaranteed to come in first. And everyone else was piling the pressure on. She could have made it clear that if she got any prize money it'd help the town roof.

Stil prdie cometh before a fall. It seems from the number of ribbons talk that AJ is a very good all rounder pony but was surpassed at every turn by ponys specialising in one event. Apple Jack of all trades; master of none.

And Derby's scene? Not a fan. Pointless pandering to the fanon. Guess no-one can have cross eyes without being retarded is that it show?
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Crazedwraith wrote:Hmm. A working steam engine instead of horse drawn trains, is that first?
No, a steam engine had appeared in the Christmas episode.
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Word of God is that they are the same pony.
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I have to admit, I actually did not like this one all that much...

From the first 5min I felt like I could predict the entire show. And The Derpy bit did seem over the top Fan Pandering. And I have to say I am a bit disappointed they went with "Retard-O" Derpy. I mean, did she have to talk like, well, stupid?

I mean, the premise is one pony carelessly destroys townhall and only Applejack can get money to repair it? Really?
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I liked the episode, though not quite as much as I thought I would when I read the description. Something about Derpy's disaster magnetism and Honest AJ lying because she couldn't fix Derpy's mess didn't sit all that well.

And Pinkie Pie's definitely a cruel and unusual punishment and her use should be banned.
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Not only that, but look at it this way.

A random Pony causes serious damage to a Government building, and said government not does NOT punish the pony in question, but asks upon a Private Citizen, one who had nothing to do with the incident; NOT the government itself, to provide funds for repairs?

Sounds very fishy to me.
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To those crying foul over Derpy having fantasy equine equivelant of Downs Syndrome, are you offended by this or just being offended on behalf of someone else?

The production team obviously sat down over that one and it's likely they said 'should we make the character a retard' at some point. Pandering to the bronies? Of course it was. They interpreted the the massive tide of the fandom as they saw it, and this is always going to be a gamble seeing as everyone's expectations are going to be different, from subtle to wildly. A large chunk of the adult fanbase memes it up that a pony is functionally and mentally impaired from day one, what else were they supposed to think?
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The episode was an average one in my mind. Pinkie was hilarious which made up for the somewhat lacking conflict. I personally thought the Derpy bit was meh, not what I would have done since I always thought the "Derpy is mentally challenged" meme was idiotic, but hardly rage inducing.
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This episode had a plot that I guess is of descent quality for the average Saturday morning cartoon but was far below the standars that I am use to for the show; What the episode lacked in basic plot it made up in plane character humor.
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Crossroads Inc. wrote:Not only that, but look at it this way.

A random Pony causes serious damage to a Government building, and said government not does NOT punish the pony in question, but asks upon a Private Citizen, one who had nothing to do with the incident; NOT the government itself, to provide funds for repairs?

Sounds very fishy to me.
Yeah, exactly. The whole thing would've been improved if it wasn't Derpy who destroyed everything, but a random earthquake or a tornado or even a rampaging dragon. Add the mayor lamenting about how all the shit happening lately have drained the natural disasters budget, and it's all set.

Or, even better, if it was somehow Dash herself who tore up the building, and she was held responsible for the damages but she couldn't pony up the cash, making her good and dependable friend AJ would step up and offer to pay with the prize money she would earn. And as AJ would feel she failed her friend by not winning, she'd be more justified in running away and avoiding them and lying and all that jazz.
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Crossroads Inc. wrote:Not only that, but look at it this way.

A random Pony causes serious damage to a Government building, and said government not does NOT punish the pony in question, but asks upon a Private Citizen, one who had nothing to do with the incident; NOT the government itself, to provide funds for repairs?
I think Applejack just volunteered to do this for reasons of being a good citizen and all.

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Zor wrote:
Crossroads Inc. wrote:Not only that, but look at it this way.

A random Pony causes serious damage to a Government building, and said government not does NOT punish the pony in question, but asks upon a Private Citizen, one who had nothing to do with the incident; NOT the government itself, to provide funds for repairs?
I think Applejack just volunteered to do this for reasons of being a good citizen and all.

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That was my take on it as well. I'll need to rewatch, but IIRC it was AJ who brought up donating the prize money, and the Mayor was clearly overjoyed by the prospect.

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Yeah. You bunch of jerks.

EDIT:

So just saw this on SpaceBattles:
ObssesedNuker on SpaceBattles.com wrote:For much of this episode, I was conflicted. When Applejack and her friends reunited in Dodge Center, I was extremely torn between loving this episode and hating it. Loving it because it is obviously a very well done episode and even actually had me guessing at Applejack's reason. Hate it because it went massively OOC with Applejack and the whole Element of Harmony deal. Applejack wasn't just being loose with the truth, she was lying and was lying convincingly... or would have been if it weren't for the fact that her friends knew her. Even after she revealed her reasons, I was still trying to decide whether to utterly hate or utterly adore this episode.

It was during the narration of Applejack's letter that it clicked with me...

She didn't want to dissappoint Ponyville. She saw all of the expectations heaped upon her and when she thought she didn't meet them, she made her decision. But when her friends showed up, that added to the stress and she broke... perhaps the best way for me to sum it up is Applejack naturaly discorded herself.

And that settled things for me: this is now my favorite episode. Period.
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EDIT2: Perhaps not my favorite episode period (how could I ever displace you "Luna Eclipsed"? :luv: ) but it's up there.
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Man, the SB crew is just saying it better than I can tonight.
Darth Invictus on SpaceBattles.com wrote:It was very true to Applejack, Rainbow Dash has an ego which won't let her loose or admit defeat, as the Iron pony contest and Mare-Do-Well showed, she has to win for herself. In contrast Applejack is stubborn and proud, she made a promise, she couldn't face breaking it and letting down people who'd put their trust in her, couldn't face her family or Applebloom after loosing and shattering her sisters image of her, she would've stayed in Dodge until she got the money, or until Big Mac or the Mane Six went to find her, hogtied her and dragged her back themselves. For someone so devoted to her family and who cares so much about their view of her, gaining anything less than first after promising to get it would be unthinkable
Now, to be fair to myself, this was also my original take on it. But this fellow just said it better than I managed previously.
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Narkis wrote:
Crossroads Inc. wrote:Not only that, but look at it this way.

A random Pony causes serious damage to a Government building, and said government not does NOT punish the pony in question, but asks upon a Private Citizen, one who had nothing to do with the incident; NOT the government itself, to provide funds for repairs?

Sounds very fishy to me.
Yeah, exactly. The whole thing would've been improved if it wasn't Derpy who destroyed everything, but a random earthquake or a tornado or even a rampaging dragon. Add the mayor lamenting about how all the shit happening lately have drained the natural disasters budget, and it's all set.

Or, even better, if it was somehow Dash herself who tore up the building, and she was held responsible for the damages but she couldn't pony up the cash, making her good and dependable friend AJ would step up and offer to pay with the prize money she would earn. And as AJ would feel she failed her friend by not winning, she'd be more justified in running away and avoiding them and lying and all that jazz.
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They would barely need to make a change to the show for it to have been far more believable and less Fan silly. I mean, all Dash would have needed to do was...
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Booom! There you are! Establishing the exact same parameters but in a way that makes the over all "motive" more real. And having Mayor Mare saying one or two comments about past disasters draining the budget, or AJ volunteering to pay for things, would have made all the difference in the world.
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AJ voluteered the prize money, see 3:00 in the above linked video. Honestly, I'm not bothered by Derpy. It was used for purely comedic purposes and fits with what we've seen of her character previously. I certainly didn't see anyone complaining about Twilight acting super obsessive and needing to keep to her routine in Lesson Zero being offensive to those with OCD. Hell, I have OCD and could relate to the situation in general, I just understand they turned the dial up to 11 for comedic purposes in Lesson Zero.
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Thought the episode was great. I haven't had much of anything to say about the last few episodes, because I enjoyed them all, had no complaints about them and just couldn't think of anything to talk about.

I must be really dense though, as I had no idea what AJ's secret was. I honestly had no clue why she refused to return home. Maybe I'm just having a slow day.

As far as Derpy goes, I have no opinion one way or the other. I really don't understand the massive fan appeal that surrounds the background ponies like Derpy. The mane 6 are my favourite characters in the show, and outside of certain high profile ponies (like Celestia and Luna) I don't really care about the secondary characters much. I've never got why Derpy was so popular. Her scene in this episode didn't make me angry, upset or jumping for joy. It was just a part of the episode, no big deal, no different from that poor colt whose birthday everypony forgot.

Gotta agree with Rarity though - Rainbow 'Never leave a friend hanging' Dash needs a kick up the behind for leaving two of her best friends stranded in the desert. Comedy notwithstanding, season 2 has really made me like RD a lot less than I used to. Also, I kinda miss Twilight being more central to the show like she was in season 1. I felt like I was seeing MLP from her POV, whereas now there are entire episodes where she either doesn't show up or has five seconds of screen time. Maybe that's just me.
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