Stormbringer wrote:I'm sure they cornered them in a dark back alley in the ghetto to ask them kindly for a donation for their church group's fund for poor starving orphans and maybe ask Laurie to go a a-courting on Friday night. Yeah, I'm sure that's what it was.
It's pathetically obvious from their demeanor and actions that they were at best going to commit armed robbery and it's hardly impossible to think that, being armed, that they didn't have murder and rape in their plans as well. They didn't attack a Cub Scout troup here, they were attacked by an obvious street gang with obviously unsavory motives. Why exactly give the would be murderer's such a benefit of the doubt?
LOL, which is why it works dramatically that they're casual murderers who never even mention it again and yet revile other, similar murderers and maniacs. Your hilariuos attempt to paint it as 'kill them all or get murdered' is great, though.
Because only in "comic" books and fucking fairyland do you stand off a gang of probably murderous attackers with out maiming and probably killing. Why in a movie trying to emphasize some realism in the caped crime fighter/super hero genre should we pretend savage beatings of criminals by highly trained vigilantes should be bloodless. If anything, it makes a hello of a lot of sense in showing exactly why the public turned against these heroes!
As for why they get back into crime fighting, it's painfully obvious that both of them are dysfunctional as all hell. I wasn't aware that Dan or Laurie were supposed to be more mentally adjusted or right. Both Moore and Snyder have said that none of the characters are meant to be clearly in the right and none of meant to be well adjusted. It does change the complexion of it but not really the motivation. Neither one of them is capable of doing much else than being a masked vigilante and the attack still remains as a potential catalyst for them to take it up again.
Savage beatings != multiple murder. They kicked the shit out of them in the book - they killed them casually and in outrageous ways in the movie. Poor Comedian - he only kills POLITICIANS and REPORTERS!
Are you fucking kidding me? The Comedian was, at best, blasting rubber bullets into protesters at close range; personally I'm not even sure he was actually using rubber bullets. He was also lobbing gas grenades into people at equally short range. Both acts are incredibly lethal and police are trained to avoid for just that reason. He certainly could have killed and quite probably did so. If you're assuming the gang all died at Dan and Laurie's hands, it hardly seems like the Comedians rampage there should be assumed to have been bloodless. And that's leaving aside things like Vietnam where he murdered a woman pregnant with his child. Or the other murders he committed. Sure, the Comedian is a great guy because he maybe didn't kill some people even though he probably did when he was supposed to be keeping the peace.
This is what's ironic; the Comedian's brutality towards protesters is supposed to be outrageous and evil, but he WAS LESS BRUTAL THAN DREIBERG. It's arguable that he knew he was in no danger from largely unarmed protesters with a laser hovership behind him, but he didn't kill anyone and simply acted with typical gross disregard for public safety. To be consistent he should have at least snapped A FEW protestor's necks, to keep the Comedian's bodycount higher than Dreibergs!
As for Rorschach, did you miss the part where he brutally murdered the masochist that hounded the Watchmen, in all probability because of his extreme sex-phobias and insane personality. Or the fact that he's in general portrayed as killing with out restraint and enjoying it immensely. Yeah, that's clearly no different than killing would be murderers.
You mean in that scene where Snyder makes it plainly obvious the kidnapper is guilty, has him confess, and then has Kovacs just chop him up instead of leaving it unclear and having Kovacs burn him alive and watch as his own humanity burns away because now he is the judge?
It's actually pretty sad that you're so incapable of seeing how the wide distinction between the characters in the book is almost non-existent in the confused movie. Kovacs kills people because he's a loon; Dreiberg kills people with similar brutality and then forgets about it. Character breakage aside, this also wastes screen time that should have been used to make other scenes (like the totally flat Blake Is My Father scene) actually work. Turns out Snyder's a hack?
But it's okay because we're wanking to American justifiable homicide instead of looking at the characters.