Legend of Korra "The Revelation" Talkback (Spoilers)

[JME2]

Anyone surprised by how much Korra and the Ferrets suck at fighting though? The Equalists owned them.

After 3 seasons of the Gaang pwning Fire Nation redshirts and mooks, it's actually refreshing to see the minions kicking the heroes' asses.

[Mr Bean]

Yeah, so this show is awesome. Anyone surprised by how much Korra and the Ferrets suck at fighting though? The Equalists owned them.

I disagree remember how Korra took down three fire benders at once as well as three of the Triple Threat Triad punks one by one easily. She excels at fighting or at least fighting benders so when she suddenly had to go up against Amon's Spec-ops ninjas she got throw because they were not fighting like how she expected them too. As well I love that fight because it's such a nice contrast from season 1 when Katara on accident locks up three of the faceless fire benders while Aang the pacifist breezes through a dozen of them knowing only airbending.

Think about it this way based on what we've seen so far of the Chi-blocking Ninjas if Aang had to fight ten fire benders or just one Chi-Ninja which fight would be tougher for him? Based on what we've seen so far the basic Amon Ninja would wreck his shit. I look forward to what will be coming in this series because if nothing else I wonder if the ninjas will suffer villain decay so even Mako is fighting and beating four at once or if it's still an even fight right up until the end of the series.

[LadyTevar]

The minions are used to facing Benders, and used their own fighting techniques mixed with Chi-blocking. A lot of their fighting was dodging or blocking Korra and Mako's attacks until they could get a good shot at arms and legs for Chi-blocking.

[mr friendly guy]

Benders could theoretically counteract the Equalist ninjas by doing what Aang did against Ozai. Surround themselves with their element. The Equalist now has to push against that element, which would slow them down (if air or water), and burn them if its fire.

[bilateralrope]

Chi blocking seems to rely on hitting specific points on the body. Could those points be sufficiently protected with padding/armor to prevent chi blocking without hindering mobility ?

[Haruko]

The first time Katara faced Ty Lee it did not go so well either. Ty Lee's abilities so shocked Katara that in the episode The Drill we have her trying to trap Ty Lee inside the drill, freaked out over the prospect of allowing Ty Lee an opportunity to even get close.

The Fire Nation was a nation, but the Equalists are a revolutionary movement that I suspect does not have the equivalent manpower and capacity as one of the Four Nations.

Better to think of those ninja guys like Ty Lee and Mai multiplied, rather than the equivalent of regular Fire Nation soldiers.

[Mr Bean]

Better to think of those ninja guys like Ty Lee and Mai multiplied, rather than the equivalent of regular Fire Nation soldiers.

To paraphrase, How many divisions does the Avatar have at her command?
Point is unless the equalists have lower level mooks every time she tangles with them she's two openings away from being unable to bend and it's off to Amon to take her bending away. The hordes of faceless baddies she has to fight are Ty Lee level by default. Amon has only the best after all because he's secretly...

Bumi! Or possibly the old Fire Lord Ozai! Or some third as yet unmet person
Seriously been reading and that's the three most popular fandom theories is that Amon is secretly Bumi one of the Avatar's sons taught energy-bending by his father because he lacked air-bending which is not nearly as interesting as Amon being an undying Fire Lord Ozai who knows the trick as having had it done to him once or and as yet unknown third party we have yet to meet.

[Chirios]

Better to think of those ninja guys like Ty Lee and Mai multiplied, rather than the equivalent of regular Fire Nation soldiers.

To paraphrase, How many divisions does the Avatar have at her command?
Point is unless the equalists have lower level mooks every time she tangles with them she's two openings away from being unable to bend and it's off to Amon to take her bending away. The hordes of faceless baddies she has to fight are Ty Lee level by default. Amon has only the best after all because he's secretly...

Bumi! Or possibly the old Fire Lord Ozai! Or some third as yet unmet person
Seriously been reading and that's the three most popular fandom theories is that Amon is secretly Bumi one of the Avatar's sons taught energy-bending by his father because he lacked air-bending which is not nearly as interesting as Amon being an undying Fire Lord Ozai who knows the trick as having had it done to him once or and as yet unknown third party we have yet to meet.

It can't be Ozai because Mark Hamill isn't the voice actor.

[Themightytom]

It can't be Ozai because Mark Hamill isn't the voice actor.

Then that only leaves

[FaxModem1]

My god, it all makes sense now.


Seriously though, how badly would their society be ruined if no one could bend? How much of their industry and construction relies on bending? Seeing as how they use firebenders for power generation and assorted other tasks. On the other hand, I can understand wanting to take out the Triads, as the non-benders have no defense against them and probably feel like second class citizens.

[JME2]

Seriously though, how badly would their society be ruined if no one could bend? How much of their industry and construction relies on bending? Seeing as how they use firebenders for power generation and assorted other tasks. On the other hand, I can understand wanting to take out the Triads, as the non-benders have no defense against them and probably feel like second class citizens.

I think the 70 years of industrialization will compensate for some aspects. But bending is still a critical part of the world industry and culture. It won't cripple it, but it would hurt it.

[Chirios]

My god, it all makes sense now.


Seriously though, how badly would their society be ruined if no one could bend?

Which, I suppose, is the point. Glorious Revolutions (tm) always sound good, but if you don't plan for the repercussions they always end horribly.

disagree remember how Korra took down three fire benders at once as well as three of the Triple Threat Triad punks one by one easily.

Yeah but those were just random dudes. It's like if Aang took out some Earth nation villagers. They're irrelevant. Far as I can tell Korra < Aang imo. Also Mako and err, Earthbending Brother < Katara and Sokka.

[SilverWingedSeraph]

You're looking at it from the wrong perspective. It's not that Korra and her companions are weaker, it's that the enemies they face are more threatening than the typical Fire Nation soldiers that routinely served as Aang and Co's nameless enemies. The nameless enemies in The Last Airbender were Firebenders of moderate skill at best, for most of the series run. The nameless enemies in The Legend of Korra display a level of skill almost on par with Ty Lee in The Last Airbender, who was able to pose a serious threat to the Gaang.

It's not a case of the protagonists being weaker, but the antagonist's goons being stronger.

[evilsoup]

The protagonists are also weaker, though. Pro-bending is pretty stylised, it's not really suited to actual fighting.

[Zor]

Bringing it up because no-one has yet, but the show's music is awesome. East Asian swing/jazz.

Zor

[JME2]

Bringing it up because no-one has yet, but the show's music is awesome. East Asian swing/jazz.

Zor

Yeah, I'm really glad the Track Team came back to do the sound design/music for the new show. I was grinning from ear-to-ear last weekend at hearing not only the Avatar leitmotif, but the old bending sound effects.

[Teebs]

I'd have thought air-bending, being all about movement and such would be a perfect style to fight the equalist ninjas. I'm not sure Ty Lee ever actually went up against Aang personally.

The way I saw the fighting in the latest episode was that neither Korra nor Mako were that good at fighting. They both had raw power but neither seemed to be able to move anywhere near as well as the top level characters in the original.

Also, how did Mako, apparently a street kid, learn to lightning bend? I thought it was meant to be a really difficult discipline.

[Grumman]

Mako's got more of an excuse for losing to the chi blockers than Korra does. He's a competitor in a sport where you're not allowed to get up close and personal, so it's only natural that he'd be more practiced at long range combat than against non-bender martial artists.

[Bright]

Is anyone curious what Asami looks like?

The next episode has apparently leaked. The person who'd gotten hold of it has released a few images, but probably won't let anything bigger go. The fandom is currently in complete uproar due to implications of Mako being smitten with Asami (like, very obviously).

[evilsoup]

Well psuedo-1920s setting... from the look of her, I'm going to guess she'll be a sort of femme fatale.

[Bright]

Actually, Asami's description calls her very polite, and the leaked scene seems to involve her sweetly apologizing to Mako for running him over with her scooter.

Personally, I'm hoping she's secretly an Equalist.

[Bright]

Oh yeah. And episode 4 leaked.

Nick really needs to get better security for their homepage. Just like with episode 1, someone nabbed it because it was uploaded and hidden there. Or they could just have waited until the airdate to put it up...

[Chirios]

Oh yeah. And episode 4 leaked.

Nick really needs to get better security for their homepage. Just like with episode 1, someone nabbed it because it was uploaded and hidden there. Or they could just have waited until the airdate to put it up...

The same happened with the second episode of GoT. Why they upload the videos early I'll never know.

[avatarxprime]

Seriously though, how badly would their society be ruined if no one could bend? How much of their industry and construction relies on bending? Seeing as how they use firebenders for power generation and assorted other tasks. On the other hand, I can understand wanting to take out the Triads, as the non-benders have no defense against them and probably feel like second class citizens.

I think the 70 years of industrialization will compensate for some aspects. But bending is still a critical part of the world industry and culture. It won't cripple it, but it would hurt it.

The Airship industry might collapse, I think that those depend on benders, but they have progressed past steam punk at this point, they're actually using gasoline, see the underlined part.

Also, the part I put a box around, the Cabbage Man's legacy continues indeed.