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Shroom Man 777 wrote:I think those are flamethrowers on his bike.
So do you reckon they are giving Captain America the Dark Knight treatment ? Complete with a armed motor bike ? 8)
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I think the guy's killed a crapload of people, really. I mean, in the comics. I don't see him having a no-kill code, personally. I mean, he hangs out with Wolverine who goes snikt-bub, and the Punisher. I don't think he gets (or needs) any TDK treatment.
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Nah I mean aesthetically. The comic look vs gritty, realistic look.
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Well, I am sure quite a few comics also have gritty looks. A few of them even had him ridiculing France. :P

A lot of comics have even grittier Batmans than TDK. Like where he became a vampire and ate Poison Ivy's breasts and shit.
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:
A lot of comics have even grittier Batmans than TDK. Like where he became a vampire and ate Poison Ivy's breasts and shit.
Seriously?

When did DC let you into the writer's chair Shroom?
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Sarevok wrote:A guy in a funny costume beating up infantry does not work anymore in 21st century. A movie is not a cheap 1940s comic book. To take Captain America seriously you need to at least try to make him capable of defeating well armed soldiers.
Again, examples of modern movies where a single guy defeats hordes of enemies are numerous. The fact that this guy wears a red, white and blue costume makes zero difference. Considering that Cap is borderline-superhuman and isn't limited to just punching people anyway, it would take some really sorry-ass suspension of disbelief to find him especially unrealistic.
Shroom Man 777 wrote:I think the guy's killed a crapload of people, really. I mean, in the comics. I don't see him having a no-kill code, personally. I mean, he hangs out with Wolverine who goes snikt-bub, and the Punisher. I don't think he gets (or needs) any TDK treatment.
He definitely doesn't have a code against killing. The first issue of his current series had him tossing terrorists off the roof of a moving train. It was confirmed that some of them didn't make it. He'll avoid it when he can, but he does what's necessary. In a war setting? Not a chance.
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While I realise we might not have the fondest memories of Civil War, Cap's interactions with the Punisher were less than totally friendly there due in no small part to the Punisher's policy of killing people.

I hadn't come across the Hugo Weaving as Red Skull info before, so colour me hopeful on the villain front.
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xt828 wrote:While I realise we might not have the fondest memories of Civil War, Cap's interactions with the Punisher were less than totally friendly there due in no small part to the Punisher's policy of killing people.

I hadn't come across the Hugo Weaving as Red Skull info before, so colour me hopeful on the villain front.
I hadn't heard about that, but it's a good sign. Weaving is quite good at the "quiet menace" type of character...the only better choice for the Red Skull I can think of would be someone like Anthony Hopkins.
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Sarevok wrote:A guy in a funny costume beating up infantry does not work anymore in 21st century. A movie is not a cheap 1940s comic book. To take Captain America seriously you need to at least try to make him capable of defeating well armed soldiers.
Again, examples of modern movies where a single guy defeats hordes of enemies are numerous. The fact that this guy wears a red, white and blue costume makes zero difference. Considering that Cap is borderline-superhuman and isn't limited to just punching people anyway, it would take some really sorry-ass suspension of disbelief to find him especially unrealistic.
Captain is not bullet proof. He cant turn invisible or fuck with peoples minds like the Shadow causing them to miss. If he just ran around and hit by people it would look stupid. Just because many other movies employ the dumb one man army with unexplained bullet dodging powers gimmick does not make it any less stupid.
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Sarevok wrote:Captain is not bullet proof. He cant turn invisible or fuck with peoples minds like the Shadow causing them to miss. If he just ran around and hit by people it would look stupid. Just because many other movies employ the dumb one man army with unexplained bullet dodging powers gimmick does not make it any less stupid.
His shield is bullet proof and more. He wears body armor. He can run a mile in a minute, and doesn't get tired. He uses guns where appropriate, and has stupid-good aim. He's a super-soldier. Furthermore, Cap is a tactician. Obviously, he isn't going to run headlong into a platoon of Nazis - at least not unless the writing is shit. No, he'd use his head. All this makes it more than plausible that he can fight like any other action hero. You're creating a problem where there is none.

If you yourself admit that many other movies use the "dumb one man army with unexplained bullet dodging powers gimmick", then I fail to see how it doesn't work in the 21st century anymore.
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Am I one fo the few people who actually LIKE the retro, paded look of Captain America?

I mean, when I read about people bitching that the wings on his helmet were painted on instead of "Real" molded wings, well Its hard to believe people can get so picky.

I mean the photos I see look like what a "real" hero might look like if made in WWII.

his suit is practical, padded, and he has a helmet that looks only slightly modified from a real WWII army helm.
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No, you aren't.

The crybabying over headwings is akin to whining that TDK batman didn't have bat nipples.
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xt828 wrote:While I realise we might not have the fondest memories of Civil War, Cap's interactions with the Punisher were less than totally friendly there due in no small part to the Punisher's policy of killing people.

I hadn't come across the Hugo Weaving as Red Skull info before, so colour me hopeful on the villain front.

You gotta remember though, in that case the Punisher was killing two super villains that had just teamed up with the Resistance, they weren't a threat to anyone and we actually allies. Cap was mad at Punisher for being a liability at that point and killing in cold blood rather then self defense.
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I quite liked that arc - I think it was about three comics total - in that it showed that Cap and Frank have utterly different moral compasses. For Frank, the important thing was that they were villains - as bad guys, they had to die. For Cap, the important thing was that they were prepared to ally with him - their previous allegiances and (it's suggested) ongoing criminal activities were less important than their help against a common foe. I thought it actually worked quite well as a metaphor for the his service in WW2 and the alliance with the Soviets.

I did get the strong impression that Cap objected to Frank just walking into the room and shooting people right after they'd been congratulated on changing teams, too. Makes you wonder if Frank would try to kill say Quicksilver if given the chance, as another past criminal.
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I'd say yes. He tried to kill Eddie Brock, who was probably mostly not responsible for his actions, after he became Anti-Venom. While they were on the way to rescue some people.
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JointStrikeFighter wrote:No, you aren't.

The crybabying over headwings is akin to whining that TDK batman didn't have bat nipples.
I don't have a problem with the headwings, but I take exception to you comparing it with the bat-nipples.
The wings on Cap's helmet are a prominent feature of his costume in the comics. They've been part of his costume for pretty much his entire career. The bat-nipples were entirely the product of Schumacher's fevered mind - not a carry-over from any Batman comic I've ever heard of.
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Behold! Steve Rogers!

Unfortunately not in the costume. But damn, does Evans look ripped or what? Here's some other pictures from the set too.
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Hope this isn't too much of a necro, but Entertainment Weekly has a few new pictures related to the movie: Link. I didn't know Hugo Weaving was attached to play the Red Skull. Weaving's always worth watching as a villain in my book.
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<3 the old-style shield. Little sad that Chris Evans manages to look a touch scruffy regardless of what he's wearing.

Hugo Weaving is rarely not worth watching. He's a good actor and generally chooses roles well.
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Not digging the uni while he is on the bike, but the pictures from this place are very reassuring. :D

Especially this...
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Havok wrote:Not digging the uni while he is on the bike, but the pictures from this place are very reassuring. :D

Especially this...
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Fucking dope.
At least for the WWII setting, I am fully in favor of the non-circular shield.
I am looking forward to this. Here's hoping that between it and Green Lantern we have a nice, full-of-good-comic-movies year ahead!
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I am assuming that is "modern" Captain then?
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I'm good with that. I was hoping they would do something neat with the scale male look, but this is understandable. I'm guessing that based on the guys in the background though, that yeah, modern Cap.
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Hmmm... actually it looks like they are in the foreground as well. Cap is surrounded. Uh oh! :lol:
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