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That's nothing compared to Tourassque, Evil monsters that run around in Hawaian shirts, cameras, eat everything, and wield deadly credit cars of sharpness.
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Tarasque sounds like someone mispronouncing my great-grandparent's tribe, the Tarasca.
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I've invoked the tarrasque on many an occasion as a DM, usually when I was bored and wanting to start a new campaign. :twisted: I ran into it once as a player. It had been sleeping for eternity and I went to great lengths to find its cave and wake it up. I had teleportation magic at the ready, so I got away, but the whole continent was devestated. Bwahahaha!
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Darth Gojira wrote:Tarasque sounds like someone mispronouncing my great-grandparent's tribe, the Tarasca.
Actually, the Tarrasque is named after a creature from French folklore. However, the French tarrasque only bears a passing resemblance to its D&D counterpart.
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Simon H.Johansen wrote:The thing is - is this overpowered beastie ever used in the game?? And are there any D&D players who actually have succeeded in killing it?? And more importantly, if it is used at all, is it used as anything else than a punishment for rude gamers?
No a mid level Mage with a ring of 3 wishes can easily kill it. A high
level one could magic jar it. A high level mage/psi, Dragon or some
special undeads are far worse.
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Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Darth Gojira wrote:Tarasque sounds like someone mispronouncing my great-grandparent's tribe, the Tarasca.
Actually, the Tarrasque is named after a creature from French folklore. However, the French tarrasque only bears a passing resemblance to its D&D counterpart.
Kinda like the AoM hydra and it's Greek counterpart. No to mention the rest of the mythical beasties, which seem more Harryhausen than Homer.
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Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Darth Gojira wrote:Tarasque sounds like someone mispronouncing my great-grandparent's tribe, the Tarasca.
Actually, the Tarrasque is named after a creature from French folklore. However, the French tarrasque only bears a passing resemblance to its D&D counterpart.
Now I gotta post the entire friggin myth....

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No a mid level Mage with a ring of 3 wishes can easily kill it. A high
level one could magic jar it. A high level mage/psi, Dragon or some
special undeads are far worse.
Of course, After all You need a Wish to kill him anyways.
The Magic Jar (which would mean very little difference the level of the wizard) is extremelly unlikely, not say you will lost your body if you do not posses the thing.
Now, High Level wizards are needed, and of course Dragons are such things. Unless you mean the high level Lych (which is a wizard in the end) there is very little difference. Of course there is the Nightcrawler, that can physically face the tarrasque, but hardly kill him...
You need high level beings, that is all. And among then, spellcasters.
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lgot wrote: You need high level beings, that is all. And among then, spellcasters.
A black pudding or similar creature is able to kill big T pretty fast.
The tarrasque isn't able to fly and lacks spellcasting abilities. It is
dead meat against flying opponents.
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not at all
The black pudding can not damage more than 40 hps the tarrasque, so It will never kill him.
and yeah, flying is a big deal. It keep you out of tarrasque reach. But you must be able to
hit the tarrasque and he is immune to almost every ranged attack and he regenerates 40 hps/round. So, most of things in the Monster Manual does not even do enough damage to him or can hit him.
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lgot wrote:not at all
The black pudding can not damage more than 40 hps the tarrasque, so It will never kill him.
Blackpuddings will split if they get hit. The Tarrasque will quickly face
dozends of blackpuddings.
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so, Thousands of things that can not hit him.
BP do Slam + 8 melee attack. Tarrasque AC is 35. Just add 20 and what do you see ? They hit at best a 28 AC. Not him.
their damage ? 2D6 + 4 plus 2d6 acid. Their best damage is 30. Tarrasque regenerates 40 each round.
I will not even bore to consider BP constrict attack.
And BP have no speed to hold tarrasque and they actually have a limit for their split.
Virtually, The Tarrasque is Immune to Black Puddings.
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Can't the Tarraque just eat the puddings? That's what it does to everything else.
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I once heard a plan for really low-level characters to kill a Tarrasque. (IIRC it was from Chuck Glasgow on the CBR Rumbles board.) It involved finding some Green Slime (while equipped with protective gear) and arranging for the Tarrasque to eat it. The Green Slime will convert the Tarrasque into itself, at which point your low-level characters open a can of whoopass on the ex-Tarrasque slime. This may not work in 3rd edition though.
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Personally, I'd rule that Tarrasque digestive acids (since it's described as this giant engine of all-devouring destruction and all) > green slime, but hey, whatever the DM says.
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lgot wrote: The Tarrasque is Immune to Black Puddings.

No it isn't. Tarrasque attacks BP and takes 2d6 acid damage. This
is 7 avg damage. 7x6 = 42 acid damage per round. Add some lucky
BP hits and this gets worse. 100 BP will hit it 5 times per round. 77 acid
damage per round. Both creatures are stupid the BP will win - it just takes
alot of time.
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No he is immune.
For once BP only does acid damage if He hits, not when He is hit.
For twice, No lucky black pudding will hit tarrasque. If the BP rolls a 20 , he does not hit the tarrasque. Third one BP never gets to 100. And just look their movement, in one round Tarrasque will be out of BP reach to destroy something else.
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Since this is between two D&D critters, it's probably safe to note that the Tarrasque's basic 'save' against the BP's attack is automatically(Even if he rolls a 1!) higher than the difficulty required to avoid damage. In addition, even if they did score a normal hit, 25 HP of damage would immediately be ignored before we even discuss his regeneration(Damage Reduction).

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SirNitram wrote:Since this is between two D&D critters, it's probably safe to note that the Tarrasque's basic 'save' against the BP's attack is automatically(Even if he rolls a 1!) higher than the difficulty required to avoid damage. In addition, even if they did score a normal hit, 25 HP of damage would immediately be ignored before we even discuss his regeneration(Damage Reduction).
DR is useless against acid. Acid counts as a "energy attack" which
ignores DR. You will take acid damage if you hit the BP with your
natural attacks. There is no save against this type of damage AFAIK.
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Thunderfire wrote:
SirNitram wrote:Since this is between two D&D critters, it's probably safe to note that the Tarrasque's basic 'save' against the BP's attack is automatically(Even if he rolls a 1!) higher than the difficulty required to avoid damage. In addition, even if they did score a normal hit, 25 HP of damage would immediately be ignored before we even discuss his regeneration(Damage Reduction).
DR is useless against acid. Acid counts as a "energy attack" which
ignores DR. You will take acid damage if you hit the BP with your
natural attacks. There is no save against this type of damage AFAIK.
Reflex save, against a 29. The Tarrasque's Reflex save is 29.
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and to be quite frankly, nowhere in the BP description says that when he is hit, the attacker takes any damage...
The Tarrasque is immune.
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The Yosemite Bear wrote:*looks for Rescipe for Tarrasque Soup* (It's in there trust me.)
Try to get some BBQ griffin while your'e at it.
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SirNitram wrote:
Thunderfire wrote: Reflex save, against a 29. The Tarrasque's Reflex save is 29.
I can only find reflex saves for items in the BP discription. It says that
any melee hit deals acid damage - this includes hits taken by the
BP. Weapons/Armor must make a save or be disolved. They would
still take acid damage if they have been hit 50/20 depending of the
type of the weapon/armor.
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I can only find reflex saves for items in the BP discription. It says that
any melee hit deals acid damage - this includes hits taken by the
BP.
no, it does not. This is HIS attack description. Next paragraph talks about BP when hit by weapons and they must make a save. And there there is no description of damage taken by the attacker.
The Tarrasque takes NO damage when he hits. Plus a weapon extra damage (Such as acid) only do damage if they hit the adversay. The BP can not pass the fact the Tarrasque is only hit by weapons +5 or Better.
The tarrasque is immune to BP.
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