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Re: WANDAVISION (SPOILERS, SWEETIE!)

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FireNexus wrote: 2021-02-22 09:34am I’m not saying she’s a dog murderer, per se...
DUDE, did you not hear her SONG. She outright BRAGS "I killed Sparky too!" and cackles like the Wicked Witch of the West over it!.

Also, yes, Piotr was under her spell. Again, in her song, when he's at the door his back is covered with the blue/black magic as Agatha's outside drinking wine.
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LadyTevar wrote:
FireNexus wrote: I’m not saying she’s a dog murderer, per se...


DUDE, did you not hear her SONG. She outright BRAGS "I killed Sparky too!" and cackles like the Wicked Witch of the West over it!.
Well, I suppose technically it’s possible she killed Sparky by accident and just finds the whole thing amusing :P

Admittedly odds are pretty low. :lol:
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LadyTevar wrote: 2021-02-22 09:49pm
FireNexus wrote: 2021-02-22 09:34am I’m not saying she’s a dog murderer, per se...
DUDE, did you not hear her SONG. She outright BRAGS "I killed Sparky too!" and cackles like the Wicked Witch of the West over it!.
It’s a joke from Kathryn Hahn’s character on Parks and Rec.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ea6742eb-8 ... 8fa4033756
Also, yes, Piotr was under her spell. Again, in her song, when he's at the door his back is covered with the blue/black magic as Agatha's outside drinking wine.

I’m not certain that means he’s under her spell. It could be that he is a full on magical projection. We’ll find out in probably two weeks.
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Well we know why he couldn't leave the sphere of influence without being torn apart- it had already been done by S.W.O.R.D. on Vision's remains so he was entirely a projection by Wanda. Not much was revealed about Agatha, though the very use of magic falls within Doctor Strange's domain so the chances of him showing up just rose. They treated the "Scarlet" part of Wanda's nickname as some big reveal even though it's common knowledge by now.
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Ok... So Wanda made an infinity stone from scratch. Still no answers on Pietro, but an implication that he’s not a real boy.
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We now know WHY Westview. Seeing that deed to the house lot with "To grow old in - V" damn near broke me.
We know now that the MindStone didn't just give her powers, somehow it connected to her, which was why when she cloned Vision, the energy was GOLD, not scarlet.
And yes, there WAS another Vibranium signature like I said there was, it's Vision's Body, now animated as "White Vision" (per the comics). I'm betting Vision and White Vision will merge next week (and if they don't I'll be VERY UNHAPPY).

And Scarlet Witch is a Chaos/Creation Witch, where Agatha is obviously a Dark/Black Witch. So the kids are Magical Constructs, probably just like F-ietro (as even she called him). The question is did Agatha put her through this just to learn how to make a Hex, or is Agatha still walking the line of somewhat Mentor?

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LadyTevar wrote: 2021-02-26 10:45pm We now know WHY Westview. Seeing that deed to the house lot with "To grow old in - V" damn near broke me.
A lot of the grief stuff really hit me, too.

A feel a bit bad for Construct!Vision - he seems alive (at least as alive as the original Vision) and is capable of independent thought, yet he's also "not real", being a particularly animated figment of Wanda's imagination.

But the point about his energy being gold rather than red might be significant - could it be that the Mind Stone wants something to inhabit? So Wanda might have channeled that energy to create Construct!Vision but unlike the rest of Wandavision Westview he's actually somewhat independent of her. Which also probably explains why he could release people form Wanda's mind control - he isn't just an automaton playing the part, he, too, is somehow channeling the primal energies at play.

Could he enter White!Vision and thus come back from the dead that way?

Could the kids then, actually, also be independent enough from Wanda's energy - being, perhaps, a cross between the red and yellow energies - to have an independent existence after all this?

Clearly this isn't going to end at the "end" of the series, it's going to tie in with the rest of the MCU somehow.
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Didn't director guy claim Wanda stole Vision's body? This looked like she created Construct!Vision out of thin air/her magic, not reanimated his remains. WhiteVision being Vision's remains restarted would explain why the vibranium signature actually labelled 'Vision' was in the camp (and also that Construct!Vision is real enough to have his own signature) but what's with the alleged theft?
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Batman wrote: 2021-02-27 05:07pm Didn't director guy claim Wanda stole Vision's body? This looked like she created Construct!Vision out of thin air/her magic, not reanimated his remains. WhiteVision being Vision's remains restarted would explain why the vibranium signature actually labelled 'Vision' was in the camp (and also that Construct!Vision is real enough to have his own signature) but what's with the alleged theft?
Yes... if you recall what Hayward showed Rambeau, Darcy, and Woo had that bit of film with Wanda floating down, and then the camera feed Cut Off. They never saw what Wanda did after she floated down into the lab, Hayward had edited that part out. He lied to Rambeau et al about the theft, made it look like Wanda went nuts and damaged the lab.

So... Hayward played Wanda, with that 'you can revive him'; played Rambeau et al with the "theft"; and got just what he wanted, a rebooted Weapons Platform made of solid Vibranium.
What I'm thinking he's forgotten is that Vision was Ultron + Jarvis overlay + Mindstone, animated by Magic (courtesy of Thor's Lightning the first time). Two of those are MISSING in White Vision.
Hayward just Frankenstein'd his very own monster.
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What with Wanda did to Westville (Westview? you know what I mean) that she isn't mentally firing on all cylinders is crystal clear, no need to pour on a fake theft to convince people of that
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