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They've been showing the Star Wars tech show also. Just good marketing to roll them out when there are movies in the theaters.I am not sure why the History channel is playing them but they are, and they are quite good.
Well...from what I understand...the costume is designed to be more flexible...while giving us the impression that there is stil armor protection.Galvatron wrote:One thing that continues to bug me about the Nolanverse Batman is his costume. The mask is awful and looks downright painful for Bale to wear. Personally, as shitty as Batman & Robin was, I think it had the best batmask so far. At least it didn't look like it was too small for Clooney's head...
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- PeZookCan't take him seriously looking at him in the face. The unnecessary put-on throaty voice doesn't help. The actual suit itself is cool, I like it a lot.The mask is awful and looks downright painful for Bale to wear
I got used to it after my 4th viewing of Batman Begins. You've got to love that line though.Vympel wrote:Can't take him seriously looking at him in the face. The unnecessary put-on throaty voice doesn't help. The actual suit itself is cool, I like it a lot.The mask is awful and looks downright painful for Bale to wear
I get the feeling that, in-universe, the batvoice is due to some gadget under the mask that he uses to both disguise his real voice and to make himself sound scarier to thugs. Why else would he talk that way in private with people who know his secret identity?Vympel wrote:Can't take him seriously looking at him in the face. The unnecessary put-on throaty voice doesn't help. The actual suit itself is cool, I like it a lot.The mask is awful and looks downright painful for Bale to wear
Have you figured out Harvey Dent's "he murdered five people, two of them cops" bodycount? Because I know he let Ramirez live and I can't think of any other cops he'd have killed. Plus I only added up to four, and that's assuming he killed that bartender along with the first dirty cop, which he wouldn't have much reason to do.Stark wrote:Yeah same; I've actually seen this movie twice now (which isn't something I do) and it's very clear what he's doing. Some of the stuff people here ask seems pretty strange to me sometimes.
It blew the top off the record books. Biggest opening of all time.Death from the Sea wrote:by the way, where does the 158 million that I am seeing the Dark Knight did over the weekend fit into the record books?
You'd think a gadget would do a better job at concealing his voice than making it sound like he has a frog in his throat.Galvatron wrote: I get the feeling that, in-universe, the batvoice is due to some gadget under the mask that he uses to both disguise his real voice and to make himself sound scarier to thugs. Why else would he talk that way in private with people who know his secret identity?
kickass.CaptainChewbacca wrote:It blew the top off the record books. Biggest opening of all time.Death from the Sea wrote:by the way, where does the 158 million that I am seeing the Dark Knight did over the weekend fit into the record books?
Well, to be fair, all the other movie Batmen and even the TAS version had deeper, more gravelly voices whilst in the mask. The only reason we're scrutinizing the Nolanverse version is because we demand perfection.General Zod wrote:You'd think a gadget would do a better job at concealing his voice than making it sound like he has a frog in his throat.Galvatron wrote: I get the feeling that, in-universe, the batvoice is due to some gadget under the mask that he uses to both disguise his real voice and to make himself sound scarier to thugs. Why else would he talk that way in private with people who know his secret identity?
I'm not demanding perfection, just a voice that doesn't sound like someone who has a hoarse throat from shouting all night.Galvatron wrote: Well, to be fair, all the other movie Batmen and even the TAS version had deeper, more gravelly voices whilst in the mask. The only reason we're scrutinizing the Nolanverse version is because we demand perfection.
Oh..but he denied those allegations... I just saw that on Yahoo and thought it came right out of left field. Whether he walks on that or not, you have to admit that's perfect timing...Galvatron wrote:Well, if Bale ends up doing time for assaulting his mom and sister, you may not have to hear it again.
I think that the black police officer in the hospital that the Joker shot may have been accredited to Dent. That was the only other cop that I could think of.RogueIce wrote:Have you figured out Harvey Dent's "he murdered five people, two of them cops" bodycount? Because I know he let Ramirez live and I can't think of any other cops he'd have killed. Plus I only added up to four, and that's assuming he killed that bartender along with the first dirty cop, which he wouldn't have much reason to do.Stark wrote:Yeah same; I've actually seen this movie twice now (which isn't something I do) and it's very clear what he's doing. Some of the stuff people here ask seems pretty strange to me sometimes.
Watched it again last night and made sure to count.RogueIce wrote:Have you figured out Harvey Dent's "he murdered five people, two of them cops" bodycount? Because I know he let Ramirez live and I can't think of any other cops he'd have killed. Plus I only added up to four, and that's assuming he killed that bartender along with the first dirty cop, which he wouldn't have much reason to do.Stark wrote:Yeah same; I've actually seen this movie twice now (which isn't something I do) and it's very clear what he's doing. Some of the stuff people here ask seems pretty strange to me sometimes.
Maroni could have survived from the car flipping since Dent did (albeit seriously injured), so he's not really a confirmed kill imo.havokeff wrote: Maroni and his driver.
I got the impression that the Joker didn't care if he lived or died, as long as he had a good time in the process.The fact that had his hospital detonator actually worked like he seemed to want it to, he would have blown himself up only underscores just how unimpressed I was with him.
The Deathstalker is with you on this. Eckhardt did a great job, considering he had to keep up with Ledger's performance. Eckhardt should be considered for an Oscar nomination.Harvey Dent, on the other hand, was fantastic. I loved Eckhardt's performance (except for the, again, contrived way in which he let the Joker go), his transformation, physically and mentally, into Two-Face, his rationalization for his actions, and his rage.
That's part of it. Notice how he was laughing his ass off when Batman nearly knocked him off that tower near the end, only to catch him just before hitting the ground? He doesn't go out of his way to get himself killed, but he doesn't really seem bothered by it either.I got the impression that the Joker didn't care if he lived or died, as long as he had a good time in the process.
It's not really about the audience knowing the character beforehand. I'm talking about story potential. Ra's Al Ghul is a terrorist leader with worldwide reach; that allowed him to threaten the entire city with destruction in the first movie. Joker is an utter sociopath devoted to causing chaos. If he didn't threaten Gotham with outright destruction like Ra's did, he certainly did a good job of fucking the city up. Harvey Dent is always portrayed as a friend and ally of Bruce Wayne's. That automatically gives his eventual transformation into Two Face far more tragedy. These guys aren't regarded as among Batman's top villains just because they're well known, but because they bring the most to a story.Paolo wrote:To who, though? I'd wager most non-fans of the franchise (myself included) never heard of Ras al'Ghul before Batman Begins. Batman and the Joker go together like peanut butter and jelly, but for the most part the only basis I have for that impression from a very brief scan of the literature and the first Batman. You might say that DK's ruined me for any other interpretation of the Joker. I would've never known Harvey Dent was as important to the Wayne mythos as he was in Dark Knight if I hadn't read about it somewhere: Tommy Lee Jones' performance in Batman Forever as forgettably campy as it was.Jim Raynor wrote:So if not Harvey, then who? Some of Batman's other villains are too unrealistic for Nolan's style. The Penguin is not that farfetched and is more well-known than most. However, I've read that Nolan isn't too fond of that character.
They've already used Batman's most ingenious and large-scale villain (Ras Al Ghul), his archenemy (Joker), and one of his most personal foes (Two Face). Wouldn't Penguin, or most other villains seem like a big step down from those?
If Nolan and his team can pull off the same magic twice, he can pick any villian in the Rogue Gallery as far as I'm concerned. Reboot away.
I remember in Batman Begins there was a scene where Bruce is getting fitted out with his suit and I remember him putting what looked like a mike/some sort of chip inside his headpiece. Did I imagine it?Galvatron wrote:I get the feeling that, in-universe, the batvoice is due to some gadget under the mask that he uses to both disguise his real voice and to make himself sound scarier to thugs. Why else would he talk that way in private with people who know his secret identity?Vympel wrote:Can't take him seriously looking at him in the face. The unnecessary put-on throaty voice doesn't help. The actual suit itself is cool, I like it a lot.The mask is awful and looks downright painful for Bale to wear
