Confessor Terry Goodkind
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Confessor Terry Goodkind
So has anyone read the last book in the series and is it any good.
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The book richard finds is a copout.
The final part of the solution to Orden is a copout.
Ja'la tournement is fun.
Terry finally put Richard in a screwed up situation that he can't just War Wizard his way out of completely.
Zedd is, as always, amusing when he's not talking about moral implications and becomes a piece of cardboard.
The rest are cardboard the entire time and without personality.
All in all, if you want a good read, go somewhere else. If you're looking for a read that has some entertainment and you're willing to overlook the occasionally preachy parts, then its ok.
The final part of the solution to Orden is a copout.
Ja'la tournement is fun.
Terry finally put Richard in a screwed up situation that he can't just War Wizard his way out of completely.
Zedd is, as always, amusing when he's not talking about moral implications and becomes a piece of cardboard.
The rest are cardboard the entire time and without personality.
All in all, if you want a good read, go somewhere else. If you're looking for a read that has some entertainment and you're willing to overlook the occasionally preachy parts, then its ok.
All in all, I enjoyed the book. However, there were plot points that were kind of rushed and ended up being somewhat unsatisfying. The book was about 600 pages long, but I feel it could have used another 200 or more to flesh some parts out.
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-Common Imperial Guard saying
"Scripture also says 'Render unto Caesar what Caesar demands.' And right now, Caesar demands a building permit,"
-County Commisioner Mike Whitehead to Dr. Dino
I gave up on this series after Blood of the Fold. I'm surprised I managed to make myself finish that.
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-- The King of Swamp Castle, Monty Python and the Holy Grail
"Nothing of consequence happened today. " -- Diary of King George III, July 4, 1776
"This is not bad; this is a conspiracy to remove happiness from existence. It seeks to wrap its hedgehog hand around the still beating heart of the personification of good and squeeze until it is stilled."
-- Chuck Sonnenburg on Voyager's "Elogium"
I read up to Faith of the Fallen, or as I like to call it Ayn Rand's Fountainhead, but couldn't muster the force of will to read through Pillar's of Creation. Guess I'll never know if ...
Richard makes it to some location in time to stop the horrible thing just about to happen!
Richard makes it to some location in time to stop the horrible thing just about to happen!
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I just flicked through to the end while waiting to meet a friend. You could of course simply read what happens on Wiki it you don't want to read the whole book but have already invested time into the series you just want to know how it ends.
All in the all the power of Orden allows Richard a deus ex machina to give the Imperial Order the fate they truely deserve. Hint this fate is a line from book one where Zedd punishes his students by for siding against him by leaving them alone to endure the consequences of their own actions.
All in the all the power of Orden allows Richard a deus ex machina to give the Imperial Order the fate they truely deserve. Hint this fate is a line from book one where Zedd punishes his students by for siding against him by leaving them alone to endure the consequences of their own actions.
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Oh, wow. I havent looked at this series since Pillars of Creation, but I just read the wiki summaries. My god, they are painful.
Goodkind really likes changing the rules of magic every book, eh?
Goodkind really likes changing the rules of magic every book, eh?
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Another thing which irritates me is this is just another story where the protagonists win by deus ex machina rather than actual military acumen.
Granted Goodkind may have written himself into a hole by making the Imperial Order such a huge army. IIRC from figures given in Faith of the Fallen, the army would have likely rivalled the PRC's standing army in numbers (although this is clearly NOT the Order's standing army, but one mobilised for war). So I can understand that it would be difficult for the D'harans to win, unless Goodkind makes the D'harans become like the Spartans from 300.
Granted Goodkind may have written himself into a hole by making the Imperial Order such a huge army. IIRC from figures given in Faith of the Fallen, the army would have likely rivalled the PRC's standing army in numbers (although this is clearly NOT the Order's standing army, but one mobilised for war). So I can understand that it would be difficult for the D'harans to win, unless Goodkind makes the D'harans become like the Spartans from 300.
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Australia, Canada, China, Colombia, Denmark, Ecuador, Finland, Germany, Malaysia, Netherlands, Norway, Singapore, Sweden, USA.
Always on the lookout for more nice places to visit.
IIRC, they win one war by going past the huge IO army and burning their homelands, killing civilians and destroying cities. And that's it. They return home safe, despite being far from their support base, with a huge army in their rear, and having burnt all the potential forage in the area.
Deus Ex Machina is too kind.
Deus Ex Machina is too kind.
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In the end the books just became an objectivist rant and finally the whole Impeiral Order was deported with a Deus Ex machina or something by characters who stopped showing any personality for what, 5 books already? That sucks.
1st and 2nd books were good, but after that it just went downhill.
1st and 2nd books were good, but after that it just went downhill.
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You mean they defeated that huge army which outnumbers the PRC's by cutting off their food supply, but the Imperial Order manages to recruit more men to replenish those lost and come back just in time for Richard to use his deus ex machina move.Setzer wrote:IIRC, they win one war by going past the huge IO army and burning their homelands, killing civilians and destroying cities. And that's it. They return home safe, despite being far from their support base, with a huge army in their rear, and having burnt all the potential forage in the area.
Deus Ex Machina is too kind.
Never apologise for being a geek, because they won't apologise to you for being an arsehole. John Barrowman - 22 June 2014 Perth Supernova.
Countries I have been to - 14.
Australia, Canada, China, Colombia, Denmark, Ecuador, Finland, Germany, Malaysia, Netherlands, Norway, Singapore, Sweden, USA.
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Countries I have been to - 14.
Australia, Canada, China, Colombia, Denmark, Ecuador, Finland, Germany, Malaysia, Netherlands, Norway, Singapore, Sweden, USA.
Always on the lookout for more nice places to visit.