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Not really, and what there was was forgettable dreck. It's far, far, far
outpaced by the volume of material produced in between AOTC and ROTS.
Forgettable to you, maybe. But not to kids like me.
The prequels don't have a good long term reception. It's been 20 years, that ship has sailed.
There's been an increasingly amount of people saying the prequels were not as bad as people used to say recently. Amongst my generation, it's been seen as something that is enjoyable, even if there were a number of faults along the way.
That's more a function of the incompetence of Lucasfilm at managing their IP than anything to do with the ST as such.
The reason why there is so little materials is partly due to the sequels being unwilling to do anything new. What can you do about the sequel era when all the planets you are getting is essentially the same as the OT era planets? And everything is shrouded in such secrecy that even directors don't dare to intrude upon things created by other directors? ( See Rian Johnson's comments about the Knights of Ren). The sequel era being an era that hinges so heavily on secrecy is the thing that holds the entire era back.
I don't consider that at all relevant to the general audience or its critical reception.
I think it does. That so much of the backlash against TLJ was made up of people who were annoyed their pet theories were dashed goes to show what TFA hinges on as a film to be well-received in people's mind.
This all sounds just like stuff you want to happen because you don't like the sequels. Given TROS' mediocrity still got it to over $1B at the box office, and the continued popularity of other material, I doubt it will.
It got to a billion because it's marketed as the big finale to everything. People wanted to at the least find out what is going on, and want to be part of the conversation even if they hated the sequels. Context matters. It's why Solo failed, because it has less to do with the actual quality of the film, but everything to do with whether people feel it is an important movie that will form a part of people's water-cooler conversation at the office or in schools.
Star Wars hasn't been the dominant pop-culture franchise in the world since a brief period between 1977-1983. The prequels got their lunch eaten by LOTR and Harry Potter, ferchrissakes. This idea that Star Wars was some worldwide cultural juggernaut against which nothing could stand is just pure fiction. It's just a big popular franchise. That's it.
It's a franchise that made $900 million in 1999, at a time where the only movie crossing a billion was Titanic. Ep 3 made $100 million more than Harry Potter in the US back in 2005, and was just behind HP by $50 million at the worldwide box office.
Ep 2, which was the poorest preforming prequels, came in 4th place behind LOTR, HP and Spiderman in 2002.
Rise of Skywalker on the other hand, is most likely to be number 9 on the spot, behind Endgame, Lion King remake, Frozen II, Spiderman, Captain Marvel, Toy Story 4, Joker and Aladdin. The good news for Disney is that most of the movies performing better than ROS are all owned by Disney.
However, the fact that a brand new superhero film featuring a B/C tier superhero Captain Marvel can earned more money than Rise of Skywalker ( the big grand finale to the Skywalker saga!) puts everything into perspective of just how little interest there is in the Star Wars franchise compared to its peers.
The prequels, despite being widely slated, never fell down to 9th place at the box office.
That's it. And ultimately, so what? It's not really a competition. I'm not going to shed any tears because kids like Marvel movies more than Star Wars. I'm not a Disney shareholder - and heck - even if I was - I wouldn't care because I own both.
If they make good stuff, people will show up. It's not complicated.
It is a competition in terms of how much money Disney will invest in Star Wars IP. We will still have investments in TV shows thanks to Disney+, but it can kickstart a trend of Disney trying to reduce budget for future Star Wars movies, as well as being increasingly unwilling to take creative risk with the franchise.
The correlation between what is "good" and what makes money isn't as simple. Solo, by all means wasn't that bad of a movie. But no one showed up because people think that the brand-name of Star Wars on its own isn't worth their time.
The poor performance of EP 9 also shows even the big Episodic movies isn't enough to get bums in the seats. Disney and LFL has shown themselves to be horrible at understanding feedback about the Star Wars movies. Everything they've done so far is to listen to feedback, and misinterpret wrongly again and again.
The OT pandering was what they thought everyone wanted, and they overplayed their cards with OT pandering. They course-corrected on Rian Johnson's work because they are getting feedback on how everything RJ did was terrible, and proceed to make a mess of movie in Ep 9. If Disney has shown themselves to be competent at understanding feedback from the audience, we would not be in position now, where the entire sequel era seems unappealing for a long while.
Humans are such funny creatures. We are selfish about selflessness, yet we can love something so much that we can hate something.