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Re: Orbital bombardments, planetary defenses, Death Stars, etc.

Posted: 2021-03-20 09:53am
by Lord Revan
Probably just removing exact values then as those can cause issues while, vague "does this much damage" descriptions won't cause as much problems, they essentially still saying the same thing just being more vague about it.

Re: Orbital bombardments, planetary defenses, Death Stars, etc.

Posted: 2021-03-20 10:39pm
by Galvatron
I think "reducing the upper crust of a planet to molten slag" is vague enough that it doesn't necessarily mean the entire planet anymore. It could be easily interpreted as meaning that a sustained bombardment can only do that to the surface in the vicinity of their target.

Re: Orbital bombardments, planetary defenses, Death Stars, etc.

Posted: 2021-03-20 10:51pm
by Vance
Galvatron wrote: 2021-03-13 04:09am In case anyone still cares: the new edition of what used to be known as the ICS has stripped out a lot of the numerical specs from the Acclamator data file, including the 200-gigaton yield for its turbolasers.

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Is that from a more recent release?
Some yields and annihilation rates were mentioned in the cross-sections themselves in the callouts. Cross-sections with attached yields included Slave 1 and LAAT gunships,
I had the 2016 British release of "Complete Vehicles" updated to include TFA.
Text on the back of the book stated "This book contains "legends" information, which is not considered canon in the star wars universe"
(disney verse).

Maybe this new edition carries the same caveat for the pre disney movies, or has that been dropped? See the back cover.

Re: Orbital bombardments, planetary defenses, Death Stars, etc.

Posted: 2021-03-20 11:07pm
by Galvatron
I don't see any such disclaimer on either cover or in the foreword. This is the book:

https://www.dk.com/us/book/978074402057 ... ew-edition

Re: Orbital bombardments, planetary defenses, Death Stars, etc.

Posted: 2021-03-20 11:12pm
by Batman
Galvatron wrote: 2021-03-20 10:39pm I think "reducing the upper crust of a planet to molten slag" is vague enough that it doesn't necessarily mean the entire planet anymore. It could be easily interpreted as meaning that a sustained bombardment can only do that to the surface in the vicinity of their target.
It 'could' be interpreted that way, but certainly not 'easily'. 'The upper crust of a planet' indicates 'all' or at least 'most 'of the upper crust of a planet. When you mean 'the few kilometres around the target' you don't say 'the planet'

Re: Orbital bombardments, planetary defenses, Death Stars, etc.

Posted: 2021-03-21 04:53pm
by Solauren
Galvatron wrote: 2021-03-20 10:39pm I think "reducing the upper crust of a planet to molten slag" is vague enough that it doesn't necessarily mean the entire planet anymore. It could be easily interpreted as meaning that a sustained bombardment can only do that to the surface in the vicinity of their target.
The tech books are usually precise enough that, if they mean 'around the target', they'll say it.

Re: Orbital bombardments, planetary defenses, Death Stars, etc.

Posted: 2021-03-23 10:29pm
by Vance
Pedantically then, that book 'canonizes' some of the old yields associated with "maximum power".
I doubt Palo was interested in this, as I'm pretty sure he was one of the guys who hate science in the SW, and those sort of discussions. But gigajoule ground laser weapons and megaton turbolasers are referenced in the cross-sections themselves;

https://i.gyazo.com/652d3d0de7b2afdd12f ... 9f01e6.png

Re: Orbital bombardments, planetary defenses, Death Stars, etc.

Posted: 2021-03-23 10:46pm
by Batman
We had fucking 200GT MTLs for the Acclamator on page in those ICSes, it's just that they're no longer canon

Re: Orbital bombardments, planetary defenses, Death Stars, etc.

Posted: 2021-03-23 11:42pm
by chimericoncogene
Palo is a moron. Fundamentally, you can get fifty megatons just by dropping a Star Destroyer from 500 kilometers up. Switch off the repulsorlifts and a city gets wiped off the map.
Once you start flying 50-million-tonne spaceships around at high interplanetary speeds (as opposed to taking a month to get to Mars and a year to get to the asteroid belt), you're looking at ludicrous kaboom.

Re: Orbital bombardments, planetary defenses, Death Stars, etc.

Posted: 2022-10-13 06:46pm
by Galvatron
Hey guys, get a load of this...

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Re: Orbital bombardments, planetary defenses, Death Stars, etc.

Posted: 2022-10-13 06:50pm
by Gandalf
Is Vader trapped under some wreckage or something?

Re: Orbital bombardments, planetary defenses, Death Stars, etc.

Posted: 2022-10-13 07:07pm
by Galvatron
No, he was just taking shelter inside it while the Executor was raining down biggatons of turbolasers. It's just a toppled water tank (I think).

Re: Orbital bombardments, planetary defenses, Death Stars, etc.

Posted: 2022-11-14 09:16pm
by Marko Dash
this is how he should have handled that kaiju thing from the first Vader comic, call in some danger close orbital fire support.