And that's balls. It's a galaxy spanning Empire, it takes six months or whatever to bring it down?
Or not. Since I hear the nuEU is something like there's the battle of Jakku six months after Endor and then they divide the galaxy in half. Let the Empire have half and then entirely disarm which is just seems silly and leaves half the galaxy in the hands of the EVIL EMPIRE, which doesn't sound very optimistic to me.
But then that doesn't really tally with the TFA Crawl.
You've kind of shot yourself in the foot by saying that. The EU had to have new challenges, new problems otherwise it would have no story. Yet you say one set of stories robs RotJ of optimism and the others don't?Now, see, I don't get that- this idea that if a victory isn't absolute and permanent, and history doesn't end, then it somehow robs it of any optimism.If you want an ongoing story you pretty much have to ditch that.
The galaxy got X number of years/decades of relative freedom and peace. That's not nothing. But it is a problem that that will likely largely been off-screen, so we don't really see the fruits of the heroes' victory.
Just because the struggle isn't over, that doesn't discount the great victory that was Endor. The Emperor is gone, the Jedi have returned. And this sticks. Is the happy ending of ANH ruined by ESB and RotJ?
I wasn't actually drawing a comparison between old and new, just saying the old wasn't that bad and made sense to me. (Again in broad strokes)Well, I emphatically disagree, and I've stated my reasons above.In very broad strokes the EU got it right. Without the Emperor the Empire slowly dissolves in in fighting with a few big names manage a resinsurgancy now and again. But it shrinks until its too small and compact to be worth conquering and peace happens.
I think a lot of fans are too attached to "This is the way it was", and mistake it for "This way was objectively better."
Again, don't visit people's intentions like that. That's something you don't like being done to you. I could return the slap and assume you like new things because it's new and it's counter-'mainstream nerd' to do so.
Well, Luke did form a new Jedi Order in the new canon, of course, but without much long-term success.[/quote]Luke successfully forms a new jedi order, not without hiccups but he perseveres and the jedi return to tbe galaxy.
As I say super broad strokes but not bad an overall direction there.
But TRR, it doesn't have to be a long-term success to count. We got x years/decades of a new JedI Order that really affected the galaxy. That's not nothing, you know.
Pretty much stated in one film or the other I think. I'd like to have known more as well. Me and my sister wondered if the red guys in TLJ were them.That's another thing I'd like to see in Episode IX, incidentally. We hear about the "Knights of Ren", but we've never seen them. I don't know if it was ever confirmed, but the logical inference is that they're Luke's students who joined Kylo instead of being slaughtered.