So I appears I guessed it, what we see is a kinetic impact limited to the volume we see because it was all dragged into hyperspace. Which is fine mechanics wise to explain visually what we see (except the Resurgents), but nothing in the technobabble in any way invalidates the consequences to continuity.Vympel wrote: ↑2018-03-07 10:11amI remembered I can buy ebooks on my iPhone, so I grabbed TLJ on my iPhone for $12.99. Pretty reasonable for a new release, way cheaper than a hardcover.
Of course, I went straight to the hyperdrive ramming part to see what Jason Fry wrote about it, given he foreshadowed it in an interview back in January.
So - yeah - it sounds like the Raddus's experimental shields stayed up long enough to ensure that the column of plasma that the Raddus became got thrown into a hyperspace tunnel, it sounds like?Under ordinary operations, the presence of a sizeable object along the route betwen the Raddus' realspace position and its entry point into hyperspace would have caused the heavy cruiser's fail-safes to cut in and shut down the hyperdrive.
But with the fail-safes offline and the overrides activated, the proximity alerts were ignored. When the heavy crusier plowed into the Supremacy's broad flying wing, the force of the impact was at least three orders of magnitude greater than anything the Raddus's inertial dampeners were rated to handle. The protective field they generated failed immediately, but the heavy cruiser's experimental shields remained intact for a moment longer before the unimaginable force of the impact converted the Raddus into a column of plasma that consumed itself.
However, the Raddus had also accelerated to nearly the speed of light at the point of that catastrophic impact - and the column of plasma it became was hotter than a sun and intensely magnetized. This plasma was then hurled into hyperspace along a tunnel opened by the null quantum-field generator - a tunnel that collapsed as quickly as it had been opened.
Both the column of plasma and the hyperspace tunnel were gone in far less than an eye-blink, but that was long enough to rip through the Supremacy's hull from bow to stern, tear a ragged hole in a string of Star Destroyers flying in formation with it, and finally wink out of existence in empty space thousands of kilometres beyond the First Order task force.
1.) The experimental shield technobabble is entirely fluff. It doesn't matter if the mass of the Raddus is plasma or solid. At any significant fraction of c the energies of "hotter than the sun" are rounding errors compared the mass to energy conversions involved. They could have converted the Raddus to pure anti-matter and it would still not-matter. "Intensly magnitized" is just irrelevant.
2.) I do find it interesting that they can use a shield to basically create formed plasma jet perpetrators without the need of explosives. I am not sure how that would be useful in SW, but it is just an author's technobabble line away from exploitation.
3.) In one line we are told the entire mass of the Raddus is turned into plasma. In the next we are told a null quantum-field generator, presumably on the former Raddus, opened up a hyperspace tunnel. A quantum-field generator that is now plasma. Is it that Is the tunnel created before the jump, then left open to jump through? Well no, because they don't say that and they tell us its closed as quickly as its opened....
So we are now still left with SW capital ship shield and armor that is penetrated solely via a kinetic impactor. Maybe the "intensly magnetized" bit is to explain why the plasma ball is not dissipated to the stars at upwards of 5000m/s. I don't think they thought about it that much, so I will just say we have the same volume of mass as plasma in the original volume and shape of the solid state Raddus. Since TRR won't understand this, I will point out this is being charitable to the writer.
All of this is then dragged into hyperspace, which is why we don't see a massive explosion destroying everything in site but instead just what would have been destroyed in the actual hyperspace jump path. This leads me to the following observations.
1.) Kimetic R-bombs are the most effective capital ship weapons in SW. There is no reason they are not and have not been used in the thousands of years of technology stasis given how trivial accelerating objects to large fractions of c is.
2.) The experimental shield and the conversion of Raddus to plasma is irrelevant.
3.) We still don't know what the damage mode is. What I THINK the author wants us to believe is that the plasma impactor "vaporized all the matter it impacted with and simultaneously pushed it into hyperspace with it. However, if we are saying you can just open a hyperspace tunnel and matter within it will just disapear into hyperspace, why does it matter what form that matter is in? Obviously non plasma objects can enter hyperspace. We call them ships. So now the new effective weapon is not accelerating a mass to near c via hyperdrive and having them impact in real space before transitioning to hyperspace (though this is still an effective weapon), its just accelerating a bar bones hyperdrive (specifically a quantum field generator) bus towards a target and having its tunnel blink anything within it into hyperspace no matter what its made of, shielded or not. Sort of like using a laser to pierce through a target rather than a slug to just explode against the first mass it hits.
4.) The Resurgents still remain unexplained. The author describes the resurgent formation accompanying the Supremacy a a "string." And given the tunnel mechanism described should they have been in such a formation it is quite plausible that that tunnel could cover that entire length of them and then some given we are talking large fractions c. Unfortunately in the movie they are not in such a formation, and we explicitly see they are impacted by destructive forces off the line of Raddus's acceleration and impact with the Supremacy. Are we supposed to believe the Raddus quantum field generator opened brand new tunnels not only after already being plasma like before, but now plasma that has also impacted the Supremacy's mass already? I hope not. I still maintain that the best way to pull off what we see and have it make any sense is have this impact with Supremacy accelerate shrapnel into the escorts, but then their damage modes would just be explosions, not the same hyper tunneling effect as we see with Supremacy. It also means that matter would have had to escape from the tunneling through the Supremacy, not something I feel was intended as possible as described or else the Supremacy itself would have suffered the effects throughout its mass. We also have the unfortunate effect decision to have exactly one slice through each Resurgent. Thats way too specific, way to neat, for any plausible explanation.
1.) This explains the visuals we see, EXCEPT the Resurgent. Which is unfortunate. I appreciate the effort, but like much else with this movie their pathological need gratuitous visuals prevents them from being resolved continuity wise. In an age when you can do anything with computers, I am unimpressed. Though it was pretty.
2.) No continuity issues are resolved with this explanation. Some new ones are created.
3.) I am pretty sure they wanted the experimental shield to be the crux of this explanation, and they failed miserably if that is the case. However, even if they didn't, its pretty clear that this would mean in universe nobody would know that it would lead to the result we see. That makes me wonder what Ms. Overdressed to Unimpress (OH NOES A COMMENT ON A MOVIE CHARACTERS WARDROBE!!!) actually thought would happen? Its quite possible she was just suiciding in an ineffectually selfish escape to avoid facing her failure and the judgment of her peers. BEST. FEMALE. MILITARY LEADER. CHARACTER. EVAR!!!! But seriously, it would solve the entire continuity issue if Holdo was expecting to be a gnat on a windshield and everybody was surprised at what happened. Alas, Holdo apologist would never entertain such sanity.