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Just had a Brain fart...

"We are the balance Ezra, we were meant to be Jedi so we could be here now when Lothal needs us most "

Thought occurs, it was the will of the Force that Kanan and Ezra met, what if that didn't happen?

TIE Defenders go into production
The Inquisitors aren't killed off

Imagine TIE Defenders at Yavin, Luke being hunted down by the Inquisitors.

If not for the will of the Force, the shroud of darkness would thicken

Kanan and Ezra are doomed by canon, but that doesn't mean their deaths are shallow, they play a very important part in the grander scheme allowing the light to blossom once more through Skywalker
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RogueIce wrote: If you're talking about Filoni's shirt as the source behind this, we have no idea if that was legit or if he's still trolling people about the whole thing.
Maybe, but it would not be the first time he did something like this. I believe he also canonized the idea that Rex was on Endor in the same fashion.
FedRebel wrote:If not for the will of the Force, the shroud of darkness would thicken

Kanan and Ezra are doomed by canon, but that doesn't mean their deaths are shallow, they play a very important part in the grander scheme allowing the light to blossom once more through Skywalker
Ezra's character arc in particular is largely about him realizing that it is not his destiny to destroy the Sith, but that what he does matters in other ways.
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The novel Thrawn has an interesting revelation that might hint towards Thrawn's fate against the Rebel Alliance: Spoiler
Unlike the Legends version of the character, in this version Thrawn was always loyal to the Ascendancy, and his apparent exile is in actuality a plot so that he can benefit the Ascendancy as opposed to the Empire. So perhaps he abandons the Empire and rejoins the Ascendancy at some point when he realizes that the Empire will inevitably lose to the Rebel Alliance.

There are also hints that the Yuzhan Vong or something like it is still out there, which also likely ties into Snoke and the formation of the First Order.

It is also possible that Thrawn is primarily interested in the superior power winning at any cost, and doesn't care if that is actually the Rebel Alliance. It would certainly explain his behavior nicely, in which he seems interested in weening out lousy Imperial officers as much as he is in crushing the Rebellion.
As a side note, it apparently also has an amusing line "Even when false, legends can be most informative." Nice summary of the new relationship betwee the new EU and the old.
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I just finished the novel myself and came to the same conclusion.
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He can be Revolver Thrawncelot and is playing all sides as a quadruple-agent so the galaxy that The Boss envisioned can come true! Hence the parasitic midichlorians designed by the Bendu whose speaking in parables and riddles makes him a CODETALKER, parasites which will be the basis of the NANOMACHINES the Empire will use, which will be hacked into the GUNS OF THE PARTISANS as Outer Jedha is envisioned!

It's really ridiculous that the Emperor and the Imperial military could be so easily and openly penetrated by some outside agent whose motives they don't know... then again, Group Captain Mandrake was able to influence the USAF's Strategic Air Command when one of its commanders lost his shit.
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You should read the book. Thrawn's motives were never concealed from the Emperor.
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Galvatron wrote:You should read the book. Thrawn's motives were never concealed from the Emperor.

Yeah. Like, that fact basically IS the key to the plot. The denouement is the reveal of Nightswan's identity,which ties in the political arc of the novel to reveal him as an even greater opponent than perceived, and the resolution comes in the form of Thrawn telling the truth, revealing how his motivations and bargains had provided him the resources to defend against what Nightswan had been doing on Coruscant and in the Admirality as well.
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Adam Reynolds wrote:The novel Thrawn has an interesting revelation that might hint towards Thrawn's fate against the Rebel Alliance: Spoiler
Unlike the Legends version of the character, in this version Thrawn was always loyal to the Ascendancy, and his apparent exile is in actuality a plot so that he can benefit the Ascendancy as opposed to the Empire. So perhaps he abandons the Empire and rejoins the Ascendancy at some point when he realizes that the Empire will inevitably lose to the Rebel Alliance.

There are also hints that the Yuzhan Vong or something like it is still out there, which also likely ties into Snoke and the formation of the First Order.

It is also possible that Thrawn is primarily interested in the superior power winning at any cost, and doesn't care if that is actually the Rebel Alliance. It would certainly explain his behavior nicely, in which he seems interested in weening out lousy Imperial officers as much as he is in crushing the Rebellion.
As a side note, it apparently also has an amusing line "Even when false, legends can be most informative." Nice summary of the new relationship betwee the new EU and the old.
I can see Thrawn playing both sides. Or, rather, his position being "I'm loyal to you as long as you're winning."

But then, wouldn't it stand to reason that he would side with the First Order, if he was alive by the time TFA rolled around?

Or, given that no one seems in a terribly strong position in TFA, could he be sitting it out, waiting to support whoever emerges in the strongest position at a critical moment?
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What is the Nightswan?
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:What is the Nightswan?
Thrawn's Moriarty, essentially.
The Romulan Republic wrote:But then, wouldn't it stand to reason that he would side with the First Order, if he was alive by the time TFA rolled around?
It wouldn't surprise me, especially given the ending of Aftermath: Empire's End.
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FedRebel wrote:Just had a Brain fart...

"We are the balance Ezra, we were meant to be Jedi so we could be here now when Lothal needs us most "

Thought occurs, it was the will of the Force that Kanan and Ezra met, what if that didn't happen?

TIE Defenders go into production
The Inquisitors aren't killed off

Imagine TIE Defenders at Yavin, Luke being hunted down by the Inquisitors.

If not for the will of the Force, the shroud of darkness would thicken

Kanan and Ezra are doomed by canon, but that doesn't mean their deaths are shallow, they play a very important part in the grander scheme allowing the light to blossom once more through Skywalker
I will reiterate that I do not feel canon obliges that Kanan and Ezra die, and honestly, I find that argument rather lacking in imagination, though the new teaser does make it seem more likely that it will happen anyway.
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Lego Star Wars spoils the fate of some of the crew. Not really relevant to Rebels except for point 3 in the article.
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More fodder for my theory that the Ghost becomes Mon Mothma's Air Force One.
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LEGO cartoons aren't canon, tho. (Or are they?)

On the other hand Forces of Destiny will be canon and they said one short will have Hera meet Leia on Endor.
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Battlefront II will also be canon and involve Inferno Squad on Endor. Maybe Hera will show up there too.

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I wonder where these guys were when the rebels and ewoks were making fools of the stormtroopers at the shield generator base.
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Just around the corner, obv.
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DesertFly wrote:Just around the corner, obv.
Perhaps there were oppositional super-Rebels who cancelled them out?
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Been catching up with Rebels again, plus with scenes in Rogue One, the Rebel Alliance is fragmented and dominated by a few sects who are more willing to act than others. Shouldn't surprise anyone that some groups do operations others would not.
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Gandalf wrote:
DesertFly wrote:Just around the corner, obv.
Perhaps there were oppositional super-Rebels who cancelled them out?
Imperials with anti-Imperials?
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Galvatron wrote:Battlefront II will also be canon and involve Inferno Squad on Endor. Maybe Hera will show up there too.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kae-JjbLsgA[youtube]se.

I wonder where these guys were when the rebels and ewoks were making fools of the stormtroopers at the shield generator base.
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Galvatron wrote:Battlefront II will also be canon and involve Inferno Squad on Endor. Maybe Hera will show up there too.

se.

I wonder where these guys were when the rebels and ewoks were making fools of the stormtroopers at the shield generator base.
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I can't tell if you're kidding or not, but why would Inferno Squad hang around the front entrance even after Han's team was captured and especially after the ewoks attacked.

On another note, I just finished the Ahsoka novel. Like the Thrawn novel, it all takes place prior to Rebels so we learn nothing about her fate. Other than her interaction with an Inquisitor and Bail Organa, I thought it was rather dull and uneventful.
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Galvatron wrote:I can't tell if you're kidding or not, but why would Inferno Squad hang around the front entrance even after Han's team was captured and especially after the ewoks attacked.

On another note, I just finished the Ahsoka novel. Like the Thrawn novel, it all takes place prior to Rebels so we learn nothing about her fate. Other than her interaction with an Inquisitor and Bail Organa, I thought it was rather dull and uneventful.
IIRC the imperial commanders thought that rebel/ewok attack was the decoy attack and therefore didn't deploy their main force to counter it, remember just because we know that Han's group was the main strike team it doesn't mean the imperials knew that.

Bad call from the imperials for sure but not an unjustified call.
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I thought the Imperials knew that the rebels came in on the Tyderium. Palpatine knew enough to refer to them as a "pitiful little band."
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Galvatron wrote:I thought the Imperials knew that the rebels came in on the Tyderium. Palpatine knew enough to refer to them as a "pitiful little band."
The Battlefront games seem to imply a much larger Rebel force than the film.
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