I like how he opens with a dig on some celebrity endorsements and then makes a snark about how much money the movie made. I guess appeals to popularity are only valid if one appeal is more democratic than the other?
"Snark about how much money the movie made"? Are you being deliberately dishonest, or do you merely have a comprehension problem? Indeed, he wasn't using an appeal to popularity at all, except to address that he finds it difficult to believe melodramatic claims that it's the worst film ever, because of not just its box office performance, but the positive feedback from audience polls and continued success. And that there's a false perception that the film is universally hated.
And note this part isn't even in the actual review. None of it is stated as objective fact, but as his personal opinion in the "Why do you give a shit what he said" part, before the actual rebuttal begins.
I stopped skimming when he accused the review of using actors for the "Describe a character" segment without any proof. At that point it's obvious that Raynor will make up whatever suits his purposes, which was to accuse the review of being 100% wrong. I skipped to the conclusion to confirm my suspicions:
A whole bunch of lies. In fact Raynor agrees with the RLM review on a few occasions, stating that he doesn't disagree with all of the points made. And you just skipped over all the factual rebuttals until you came to this one part that allowed you to decide it was all bullshit, right? Are you trolling, or are you really being this intellectually dishonest, you fucking asshat? Jesus.
I agree that Raynor has no factual basis with which to claim they were actors acting, even if that seems like the logical conclusion to some. But you cannot honestly seize on that one point and use it to dismiss his whole rebuttal.
the screed wrote:
I don't know how anyone can read this and still think that Stoklasa made good points in his review of TPM. Actually, I don't know how anyone thought he made good points in the first place.
And him stating that he "doesn't understand how anyone though Stoklasa made good points" is a 'screed', after dozens of pages of pointing out lie after falsehood after mistake and/or omission in RLM's review?
Jesus, I don't even fucking like TPM. I think kid Anakin is a vapid,annoying character who says too much stupid shit and saves the day in a wholy unbelievable manner, I think Obi-Wan was pushed to the side and given too little screen-time and not established enough as a character, I think Darth Maul was fucking retarded and should have been given some personality, some motivation, some... SOMETHING other than "I'm a spiky-headed Sith dude with bad teeth to match my bad temper!", and my list of complaints could, quite honestly, go on. A lot. But RLM's stupid review is plain bullshit on numerous fucking levels. That's plain when you look at the evidence. You're ignoring the evidence because you're either trolling for fun or you don't care about the truth and want to cling to bullshit.
Fucking hell I can't believe I even needed to make this fucking post.
Guardsman Bass wrote:
Excellent piece. I'm about 64 pages into it.
One thing - the whole "Republic credits are worthless" subplot always bothered me, even when I first saw the movie. I mean, sure, the credits are worthless on Tatooine, but presumably they're not worthless in the more important parts of the Republic. Are there no money-changers on Tatooine? Would it be too much of a risk to contact one?
That's something that bothered me too. And if nothing else, if they booked a berth on a ship into Republic Space, using Republic Credits, the person could obviously spend those Republic Credits while in Republic Space to buy goods he can actually sell back on Tattooine. Possibly for a profit.
But maybe Qui-Gon just really wanted to keep that pimpin' shiny silver ride, idk.
Anyway, aside from a few points like that, I found Raynor's rebuttal/review-of-a-review/essay/thing to be both well-stated, well-supported, and generally entertaining.
And now I'm walking away from this thread real quick before I get into an argument or flamewar or something.