nitpick On the "8 things I want in ep 3"

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2002-07-07 03:07am

your wish for the Executor to be in ep3, can not be made, the Executor was made only a few months before the start of ep5.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2002-07-07 03:14am

True, but I gather Mike was hoping for GL to contradict the established literature.

While that contradiction would be pretty fun, and it would be reassuring to see GL not worried about letting the EU control his vision...it would also be a major pain in the ass to all of us die-hard fans, so I think it would be even better to not have the Executor in EIII, but a different ship of similar scale. Hell, it would be cool to have a ship that's even bigger than the Executor. That way, the movie would refute a stupid preconception touted by the EU, without directly contradicting anything major in the EU.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2002-07-07 03:16am

well we could have the victory class SD.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2002-07-07 03:19am

Yeah, that too, but that's not exactly Executor scale, which is more along the lines of what I think Mike was hoping for. And more along the lines of kick-ass, too.
Just picture it...Obi-Wan serving Bail Organa in the Clone Wars aboard a twelve mile beauty of a dagger...or, even better, Anakin Skywalker acting as a Jedi advisor on the bridge of a twelve mile beauty of a dagger...in Palpatine's Navy of the Republic.
Any which way you slice it, EIII will be awesome.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2002-07-07 03:23am

well as acording to books the Clone wars left the galaxy a much smaller place, no small ship the size of a vic will be the planet scorcher, I expect something like a galaxy gun.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-07-07 04:08am

Hmm, having Executor in Ep III would throw up the question why it wasn't present in ANH.
But having any kind of Star Destroyer in EIII would make me happy, but I'd really really love to see the VicStar finally in a movie.
However, it's an EU creation, and I don't believe he's gonna include it.
Perhaps he will, because the VicStar is quite well known, but I still doubt it.
More likely we're gonna see canon vessels Y-Wings or Z-95 headhunters.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2002-07-07 04:27am

I think we are going to see some real spywork from the bothens , OR i hope so.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-07-07 04:34am

I hope for the biggest baddest most fantasic space battle ever seen on sci-fi including Separatist/TradeFed battleships, VicStars, TIE fighters, Z-95 headhunters, Y-Wings and Correlian Corvettes.

Kazuaki Shimazaki · Post by **Kazuaki Shimazaki** » 2002-07-07 06:22am

I won't really mind not having that Executor or even a similar size ship. What I REALLY want to see somewhere in that movie is a huge battle in terms of numbers.

Imagine the grand vistas, filled with warships from end to end. Technical fans. They can be anything from Acclamator size to Executor size, just have as many of them as possible, spread out as far as the eye could see.

Now have them engage each other. The capships. Fighters can contribute. But I want to see them dying like the pilots at Santa Cruz and they are not the main force. No cheap copouts. No Eight-Year Old kid single handedly winning the war for one side. This is supposed to be WAR. I want to see lots of DEAD warships on both sides.

Now, I'm happy.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2002-07-07 06:29am

I hope for the biggest baddest most fantasic space battle ever seen on sci-fi including Separatist/TradeFed battleships, VicStars

Then the Tradefed's need a new ship, because the ships of theirs that we've seen so far have been equipped only with anti-fighter weaponry (yeah, those turrets are humongous, but they're described as AF in the TPM ICS).

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-07-07 08:46am

Yes a fleet of Vics cause old Papy scraped up the funding to build them

Oh don't forget the clones have yet to go mad yet, Remeber they rebel aginst there human masters and go on a galxy wide killing spree, BDZ(Or the clony equivalt) alot of things from space-stations

Doomriser · Post by **Doomriser** » 2002-07-07 11:46am

We don't need the Executor in Ep. III. There is a frightening lack of canon Imperial warships between the sizes of the Imperator and the Executor. Let's see some light and heavy cruisers! A Star Carrier or Battleship like the Giel, or maybe a heavy cruiser like the Shockwave. Maybe a Destroyer Leader like the Alliegiance. Maybe one of those 8km "Super Star Destroyers." (Was Shockwave one of those?) That would help clear up a few things...

General G · Post by **General G** » 2002-07-07 01:22pm

Yes everyone seems to have forgotten the fact that if the clones don't go mad the EU will contradiced yet again.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-07-07 01:25pm

I thought clones only go mad if they are raised in a very short time?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-07-07 01:27pm

They go Start RAVING mad if rased in a short time
These remeber where orderd by a dead Jedi Master whos says they where not Paps clone and this is a ploy they are PROGRAMED to go nuts and kill everyone

Makes sens from Papys angle great way to sieze power to protect from those nasty clones

Sothis · Post by **Sothis** » 2002-07-07 05:33pm

I imagine we'll get to see: VSDs... Frigates, Dreadnoughts, an early form of TIE fighter

and maybe an Interdictor?

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-07-07 06:12pm

Maybe we will see the spartiri clones from the Thrawn series.It seems that those are the ones that went mad or maybe someone just royally FUBARS."Whats the quickestr we can get 10,000,000 new clones?""given current tech about two months ""do it" and only later to they learn about clone madness.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-07-07 06:47pm

Doomriser wrote:We don't need the Executor in Ep. III. There is a frightening lack of canon Imperial warships between the sizes of the Imperator and the Executor. Let's see some light and heavy cruisers! A Star Carrier or Battleship like the Giel, or maybe a heavy cruiser like the Shockwave. Maybe a Destroyer Leader like the Alliegiance. Maybe one of those 8km "Super Star Destroyers." (Was Shockwave one of those?) That would help clear up a few things...

There is no 8 km Super Star Destroyer.

1. The Luskankya was the sister ship of the Executor. It was described as 8 km.

2. The EGTVV says the Executor was the first SSD and was 8 km long.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-07-07 06:50pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:Hmm, having Executor in Ep III would throw up the question why it wasn't present in ANH.
But having any kind of Star Destroyer in EIII would make me happy, but I'd really really love to see the VicStar finally in a movie.
However, it's an EU creation, and I don't believe he's gonna include it.
Perhaps he will, because the VicStar is quite well known, but I still doubt it.
More likely we're gonna see canon vessels Y-Wings or Z-95 headhunters.

Actually the Vic was a older model for the movies. It was replaced by the Devestator for being an ISD. EU used it as an older version of an ISD (which is true with or without suspension of disbelief)

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-07-07 06:51pm

I want huge battles with multi-km warships, ships being blown apart by broadside after broadside, and maybe a mention of 200 gigaton TLs

Doomriser · Post by **Doomriser** » 2002-07-07 06:54pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
Doomriser wrote:We don't need the Executor in Ep. III. There is a frightening lack of canon Imperial warships between the sizes of the Imperator and the Executor. Let's see some light and heavy cruisers! A Star Carrier or Battleship like the Giel, or maybe a heavy cruiser like the Shockwave. Maybe a Destroyer Leader like the Alliegiance. Maybe one of those 8km "Super Star Destroyers." (Was Shockwave one of those?) That would help clear up a few things...
There is no 8 km Super Star Destroyer.

1. The Luskankya was the sister ship of the Executor. It was described as 8 km.

2. The EGTVV says the Executor was the first SSD and was 8 km long.

I know. Some [including Saxton, IIRC] have suggested that there actually might be an 8 km Super Star Destroyer as a companion to the 17 km Executor-class Command Ship. EU references repeatedly refer to 8km "Super Star Destroyers." It is true that they refer to the Executor in this context, but canonically, the Executor is 17.6 Km long. There is no getting around that. Executor-class vessels are at least 17 km long. This is fact. One way to rationalize the "Super Star Destroyer" quotes is to assume that they refer to an entirely different class of vessel.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-07-08 06:35am

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Actually the Vic was a older model for the movies. It was replaced by the Devestator for being an ISD. EU used it as an older version of an ISD (which is true with or without suspension of disbelief)

The VicStar was a concept sketch which WEG adopted as a smaller incarnation of the SD.
As far as I know, Lucas Arts never built a VicStar model or something like that. It was only an old concept sketch WEG reused (the same thing they did with a Corvette concept sketch, that became the Correlian Gunship).

IDMR · Post by **IDMR** » 2002-07-08 07:00am

Doomriser wrote:We don't need the Executor in Ep. III. There is a frightening lack of canon Imperial warships between the sizes of the Imperator and the Executor. Let's see some light and heavy cruisers! A Star Carrier or Battleship like the Giel, or maybe a heavy cruiser like the Shockwave. Maybe a Destroyer Leader like the Alliegiance. Maybe one of those 8km "Super Star Destroyers." (Was Shockwave one of those?) That would help clear up a few things...

Yeah, for some reason everything seems to go straight from the ISD to the SSD...

nitpick On the "8 things I want in ep 3"

nitpick On the "8 things I want in ep 3"

Typhonis 1