Chalk up sucess of YV invasion to NR incompetence?

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-07-18 04:51pm

WTF?!?!!? That is TOTALLY uncalled for!

*Turn to Sith God.* You are a troll. Die, troll. *fires blaster*

*Turns to User099* As for you.... *slaps 099 on the cheek. 099 runs off crying.*

Anyway, I've noticed a problem w/YV technology. Consider the following:

Control Tower: You're coming in too fast!
Y-wing pilot: Oh, crap!
Y-wing hits ground, bounces, then grinds to a stop.
---------------
Control Tower: You're coming in too fast!
Coralskipper pilot: Oh, crap!
SPLAT......

Darth Gojira · Post by **Darth Gojira** » 2002-07-23 08:05am

IG-88E wrote:Thracken, Han's cousin? Thracken Sal-Solo? He was in the Corellian Trilogy. In NJO, Anakin hesitated to use Centerpoint Station as a strategic weapon. Thracken grabbed the controls and ended up wiping out both a YV fleet and the Hapan fleet!

As to the gun, thanks...I needed that. *Pulls bullet out of head, reloads it. Now then, to business!

I'm with you!!!!! (Picks up axe, tries to find Salvadore's house)

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2002-07-23 10:22pm

IG-88E wrote:And it's not just Chewy! Anakin! Anakin freaking Solo gets killed off! And that lousy goon Thracken gets put in charge of Corellia?!?!?!?

Yep.....New Republic are dumbasses...putting Thracken in charge, the guy who killed how many people?....One can only think that the NR won't make it past this.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-07-24 04:57pm

Actually, the NR is, for most intents and purposes, dead. I mean, the Advisory council consists entirely of anti-Jedi and appeasement advocates. They even tried to kill off the entire Fleet group three! A third of the NR fleet! I just hope the council gets sacrificed or something.

Mr. B · Post by **Mr. B** » 2002-07-24 10:30pm

One thing is for sure. The Empire would have crushed the YV at the Rim and then went on to burn their entire home galaxy to the ground.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-07-24 10:50pm

No, I don't think so, Mr. B. The Empire would have been able to crush their vanguards, but I keep hearing that they have several hundred worldships. I don't know if even the Empire could have stood up to that kind of a force. On the other hand, they would have done better than the NR is doing.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-07-24 10:58pm

Empire has
Better Captial Ships
Better Super-weapons of doom....!
Better Command Structor and Commanders
More Crazy Jedi Masters than you can shake a stick at(*cloning)
Force Blocking Alien Lizards
Under Thrawn at least it had all this nice cool stuff...

NR Has
Two Good Commanders(Who where Imperal Trained, Ibus and Ackbar)
Better Star-Fighters(General speaking)
Umm Luke... And Co.. I guess
The only man able to beat a ripped Shirt Kirk... SOLO!
Planet of da Wookies who saddly don't get out as much as they need to

I'd say the Empire lead by Thrawn right at the begining of TLC could kick Vog arse all the way back to wherever they came from easily
Numerical Advantage is allways a temporarly thing when you have tons of ship-yards and Thrawn to command the ships

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-07-24 11:31pm

Plus, with Thrawn in charge, they never would have stopped building capital ships and designing new models like they did in the NR. He would have built far more ships to throw at the YV. I don't think it would have been an easy victory for him, and I don't think he could have kept the YV out of the galaxy, but I DO think he would have stopped them before they reached the Core worlds, and maybe even prevented them from taking Ithor. After their waves from outside the galaxy had died down, he would have pushed them back straight to the Rim.

willburns84 · Post by **willburns84** » 2002-07-26 09:29am

Yes, the Empire would have utterly crushed the Vong in only a few battles. The naked power of tens of thousands of capital ships with uncounted millions of smaller vessels, not to mention fighter craft.

The Empire has nigh limitless resources to draw upon, both in terms of personnel and materiel with which to feed their colossal war machine. Even if Vong tech was decided to be marginally superior, sheer numbers would eventually crush the Vong. To hell with their worldships. A few ISD's can pound one into oblivion in relatively short order even if there are the ultra retarded black hole shields...

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-07-26 03:03pm

Mr Bean wrote:I'd say the Empire lead by Thrawn right at the begining of TLC could kick Vog arse all the way back to wherever they came from easily
Numerical Advantage is allways a temporarly thing when you have tons of ship-yards and Thrawn to command the ships

No kidding. Thrawn wasted the best of the Pre-Clone Wars troops sent by Palpatine with just six Patrol Boats. How's that for genius?

paladin · Post by **paladin** » 2002-07-26 03:14pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:Actually, the NR is, for most intents and purposes, dead. I mean, the Advisory council consists entirely of anti-Jedi and appeasement advocates. They even tried to kill off the entire Fleet group three! A third of the NR fleet! I just hope the council gets sacrificed or something.

I guess this would be where we could see a new empire raising with Anakin Solo as emperor.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-07-26 03:32pm

Fascinating. I will have meditate on this.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-07-26 09:42pm

I hope the Advisory Council takes Jacen with them, when they go to hell.

BTW, I have heard from some friends of mine (who have a friend....) that the NR IS going to go the way of the Dodo. Actually, I have some friends who would be able to tell me.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-07-26 10:26pm

Nuh-uh. We've lost enough Solos already. Don't give Han something else to not live for.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2002-07-26 10:34pm

Plus to the fact that SW main Chars.. are not immune to that invulnerable thingamajig. Kill off Lando he's practically not written one bit in NJO.

Cyaround,
Jason

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-07-26 10:41pm

No kidding. He's only appeared in Vector Prime.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2002-07-26 11:28pm

Darth Yoshi: He appeared in more than that but he hasnt really done much.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-07-26 11:57pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:No kidding. He's only appeared in Vector Prime.

That's not true. Lando had a moderately important role in SbS, creating the YV droids, attempting to sell them, and later commanding a failed attempt to protect Coruscant.

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2002-07-28 01:36am

The miain problem i think with the New Republics lack of action against the Vong are all the things that were said in this message board put together. All problems can be taken from the non-human species that are in high ranking power in the NR. Just imagine what would happen if Palpatine was still in power and still on a force crusade. There are other problems besides the NR characters. the authors of the NJO seem to give Nom Anor many lives. he should have died many times in the NJO. The only time i was rooting for Borsk was when he knew he was going to die but wanted the Vong to make Tsavong Lah show himself to Borsk so he can blow up the building he was in and kill both him and Lah. I have one other thing to say, i want Boba Fett to show himself in the NJO before its through

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-07-28 01:40am

I think the main problem with Jedi inaction is this:

"Oh my god(s, or no god, depending on which race is talking), they're killing everyone and sacrificing the prisoners to their own gods!"

"Maybe if we're reeeaaaallllly nice to them and just give them the galaxy, then they'll go away."

"Good plan, let's do it without consulting anybody else who might know more about the Yuuzhan Vong than we do, and who might try to talk us out of it!"

But you're right, Tychu, that is a problem.

BTW, welcome to Stardestroyer.net

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-07-28 10:16pm

Master of Ossus wrote:
Darth Yoshi wrote:No kidding. He's only appeared in Vector Prime.
That's not true. Lando had a moderately important role in SbS, creating the YV droids, attempting to sell them, and later commanding a failed attempt to protect Coruscant.

Hey that's right. I totally forgot about SbS. I feel so stupid now.

Darth Gojira · Post by **Darth Gojira** » 2002-08-10 06:41am

Darth Yoshi wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:I'd say the Empire lead by Thrawn right at the begining of TLC could kick Vog arse all the way back to wherever they came from easily
Numerical Advantage is allways a temporarly thing when you have tons of ship-yards and Thrawn to command the ships
No kidding. Thrawn wasted the best of the Pre-Clone Wars troops sent by Palpatine with just six Patrol Boats. How's that for genius?

Not exactly a tactical genius, huh? Thrawn is overrated

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-08-10 01:49pm

The Empire would have defeated the YV easily, as stated in Traitor. Grand Admiral Thrawn likely could have won, had he been able to take over the Galaxy instead of being killed by Ruuk.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2002-08-10 01:57pm

Thawn, overrated? Yeah right! Anybody can make a mistake, and frankly I'd like to have seen any Imperial commander do better! It's only through sheer luck (and Leia, that meddling kid) that the entire galaxy didn't have to bow down and pledge their allegiance to a man named Thrawn!

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-08-10 02:46pm

You don't seem to understand what Thrawn did. He massacred a larger force, made up of ships far more powerful than his own, without casualties. That is an enormous benefit to his forces. It is said that Napoleon might have been worth 10,000 men on the field. Thrawn puts Napoleon to shame. He is clearly a Force magnifier, by as much as ten or even thirty times.

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