Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-18 03:53am
by GuppyShark
NEW EPISODE IS UP.
Anyway, without trying to spoil anything, I predict one character's commentary is going to be lambasted as 'wrong' or 'unbelievable' by the usual suspects, when the obvious explanation - he was lying to fuck with the people he was talking to - will be overlooked for clicks.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-18 11:25am
by Galvatron
Holy shit!
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-18 01:03pm
by Galvatron
Some random musings:
Spoiler
Slave I pursuing an Imperial shuttle was pure eye candy. The Imperial pilot and Cara Dune exchanging taunts with references to the Death Star and Alderaan was good stuff too.
There seems to be some lingering controversy in-universe about whether Boba Fett is a Mandalorian. He doesn't seem to care either way so long as he gets to have his armor.
Including the two fighters that were able to launch and the ones that were visible in the hangar when after the shuttle landed, Gideon's cruiser apparently carried seven in total. I guess that's not too many for a ship that's roughly the size of a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier, but the Wookieepedia seems to disagree.
This episode was probably an even greater demonstration of Luke's abilities than the original trilogy was. He cut through those dark troopers with ease after just one of them nearly murdered the shit out of a hardened Mandalorian warrior.
Bib Fortuna was on Jabba's sail barge when it exploded in ROTJ. Why is he still around?
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-18 01:48pm
by Solauren
Actually, Galvatron
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In regards to Bib Fortuna, we have no proof or even evidence he was on the barge. We saw everyone run when Leia knocked the lights out in Jabba's throne room. We don't see anyone around when Leia kills Jabba, or when Artoo frees her. We don't see him die on screen. As we don't see a massive spray of bodyparts when the skiff explodes, we can assume that at least a few people got off. Like say, Bib Fortuna.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-18 01:49pm
by Galvatron
Fair enough.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-18 04:19pm
by Galvatron
Also worth noting:
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Gideon tried to shoot himself to avoid being taken alive.
Maybe it's a "no shit Sherlock" revelation on my part, but I'm getting the feeling that the Imperial remnants we're seeing are all from COMPNOR (of which the ISB is a division). That might be why they're all fanatically loyal and well-equipped, but absolute dogshit in combat (with the exception of Gideon himself since he clearly has skills).
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-18 05:04pm
by darth_timon
Lots to digest and a good setup for Season Three. Squealed a bit at the end.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-18 07:10pm
by Broomstick
De-aging CFI effects do seem to have improved over time.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-18 11:18pm
by TrekkieJeff2000
Broomstick wrote: ↑2020-12-18 07:10pm
De-aging CFI effects do seem to have improved over time.
It definitely has. I can only imagine what they’ll be capable of in the next 10 years or so. I really love the possibilities this could entail. Today’s episode was an amazing surprise.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 12:08am
by LadyTevar
Was watching with the Brother and Sis-in-law, again. When we saw the X-wing, we all sat up.
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Then the lightsaber, and we started saying "Is it Ahsoka?" "Well, she'd know how to tear up droids."
Sis-in-law spots and points out the single black glove, cueing a round of "No way, would they? Is it really?"
Brother drawled "Never did see Luke as a Counselor (green saber)."
Sis-in-Law "Maybe that's the only crystal he could find?"
"Did he just throw a head and kill that droid?"
"Oh YEAH! Crush that Bastard!"
"Did they get Mark? YES IT"S MARK HAMIL!" And we giggled and grinned and while there were a couple shots his head didn't look quite right the voice was right, and then R2 rolled in. SQUEEE! Did Grogu understand R2? Did he KNOW R2 from the Temple?
And Din took off his helmet, probably the first time Grogu saw his face And Din was CRYING!
Oh, and Din's the Mand'Alore, much to Bo Katan's disgust. I'd not caught that little fact behind why SHE had to have Gideon.
Hehehe.. Bib Fortuna got a little fat off Jabba's profits, I see. Too bad Boba had a score to settle, and Book to start.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Broomstick wrote: ↑2020-12-18 07:10pm
De-aging CFI effects do seem to have improved over time.
It definitely has. I can only imagine what they’ll be capable of in the next 10 years or so. I really love the possibilities this could entail. Today’s episode was an amazing surprise.
They got him for the Voice, that's all that mattered to me
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 12:44am
by Agent Fisher
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Luke had a green saber in ROTJ. But I enjoyed seeing how they treated the Dark Troopers as a serious threat, those Phase Three Dark Troopers were powered armor, not droids, that'd be Phase Two. And I enjoyed seeing Luke show up to save the day.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 12:51am
by Galvatron
LadyTevar wrote: ↑2020-12-19 12:08amThey got him for the Voice, that's all that mattered to me
His voice has changed a lot over the years so I was impressed that he managed to sound like his younger self at a time when he usually just sounds like the Joker to me.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 02:26am
by bilateralrope
I'm hoping Din and Bo Katan can come to some arrangement around the darksaber. Even if it's only ensuring they both survive their fight.
Galvatron wrote: ↑2020-12-18 01:03pmThis episode was probably an even greater demonstration of Luke's abilities than the original trilogy was. He cut through those dark troopers with ease after just one of them nearly murdered the shit out of a hardened Mandalorian warrior.
I don't think the dark trooper was able to hurt Din much. Neither of them had weaponry that could reliably get through the others armor.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 02:32am
by Galvatron
Beskar is super tough, but how much of it really covers his body? The dark trooper could have eventually hit a soft spot that wasn't protected by it.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 04:49am
by Broomstick
bilateralrope wrote: ↑2020-12-19 02:26am
I don't think the dark trooper was able to hurt Din much. Neither of them had weaponry that could reliably get through the others armor.
I think you're discounting the sort of pummeling that occurs when a body is thrown with great force. Getting face-punched by the Dark Trooper was probably an instance where the beskar helmet saved Dinn because the helmet was "braced" against the wall of the corridor and most of the force was probably transmitted through the helmet to the wall. However, the "throw Dinn around like a ragdoll" bits would be imparting a lot of force to Dinn's entire body, and the effects of starting/stopping movement (g forces) could do quite a bit of damage as blunt force trauma. Which is probably why Dinn's armor has a lot of padding. Also, I've heard a theory that Mandalorian armor makes use of inertia dampening technology to reduce impact forces and allow the wearer to survive falls, collisions, etc.
Pretty sure Dinn felt that fight - "oh, that's gonna hurt in the morning!" sort of thing.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
LadyTevar wrote: ↑2020-12-19 12:08amThey got him for the Voice, that's all that mattered to me
His voice has changed a lot over the years so I was impressed that he managed to sound like his younger self at a time when he usually just sounds like the Joker to me.
I read in an article (can't remember which one) that it was digitally altered.
EDIT: Oh, it was Games Radar (but others have also mentioned it): Games Radar
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 01:50pm
by Knife
I was a good episode. Called it with the X wing. That said, de-aged Luke totally hit the uncanny valley for me. Was nice to see him do a death and destruction hallway scene though. The psuedo conflict they build for Bo and Din is silly though. Out of both of them, Din is the 'honorable' one. Nothing against Bo but she's not straight laced. Have Din toss the saber back at Gideon and have her cold cock him immediately and take the damn blade.
Besides which, Bo Katan got the damn thing by Sabine giving it to her. Not only did Sabine give the Darksaber to her, she did it as half a dozen Mando clans pledged allegiance to Katan as the new leader and watched her get the sword.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 03:36pm
by Lord Revan
I'm guessing there's something we're missing there, something that made Mandalorians doubt her as leader or her doubt herself as a leader. Probably something related to how she lost the Darksaber in the first place.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 03:44pm
by Broomstick
Knife wrote: ↑2020-12-19 01:50pm
Out of both of them, Din is the 'honorable' one. Nothing against Bo but she's not straight laced.
And that's exactly why Bo would be a better planetary leader - she's got politician instincts, she can be sneaky, or deceptive, as needed. Din is too honorable to be an effective, long-term leader that has to deal with politics and diplomacy.
Knife wrote: ↑2020-12-19 01:50pmHave Din toss the saber back at Gideon and have her cold cock him immediately and take the damn blade.
Except that Gideon is actually a pretty effective villain and might manage to wreck havoc with it, that's actually a pretty decent idea.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 03:57pm
by Galvatron
He should just drop it on the floor and tell her she can either take it or leave it. If she doesn't pick it up, someone else eventually will.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 05:38pm
by bilateralrope
Or Din and Bo come to a deal. He keeps the Darksaber and officially takes the throne. She is the one actually in charge.
I imagine they would agree a lot. At least until they have retaken Mandalore.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 05:43pm
by Galvatron
It doesn't sound like the kind of thing he'd do for nothing, but she could always bribe him with a new ship and a home for his tribe. I imagine it would be preferable to living in the sewers of Nevarro.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 06:56pm
by LadyTevar
Lord Revan wrote: ↑2020-12-19 03:36pm
I'm guessing there's something we're missing there, something that made Mandalorians doubt her as leader or her doubt herself as a leader. Probably something related to how she lost the Darksaber in the first place.
This sounds far more likely. After all, she was the one in charge when The Purge happened. She probably feels she failed Mandalore horribly.
Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)
Posted: 2020-12-19 07:21pm
by Galvatron
She's already stolen two Imperial cruisers and clearly has plans to liberate Mandalore from whatever occupation forces remains there. She shouldn't need to win the darksaber in a duel if she can retake the planet militarily.
And Din was CRYING! 
