Q99 wrote: ↑2018-01-16 01:32pm
Oh, I know!
Make her a dude, then she wouldn't be called a 'Mary Sue'
Does anyone have any defense of Rey that doesn't involve attacking the people who complain about her? She's a Mary Sue for many demonstrable reasons. She is written like a self-insert fanfic character, which is the very genesis of the term.
Her qualities in TFA are:
She's the best pilot in the movie. (Aside from maybe Poe, we never see them flying ships at the same time.)
She's the best mechanic in the movie.
She's the best shot with a gun in the movie (and makes Finn, a trained soldier, look like a chump. 1-shot 1-kill with a handgun, from half a football field away, on every stormtrooper that enters her field of vision. Literally the first time she uses a gun (we know this))
She's the best melee fighter in the movie (and makes Finn and Kylo look like chumps.)
She knows the most languages out of everyone in the movie (droid and wookiee language. Only Han Solo / C3PO understood Wookiee and only C3PO ever understood droid languages. If you disagree with this, actually watch the older movies.)
She's the most powerful force user in the movie. (And learns to overpower the apprentice of snoke and luke about 1 hour after learning the force exists)
Luke's qualities in ANH are:
He can clean but not necessarily repair droids.
He can't speak any droid language. They buy C3PO specifically because no one can speak droid languages. He can't speak anything but Basic.
He can fly a ship reasonably well, but isn't demonstrated to be any better than any other pilots. (There is 1 scene where Darth Vader is failing to lock weapons on him, but evidently either Luke or Obi was interfering via the force some way.)
He's a terrible shot. (He its a panel on a door and he shoots some security cameras, but that's about it. Leia kills more stormtroopers than him.)
He makes a 1 in a million shot by trusting the force rather than his targeting computer. But he was already lined up to make that shot, it was just 1 second of good instincts that allowed him to succeed and that's with Obi helping him.
Not to mention that Rey's feats outstrip everyone's in TFA in their on fields of expertise.
Better force user than Obi (Compare his mind tricks to her mind tricks/force powers)
Better pilot of the MF than Han (Compare how she and Finn handle some TIE fighters vs Luke, Han, Leia and Chewie)
Better shot with a gun than Han or Leia
Compare how Rey handles getting roughed up by 2 thugs compared to Luke/Obi. Luke folds like wet cardboard, and Obi has to physically maim one of them with his lightsaber to end the fight. Rey just beats the two of them unconscious with her staff. ((I know one of them pulled a gun in ANH... This just raises the question of why Rey even has a staff if guns exist in the star wars universe. She's not a jedi, she's a regular person. She'd get shot to death.))
It's been repeatedly explained why Rey is a Mary Sue and is ridiculously competent at everything and has no flaws. Whereas Luke needs someone to save his ass every 3 seconds, and is insanely privileged compared to Rey (with a loving family, etc) Rey is somehow more knowledgeable than him despite having had no one to raise her, it makes no sense. She should be illiterate. No one taught her how to fight with a staff or repair machines.
People need to be taught things to be able to do them, that's not just a rule of storytelling but patently obvious. Having her be a self taught mechanic/greasemonkey would be one thing, fine, but she's also a self taught pilot, marksman, staff fighter, linguist, swimmer, force user. It's insane.