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Lord Revan wrote:I suspect such a series is fairly standard for any weapon based martial arts, after all it would be easy way to make the student learn the basics in a way that doesn't confuse them. Since Sabine doesn't really know more then very basics of lightsaber combat I suspect that Kanan is teaching the basic training series of Form I until Sabine is good enough with those that she perform the series without thinking and at full speed.

Sure but it's just great to hear it. It's quite possible that the Rebels creators weren't tapping into Eskrima but from other weapons arts and that the eskrimador grandmasters - who themselves do a lot of research and assimilation and absorption (in the case of GM Bobby there and my own GM, they're like sponges) - drew from similar sources so in my case I'm coincidentally witnessing/experiencing something two sources separately, on their own, drew from in the course of their research.

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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Like I said, old-school "Mandalorian-style" mechanically-activated bombs and such would be a nice touch.

Such techno fetishism seems more something UFP would do instead of Galactic Republic/Empire since for all the high tech devices SW still seems to have a fairly bit of simple mechnical tools as well.

Then again thermal detonators are micro-nuclear devices.

My previous posts didn't say that the Imperials never used mechanicals. I just mentioned that Imperial mass production and the galaxy's own standards, due to being used to all other forms of hyper-advanced miniaturized tech being so ubiquitous, might not be be up to snuff to whatever the Mandalorians maintained out of tradition and out of the limitations they faced or whatever.

Like, if a bunch of guys continued making mechanical watches. Swiss watches. While the world went on with digital watches and the remaining non-Swiss watchmaker companies that decided to keep making a few mechanical watches just... lost "it" and their product is not as exquisite as the old stuff that the Swiss continue to make.

True but militaries tend to be very much "what works" and thus you're not likely to loose things like mechnical fuses since they work, also as I stated before these weapons were "scary" enough to intimidate Mandalore to not oppose imperial rule so there's probably more then just "uses mechnical fuse" there, since mandos aren't known to be easily intimidated.

I didn't say they'd lose mechanical fuses in the future. I just meant that the Mandos might have really good ones.

But sure. Yeah, horrific liquidy-adhesivey-explosives like what she did with her paint bombs would work. Or other stuff.

Could her paint bombs have originated as a delivery system for some sort of chemical weapon?

Galvatron wrote:Could her paint bombs have originated as a delivery system for some sort of chemical weapon?

I could see it happening that way. Sabine making something just because she likes the task of building it, and when confronted with the consequences, turned it into something beautiful and rather harmless.

Though I prefer the opposite, Sabine created something meant to incapacitate and the Empire warped it into a brutal weapon.

Heck, no. A child brought up on the WARRIOR WISDOM WAYS of the Mandos? You BET when she was young she was making the most spikey skully shoulderpady IEDs EFPs and IUDs for the Empire and THEN when she saw what that is really like... then you have this Mando running off and making bombs loaded with paint.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Heck, no. A child brought up on the WARRIOR WISDOM WAYS of the Mandos? You BET when she was young she was making the most spikey skully shoulderpady IEDs EFPs and IUDs for the Empire and THEN when she saw what that is really like... then you have this Mando running off and making bombs loaded with paint.

I like this train of thought. Sabine only becomes an artist after seeing what weapons can really do.

She has become ashamed of her words and deeds. She discovered that the truth behind the wise ways of warrior will the Mandalorians practice have resulted in their DEATH STRANDING. Their delusion of bearing the superior genes have shown their entrapment to the memes of Imperial subjugation. By wielding that darksaber she must come to terms with the realization that she must take her people, these warriors, mercenaries and soldiers, to a new home of their own making, where they will no longer be subject to the whims and political manipulations of the galactic powers, where these fighters can forge a peace on their own terms. Attaining a liberty that they have won for themselves. An Outer Haven.

Cortosis Krayt. Fluid Krayt. Solidus Krayt. Decoy Dianoga. Sniper Vornskr. Psycho Acklay.

An LAAT? What's a Republic gunship doing in Hoth.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:An LAAT? What's a Republic gunship doing in Hoth.

It fell out of Dash Rendar's left shoulderpad when he was climbing into his snowspeeder.

Never mind not working now

Huh. The one guy's helmet disappears after she pulls the darksaber.

Well the time elapsed between helmet/not helmet is long enough for the guy to take it off and throw it somewhere off-camera. One wonders why he would do that but it's not necessarily a gaffe.

They got additional CG budget and realized they could animate his face

Thoughts:

- People on jetpacks can fly with spacecraft? Really?
- That's a fortress? It's obviously a lakeside condo.
- Yeah, Sabine, what did you really expect? For your mother to throw away the entire clan at the Empire on just your initiative?
- Yup, that's how they expected it to go.

Zixinus wrote:Thoughts:

- People on jetpacks can fly with spacecraft? Really?

Depends on what the spacecraft is doing at that time, I suppose.
It looks like they were slow and deep in the atmosphere, so why not?

- That's a fortress? It's obviously a lakeside condo.

Indeed.
Maybe the Mandos consider it a fortress because there are Mandos living there?

- Yeah, Sabine, what did you really expect? For your mother to throw away the entire clan at the Empire on just your initiative?
- Yup, that's how they expected it to go.

A horrible plan, saved by the stupidity of the enemy.

Yeah, Saxon's plan was even better.

Hey, let's take five guys, go to the Wren stronghold and betray mama Wren.
What could go wrong?

The thing is that Saxon would have gotten away with it if he didn't decide to be uppity right then and there. He could have had the Jedi, the Darksaber and everything if he decided to just go for Sabine later.

EDIT: To be honest, I'm still unclear how the Darksaber is going to help here. I mean, sure it's a legendary weapon, but Mama has a point: Sabine didn't get it from Maul. Plus, the Empire probably has a noose around very-independent-Mandalore to tighten at any moment and even if they rebel, what then? The thing that is needed is Mandalore not only to get free but stay free.

Zixinus wrote:- That's a fortress? It's obviously a lakeside condo.

It's not like modern US Army "forts" especially resemble what you'd traditionally think a Fort would look like.

AMX wrote:Maybe the Mandos consider it a fortress because there are Mandos living there?

This is probably the case. Some historical reference from Mandalorian "warrior-dom" or whatever.

It'll be interesting to see if Mandalore winds up being one of those fully-independent, openly-rebellious fortress worlds that the Death Star was intended to be used against.

It's not like modern US Army "forts" especially resemble what you'd traditionally think a Fort would look like.

Yeah, but they still have stuff like barbed wire. You would think that a fortress would have more elaborate defences than "a few guys". Unbrakable glass, some gun emplacements, AA, some walls, battledroids walking about, you know. Or even just a few security cameras so people can't creep in.

Zixinus wrote:The thing is that Saxon would have gotten away with it if he didn't decide to be uppity right then and there. He could have had the Jedi, the Darksaber and everything if he decided to just go for Sabine later.

EDIT: To be honest, I'm still unclear how the Darksaber is going to help here. I mean, sure it's a legendary weapon, but Mama has a point: Sabine didn't get it from Maul. Plus, the Empire probably has a noose around very-independent-Mandalore to tighten at any moment and even if they rebel, what then? The thing that is needed is Mandalore not only to get free but stay free.

Let's be honest how many times have the villians in Rebels shot themselves in the foot because they couldn't wait five minutes before betraying an ally.

As for the fortress comment I just assumed that is what Mandalorians called any sort of headquarters.

Zixinus wrote:Thoughts:

- That's a fortress? It's obviously a lakeside condo.

It makes sense when we consider that not so long ago, Satine's faction was in power and making everything they could to pretend all the Mandalorians had abandoned their warrior ways. The government in Sundari may have been able to turn a blind eye to Clan Wren training in armor out in Krownest, but building a full fledged fortification would've been impossible to ignore.

I would bet that Pre Viszla had a similarly swanky and non threatening looking place in Concordia.

Gar Saxon looks like Gary Busey, Y/N?

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