If you could actually comprehend what I said, you may have a point. Since you obviously CAN'T, you don't.
Calling my attitude predictable is the only thing you've seemed to get because I constantly have to deal with idiots like YOU that don't bother to read what I write or just flat out can't understand it. So my attitude is indeed predictable when you can't understand themes and story points that fucking 6 year old kids get.
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Tribble wrote:@ Havok
So let me get your position straight. You feel that Anakin's slaughtering of children was justifiable,
What I said about this...
Havok wrote: It is to Anakin's credit that he even feels bad for them because there was ZERO chance they would grow up to be or do anything different.
Now only a dishonest shit would read that and say, "Havok thinks the slaughtering of children was justifiable."
First, you take it out of the context that I squarely place it in and that is of the sand people kidnapping, torturing, killing, attacking, stealing from the settlers of Tattooine for always.
You also completely ignored that I cited: A: His mother's death. B: His rage fueling the Dark Side in him. C: Being a teenager already prone to bad decision making. D: The fact that you can not separate Anakin the magic user from the magic in this issue because it suits you and makes your stance on the issue more tenable.
Finally, because I am not a fucking moron like you, I can understand in universe motivations and actions and defend and explain them *GASP* even if I don't agree with them.
an isolated incident,
Did he slaughter villages before this? Was his mother tortured to the brink death to die in his arms before this? Was he murdering his way through sand people villages before he met Qui-Gon Jinn? Was he sneaking around as a Jedi wiping out villages behind everyone's back before this? Was there EXTREMELY extenuating circumstances that caused this to happen?
Merriam-Webster wrote:isolated
adjective
: separate from others
: happening just once
: happening in different places and at different times
in·ci·dent
noun
: an unexpected and usually unpleasant thing that happens
By fucking DEFINITION, this was an isolated incident you fucking numb nut.
and that by weeping with Padme for a couple of minutes he cleared himself of any guilt?
What I said about this...
Havok wrote:Anakin has guilt about the sandpeople. He breaks down crying about it. Palpatine practically says "hey dude, remember how guilty you are about the sandpeople?" You think just because he told Padme that he somehow absolved himself of the deed and was guilt free? Geezuz.
Emphasis mine.
I then went on to say...
Havok wrote:Of course he blames Obi-Wan. He blames the whole Order for it. That's the fucking point. What the fuck movie are you watching? They told him to "let go" and basically ignore his dreams, which turned out to be 100% accurate and because of that, his feelings of guilt are transferred to and focused on keeping Padme alive no matter the cost because he is terrified of her dying and feeling what he did when his mother died and DOING WHAT HE DID when his mother died...
Then...
Havok wrote:Anakin's guilt over killing the sand people is DIRECTLY tied to his guilt over not saving his mother when he knew what was happening to her.
Oh and then...
Havok wrote:Have you considered that it is his guilt that causes him to be so impulsive in his attack against Dooku? Or it is his guilt that wants him to fall back and save the clone troopers escorting he and Obi-Wan in the battle of Coruscant? Or, and this is the obvious one, that his guilt drives how he reacts to the dreams about Padme?
His unwavering drive and willingness to do pretty much anything to make sure his dreams about Padme never come true clearly demonstrate a broken and guilt ridden psyche that can easily be traced to his inaction concerning his mother and his over reaction after the fact of her death. All you have to do is pay attention to the movies. Despite what you think of the dialogue or writing, the motivations of the characters are clear as fucking day.
So to recap, after all the above, the what, five or six times I specifically point to Anakin's guilt over the isolated incident on Tattooine involving his slaughtering of the entire sand people village over the death of his mother you say this...
Tribble wrote:So let me get your position straight...
...that by weeping with Padme for a couple of minutes he cleared himself of any guilt?
Am i correct on that?
No Captain Can't Comprehend Words, you are absolutely fucking wrong. So sadly and pathetically wrong.
This above is why you are a fucking idiot. And because you can't even read and comprehend what I wrote, not only that but somehow completely reversed some of it, why in the fuck should I, or anyone else, think your take on the movies is anything other than complete bullshit because you can't comprehend the simple character motivations made for and understood by
children.
Because there is no mention of him telling the Jedi about this. There is no mention of him seeking psychiatric help. In fact, as far as I am aware, this incident is never mentioned again anywhere in the movies. He basically shoved it under the rug and moved on. And you're perfectly fine with that.
And again... deep dark secret that drives a character... my gawd you are so simple.
I'm fine with it in the sense that I understand completely why he did it. I get the motivations. I understand the reasoning. I am more than 4 years old.
Only a dishonest shit like you takes what I wrote about his actions and comes to the conclusion that I am "perfectly fine with that" implying that I AGREE with what he did or would even do the same thing.
And let's just pretend for a second that he did tell the Jedi in order to atone himself. How was that conservation supposed to go?
YODA: In great pain you were, on Tatooine.
ANAKIN: Yes, my master. My mother had been kidnapped, and when I went to go rescue her I was too late. She died in my arms.
YODA: Tragedy, that was.
ANAKIN: Then I slaughtered every single person in the village in a homicidal rage. Maybe that is what you sensed, my Master?
YODA: ...
ANAKIN: And not just the men, but the women and the children too.
YODA: hmmmm... Remedial lessons in Jedi ethics, you need.
And that's the end of that, because he's still a Jedi in the next movie.
And this is reason #3 why you are a fucking moron. That you think that this somehow would actually happen, and/or that Yoda's character would react this way. It shows that you not only haven't watched the prequels, but that you couldn't even comprehend the original movies.
I'm sorry, I guess this is where you and I have an irrevocable difference in opinion here. I cannot view a person as a hero when that person has slaughtered an entire village full of people in a homicidal rage... and then goes on to do worse things. Clearly you have no problems with that, provided that he/she sheds a few tears afterwards. If that works for you, then hey, congratulations. I was just pointing out the area where I thought the Prequels were weakest. For you Anakin's fall worked. For me it didn't. End of Story.
Again, conclusions based on idiocy, not being able to comprehend sentences, and just being a dishonest piece of shit.
You think I need you to stroke my ego? Dude, I want smart people to stroke my ego, not simpletons that are barely on par with little kids. And understand my viewpoint? I think I've shown that not only did you NOT understand my viewpoint, you can barely understand the actions and dialogue in fucking
Star Wars.
And there certainly is some embarrassing going on in this thread, luckily one of the perks of being stupid is that you tend to not realize it, so you shouldn't feel too bad when you read this, because it's obvious, you won't understand it.