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Galvatron wrote: ↑2019-12-28 01:16am I wonder if they even distinguish between the Jedi and the Sith or if they're all lumped together as "sorcerers."

Batman wrote: ↑2019-12-28 02:44pm That was a 'lot' of content for a mere 45 minutes.
Is it me or was Moff Gideon wielding the darksaber there at the end?

Lord Revan wrote: ↑2019-12-28 11:54am

Galvatron wrote: ↑2019-12-28 01:16am I wonder if they even distinguish between the Jedi and the Sith or if they're all lumped together as "sorcerers."

Possible and we've seen only the point of view of one tribe/clan so it's possible that other mando clans (assuming they still exist that is) would be different.

After all we've seen mando who had no problem revealing their faces to strangers, some like Sabine Wren or Satine Kryze prefering going helmetless when use of a helmet wasn't needed, so obviously the "never take of your helmet in front of a living being" rule isn't universal (or at least wasn't during the republic and early imperial eras). Therefore it's possible that other things differ between the clans as well.

Honestly unless they out right show Mandalore as lifeless ruins with all the dome cities destroyed and utterly barren, I prefer to think the empire didn't so much wipe out the Mandalorians as shatter their unity so that you have several independent clans scattered accross the galaxy and possibly Mandalore itself but the clans have no single leader they follow to oppose the empire and very little co-operation possibly even thinking that other surviving clans are "no true mandalorians".

Batman wrote: ↑2019-12-28 02:44pm That was a 'lot' of content for a mere 45 minutes.
Is it me or was Moff Gideon wielding the darksaber there at the end?

Knife wrote: ↑2019-12-28 05:36pm

Lord Revan wrote: ↑2019-12-28 11:54am

Galvatron wrote: ↑2019-12-28 01:16am I wonder if they even distinguish between the Jedi and the Sith or if they're all lumped together as "sorcerers."

Possible and we've seen only the point of view of one tribe/clan so it's possible that other mando clans (assuming they still exist that is) would be different.

After all we've seen mando who had no problem revealing their faces to strangers, some like Sabine Wren or Satine Kryze prefering going helmetless when use of a helmet wasn't needed, so obviously the "never take of your helmet in front of a living being" rule isn't universal (or at least wasn't during the republic and early imperial eras). Therefore it's possible that other things differ between the clans as well.

Honestly unless they out right show Mandalore as lifeless ruins with all the dome cities destroyed and utterly barren, I prefer to think the empire didn't so much wipe out the Mandalorians as shatter their unity so that you have several independent clans scattered accross the galaxy and possibly Mandalore itself but the clans have no single leader they follow to oppose the empire and very little co-operation possibly even thinking that other surviving clans are "no true mandalorians".

Indeed, they're either throwing out CloneWars/Rebel's established stuff from Madalore or just following some fundamentalist group like a Death Watch type clan after the Purge. Since we still don't know what the Purge was/entailed, I feel we're just following a group of fundies in the same super traditional vein as Death Watch but without their insurgent type attitude since an actual Mandalorian planet/nation/ethnic group may no longer exist. Also, I should point out, that according to Clone Wars, Obi was just a kid (teen?) when he ran around with Qui Gon with Satine, the soon to be or just crowned Dutchess of Mandalore. She was on the run due to already having and being part of a more moderate movement for Mandalore and she was a kid, so I'm guessing the movement was a bit older though may not be much. That said, we're looking at 10-15 years prior to Clone Wars and she died 19 bby, so a whole 30 years prior to ANH, Mandalore was moving to a more moderate civilization.

Mando's group may be as old as Death Watch. Just another group who lost during the Mandalorian Civil War and moved off planet or out of the sector to 'practice the old ways' type thing. Mando's group have been split for over a decade when they intervened on what ever planet that was they found Din Dajarin on. Who knows, maybe they'll expand on it in season 2.

What I wonder is how does Mando, Din Dajarin not remember Jedi? The Clone Wars seems pretty baked in his head. Was he so traumatized by the attack and then so brainwashed by his clan as to repress the GAR and Jedi fighting the droids during the time period? Surely his parents talked about it, or his neighbors, or teachers, or friends, or someone.

Knife wrote: ↑2019-12-28 05:36pmWhat I wonder is how does Mando, Din Dajarin not remember Jedi? The Clone Wars seems pretty baked in his head. Was he so traumatized by the attack and then so brainwashed by his clan as to repress the GAR and Jedi fighting the droids during the time period? Surely his parents talked about it, or his neighbors, or teachers, or friends, or someone.

Knife wrote: ↑2019-12-28 05:36pm

Lord Revan wrote: ↑2019-12-28 11:54am

Galvatron wrote: ↑2019-12-28 01:16am I wonder if they even distinguish between the Jedi and the Sith or if they're all lumped together as "sorcerers."

Possible and we've seen only the point of view of one tribe/clan so it's possible that other mando clans (assuming they still exist that is) would be different.

After all we've seen mando who had no problem revealing their faces to strangers, some like Sabine Wren or Satine Kryze prefering going helmetless when use of a helmet wasn't needed, so obviously the "never take of your helmet in front of a living being" rule isn't universal (or at least wasn't during the republic and early imperial eras). Therefore it's possible that other things differ between the clans as well.

Honestly unless they out right show Mandalore as lifeless ruins with all the dome cities destroyed and utterly barren, I prefer to think the empire didn't so much wipe out the Mandalorians as shatter their unity so that you have several independent clans scattered accross the galaxy and possibly Mandalore itself but the clans have no single leader they follow to oppose the empire and very little co-operation possibly even thinking that other surviving clans are "no true mandalorians".

Indeed, they're either throwing out CloneWars/Rebel's established stuff from Madalore or just following some fundamentalist group like a Death Watch type clan after the Purge. Since we still don't know what the Purge was/entailed, I feel we're just following a group of fundies in the same super traditional vein as Death Watch but without their insurgent type attitude since an actual Mandalorian planet/nation/ethnic group may no longer exist. Also, I should point out, that according to Clone Wars, Obi was just a kid (teen?) when he ran around with Qui Gon with Satine, the soon to be or just crowned Dutchess of Mandalore. She was on the run due to already having and being part of a more moderate movement for Mandalore and she was a kid, so I'm guessing the movement was a bit older though may not be much. That said, we're looking at 10-15 years prior to Clone Wars and she died 19 bby, so a whole 30 years prior to ANH, Mandalore was moving to a more moderate civilization.

Mando's group may be as old as Death Watch. Just another group who lost during the Mandalorian Civil War and moved off planet or out of the sector to 'practice the old ways' type thing. Mando's group have been split for over a decade when they intervened on what ever planet that was they found Din Dajarin on. Who knows, maybe they'll expand on it in season 2.

What I wonder is how does Mando, Din Dajarin not remember Jedi? The Clone Wars seems pretty baked in his head. Was he so traumatized by the attack and then so brainwashed by his clan as to repress the GAR and Jedi fighting the droids during the time period? Surely his parents talked about it, or his neighbors, or teachers, or friends, or someone.

Lord Revan wrote: ↑2019-12-28 10:18pm Well one of those Mandos in the Covert was House Wizsla (well it's spelled Wizla for the Covert mando in the credits so it could be different clan/house) who were the primary house in the Death Watch.

Though Prez Wizsla did remove his helmet several times and Clan Wren was also House Wizsla and they seemed to prefer to be helmetless unless they're in combat. So the "no removal of helmets" doesn't seem to be a Death Watch rule though it could be a rule within Death Watch fanaticts that emerged after the siege of Mandalore.

bilateralrope wrote: ↑2019-12-30 10:37pm Also, when did Luke's students die in relation to this series ?