The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)

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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)

Post by Galvatron » 2019-11-29 12:17am

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Did she not realize what The Armor Priestess was? :banghead:
Apparently not, but it didn't stop her from going off on the show's "patriarchy" even after that was brought to her attention.

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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)

Post by RogueIce » 2019-11-29 10:51am

It's dumb. Her thing is that a show must have a female lead, or it's patriarchy. A lone male lead is bad. You can never, ever do that.

A lone female lead is fine though.
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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)

Post by Gunhead » 2019-11-29 12:29pm

Just because Sarkeesian crawled out of her sewer to vomit stupidity upon the world, it's a far cry from a "controversy". Now we should just all look away and let her slither back into the hole she crawled out of to hopefully be forgotten till the end of time.

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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)

Post by Lord Revan » 2019-11-29 02:13pm

The claim the Mandalorians are patriarichal is even more funnier when you consider that unless she died or lost her position before series the current de-facto leader of mandalorians is a woman (Bo-Katan Kryze to be exact) while it's uncertain if she actually holds the title of "man'dalor" or just the authority without the title she seems the closest thing the mandalorians have for a single leader.

Sure that's lore that is far as I know gone unmentioned in the series but it exists and is canon.
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Post by Galvatron » 2019-11-29 03:59pm

Mando could have always taken up Greef's offer and gone to the twi'lek healing baths for some R&R. I bet we'd have seen some more females there.

Now that I'm imagining it, I kinda wish he had.

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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)

Post by Lord Revan » 2019-11-29 06:36pm

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Mando could have always taken up Greef's offer and gone to the twi'lek healing baths for some R&R. I bet we'd have seen some more females there.

Now that I'm imagining it, I kinda wish he had.
Yeah those are the wrong kind of females.

A big problem with people who go looking for "patriarchy" and "controversy" is modern media is that they go ballistic over any female role that doesn't fit into their (possibly self-counterdictory) standards story logic or common sense be damned. Ironically they're probably harming women's rights and limiting good and intresting roles for women due to how limiting those standards they give are.
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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)

Post by LadyTevar » 2019-11-29 10:56pm

Tonight's Episode.

More Samurai/Western influence, as Mando and Cub look for a place to lie low, and find a village in need of heroes. Have to wonder how long that Scout'd been on that world before the bandits found it worked.


HEY! SARKESSIAN AND OTHER STUPID BITCHES! THERE"S A COUPLE STRONG WOMEN IN THIS EPISODE!!!
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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)

Post by FaxModem1 » 2019-11-30 01:06am

Baby Yoda continues to be adorable. And it is odd that the Guild is continually able to track him. ManDadlorian needs to take his son somewhere and get rid of whatever is pinging. If it can just be tuned to a target, one wonders why Vader didn't just tune one to Luke Skywalker in Empire Strikes Back, so I hope it's not that and the kid has a tracker somewhere.
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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)

Post by Lord Revan » 2019-11-30 01:40am

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Baby Yoda continues to be adorable. And it is odd that the Guild is continually able to track him. ManDadlorian needs to take his son somewhere and get rid of whatever is pinging. If it can just be tuned to a target, one wonders why Vader didn't just tune one to Luke Skywalker in Empire Strikes Back, so I hope it's not that and the kid has a tracker somewhere.
Well Luke was a human in galaxy with countless other humans, while the baby is a member of a species so rare we've yet to learn their (in-universe) official name or if they even have one beyond a database index code.

The guild could do a "find every member of this species" scan and get a pretty good guess as to where the baby is, while with Luke there's way too many options to even begin to narrow down the search in a reasonble time since humans seem to be the most common and widespread species in the galaxy.
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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)

Post by Darth Yan » 2019-11-30 03:05am

LadyTevar wrote:
2019-11-29 10:56pm
Tonight's Episode.

More Samurai/Western influence, as Mando and Cub look for a place to lie low, and find a village in need of heroes. Have to wonder how long that Scout'd been on that world before the bandits found it worked.


HEY! SARKESSIAN AND OTHER STUPID BITCHES! THERE"S A COUPLE STRONG WOMEN IN THIS EPISODE!!!
Sarkeesian's a bit of an idiot but I can understand what she's been trying to do

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Re: The Mandalorian Discussion Thread (spoilers and such)

Post by NecronLord » 2019-11-30 09:47am

I have this vision of some hapless bounty hunter tracking the species running into wherever Yaddle's been hiding since Episode 1 and starting some ill advised shit.
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Post by Galvatron » 2019-11-30 02:54pm

For all we know, that's how they acquired the baby in the first place.

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Post by NecronLord » 2019-11-30 03:06pm

If the baby is in fact related to a known jedi I would much rather it be Yaddle than Yoda to be fair.
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Post by Galvatron » 2019-11-30 03:18pm

Could be both: the offspring of a torrid love affair between two Jedi masters. :P

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Post by LadyTevar » 2019-12-02 01:13pm

On Facebook it's been suggested that there's a DNA component to the trackers. If the Empire had access to the child, or to the Jedi Archives of children with Force Talent (which we do know they had one), then the tracker could be based off that information.
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Post by FaxModem1 » 2019-12-02 01:35pm

LadyTevar wrote:
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On Facebook it's been suggested that there's a DNA component to the trackers. If the Empire had access to the child, or to the Jedi Archives of children with Force Talent (which we do know they had one), then the tracker could be based off that information.
If only Vader had some Skywalker DNA.
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Post by Anacronian » 2019-12-02 06:00pm

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Post by NecronLord » 2019-12-03 12:15pm

I am pretty sure they even said there was something genetic about it. The first target I actually thought of was Finn, though.

But if it only tracks the species it might explain why we never see it used on humans.
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Post by houser2112 » 2019-12-03 01:05pm

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But if it only tracks the species it might explain why we never see it used on humans.
The previous episode would debunk that theory, because once it was known that Mando stole the child, everyone's tracker was triggered from him being so close.

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Post by LadyTevar » 2019-12-03 05:01pm

houser2112 wrote:
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NecronLord wrote:
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But if it only tracks the species it might explain why we never see it used on humans.
The previous episode would debunk that theory, because once it was known that Mando stole the child, everyone's tracker was triggered from him being so close.
Was it? Or did they simply 'go live' for the child again?
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Post by Batman » 2019-12-03 05:30pm

Her Ladyship has a point there. Were the actually tracking Mando, or was whatever allows them to track just still active/reactivated on the Yoddler?
The last episode very much indicates the latter because if they were tracking Mando leaving the kid in the fishing village would've been fine.
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Post by LadyTevar » 2019-12-03 10:37pm

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Her Ladyship has a point there. Were the actually tracking Mando, or was whatever allows them to track just still active/reactivated on the Yoddler?
The last episode very much indicates the latter because if they were tracking Mando leaving the kid in the fishing village would've been fine.
If he was after the Mando, he'd had a perfect shot. He moved off the Mando and straight for the Kid. It seems the Mando was the only one with orders to take the bounty alive.
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Post by PREDATOR490 » 2019-12-06 03:33pm

Binge watched 4 episodes.

It is very narrow in scope but that seems to be seriously messing up the pacing and so far the story has been a bit dreary.

The major impression I get from these sort of spin-off properties is that world building is severely reduced either because they are not allowed to use the greater franchise or they have no interest in using the world building already established. At best, it feels like the show is chugging on the fumes of the greater franchise to get wisps of elements that all seem to be very much OT pieces.

For the Mandalorian, it is very sparse on giving much context or explanation of what a 'Mandalorian' or what the 'rules' are. The situation with the armor is a prime example.
At first I thought the armor was meant to be a trophy system where each piece is earned after a mission. However, it seems like it is only limited by access to the special material and he literally ends up walking out with a near-complete set after getting enough of it.
That said, i am a bit dubious on the idea of putting it into the darts. If the material is that rare, making more armor seems more productive than turning it into one-shot super darts.
Even if the darts are super awesome, in the technology of the universe. It should be possible to make 'normal' darts or weaponary to fill that slot.

I am also a bit dubious on the line about wanting a jetpack. The guy has a spaceship and can apparantly cobble it back together despite claiming it needed a full repair facility. Making a jetpack should be trivial by comparisson. If he was to come out with talk about needing the TRAINING to do it... fair enough or if they go back to the concept of having to 'earn' it like some sore of game unlock / upgrade.

I am okay with the style but the story is fairly lack lustre. On the one hand, it is somewhat reasuring this show did not go nuts with the Boba Fett / Mandalorian wank by introducing a character that is awesome at everything however, it seems like they skewed a little to far to the other side.
The guy is meant to be a 'expensive' bounty hunter but so far that praise only seems to work insofar as he is the only one that is midly competent and intelligent.

The appreciation for the greater technology, capabilities and intelligent approach to situation seems to be going down hill in this series.
A journey that was supposed to be impossible - Turns out he could have done it fine.
A ship that got wrecked and needed a specialist facility to repair - Turns out two people can do it just fine.
An AT-ST that can take out entire squads of people and is hyped up as being a big threat - Turns out it gets wrecked just fine, not counting ROJ literally showed them getting wrecked by Ewoks.

The guy literally has access to a spaceship with guns on it. I do not see an AT-ST or the native marauders being able to counter having the ability to just bomb them from the air.

I feel like this show is toeing the line having this Mandalorian be the 'best' bounty hunter by simply being the last one standing / hyped up / shrewed enough to pick the fights he can win. However, the Mandalorian wankage is seeping in with the appeals to them being some sort of super-bad-ass warriors like the Jedi even though the actual witnessed depiction deflates that idea fairly heavily.
It feels like a lot of stuff is being assumed as knowledge or expect the viewer to go off and learn before they can understand Mandalorians. This is a very bad thing to do for a series and it would be better to approach it from a no-knowledge aspect even to the SW franchise as a whole.

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Post by Maximum7 » 2019-12-06 08:43pm

I felt Episode 5 was a little weak.

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I felt Episode 5 was a little weak.
Very weak, especially since I enjoyed 4 so much.
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