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New TV spot on Facebook. We've got a line of dialogue for Blonde Mustache Guy, and he doesn't sound like Biggs at all either.
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Rogue 9 wrote:New TV spot on Facebook. We've got a line of dialogue for Blonde Mustache Guy, and he doesn't sound like Biggs at all either.
Wrong thread, sport. :razz:
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I realized that after the edit window, thanks. :P
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I find interesting how much they continue to develop Maul's character. Also, I never realized that the darksaber was supposed to be the Mandalorian's version of Excalibur.

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I like how subtly they changed him, how they added tiredness, desperation, wisdom and even a little regret. The fury of his is still there but buried deeper. The short trigger he has.

As for the Darksabre, it has to be something. It means a lot if you think about it, because if there is one thing that Jedi do not give up easily is their lightsabres. The Darksabre might have been taken form a Sith too, so managing to pry that from their cold, dead hands is really a sign of Mandalorian warrior spirit.
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I can't help but wonder if they're grooming him for a Vader-like redemption.
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Galvatron wrote:I can't help but wonder if they're grooming him for a Vader-like redemption.
Possibly. I get the sense that he is tired, lonely and not as in-tune with the Dark Side like he once was. His relationship with Ezra might not lead him where he expects it.
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Well, at the end of Visions and Voices he clearly learned that Obi-Wan is on Tatooine (Of course! Where it all began!); meanwhile the Ghost crew says that a world with two suns doesn't narrow it down very much. So either they pull some crazy shenanigans to figure it out, or Maul is riding off into the sunset of an Obi-Wan Kenobi spinoff movie, from which he's unlikely to return.
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It'd be ridiculously disappointing of the current plot line resulted in Maul failing to find Obi-Wan, so from an out-of-universe perspective it's basically a guarantee they'll meet.

And we know Obi-Wan is none the worse for the wear when we first see him in A New Hope, just three in-universe years after Rebels' current point in time.

My only question is whether Maul decides to aggressively attack Obi-Wan (in which case I would bet Maul fails and dies), or whether his weariness and broadened perspective since abandoning Sith teachings leads him to redemption, or at least just leave his dark past behind.

So.. redemption or death.
Or, this being Star Wars... both.

I suppose there are other possibilities, but these seem the most likely.

Anyway, at first I felt that his reintroduction into Rebels was unnecessary clinging to a film favorite badass just for kicks, but I too am really liking where they're taking him. His last words to Ezra before leaving Dathomir really made him a character you can sympathize with.. it looks like he's no longer a typical "bad guy", he's just tired and lonely, and isn't really sure what he wants anymore.. and that's probably because he never had the chance to develop and have a normal life.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Maul finds Obi-Wan living the lonely life of a desert hermit and all the years of hatred and obsession with vengeance simply fade away. They're both broken and defeated old men with no reason to fight each other and it would be a very mature direction for the story to take if Maul realized that.
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That'd be an interesting direction. Star Wars: Grumpy Old Men
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now I got the mental image of Maul and Obi-wan sitting outside of Kenobi's hovel complaining about how things were so much better then they were young and that kids these days have no respect.
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Lord Revan wrote:now I got the mental image of Maul and Obi-wan sitting outside of Kenobi's hovel complaining about how things were so much better then they were young and that kids these days have no respect.

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Lord Revan wrote:now I got the mental image of Maul and Obi-wan sitting outside of Kenobi's hovel complaining about how things were so much better then they were young and that kids these days have no respect.
Sooner or later, Maul might realize that Palpatine is his true enemy and that the enemy of his enemy is his friend. He doesn't necessarily have to be redeemed or "see the light" in order to be pragmatic about that.
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Mid season trailer:

A lot is happening.
 
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Dodonna, Mothma, Organa.
 
Mon's wardrobe got hit hard by the show's budget and Bail got older I think. 
 
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Familiar faces.
 
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Home One and Nebulon-B debut, and I think the earliest canonical apperance.
 
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And the Dornean Gunship, a movie ship that flew under the radar for over 30 years and it took the universe reset for someone to finally notice it.
 
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Red Y-wings, again a simulation or the real things this time?
 
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Sabine's mom I guess. Asian features, like Sabine.
 
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Yularen or Pellaeon? I think Yularen, but because of the smoke I'm not sure if the tunic is white.
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Stardestroyers opening fire :D must have been Tuesday :lol:
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That is looking pretty good to me!

Wonder what we'll get once we hit Yavin territory. Only two years to go,...
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Home One already? The Profundity was supposed to be the first Mon Cal cruiser ready for combat at the time of the Battle of Scarif.

Maybe they used Home One as an unarmed carrier for a while?
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Mustached Imperial officer is unlikely to be Pellaeon, too old. So probably Yularen or a new guy.
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Pellaeon is supposed to be old. From page 1, chapter 1 of HTTE:
Keeping his eyes on the engineering display, Pellaeon waited until he could hear the sound of the approaching footsteps. Then, with all the regal weight that fifty years spent in the Imperial Fleet gave to a man, he straightened up and turned.
Additionally, most of the depictions of him on his Wookieepedia page show him with white hair and a white mustache too.
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Galvatron wrote:Pellaeon is supposed to be old. From page 1, chapter 1 of HTTE:
Keeping his eyes on the engineering display, Pellaeon waited until he could hear the sound of the approaching footsteps. Then, with all the regal weight that fifty years spent in the Imperial Fleet gave to a man, he straightened up and turned.
...the Empire wasn't around 50 years for there to be an Imperial Navy that long? (albeit this is before anybody knew it had only been around twenty-ish years before Endor so Zahn gets a pass there, I suppose)

But I'm not sure the math adds up there.

I'm okay with Pellaeon being in the Clone Wars, say. Perhaps even the Yinchorri Uprising. But the Clone Wars only covered a few years. Then there's twenty-some years of Imperial rule up to Yavin, Endor happens a few years down the road, and in the old canon, the Thrawn Trilogy happens less than ten years after Yavin, so that can't be much more than say thirty, thirty-five years max.

Now if you backdate Pellaeon's career to have him being a Republic Judicial or something along those lines for a couple decades or so before the Clone Wars, then I suppose I can buy that. Wookieepedia says something like that, apparently, so it's not an original concept.
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Yeah, he was retconned along with a lot of other Zahnisms, but he's still supposed to be an older man with white hair and amustache.
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Galvatron wrote:Yeah, he was retconned along with a lot of other Zahnisms, but he's still supposed to be an older man with white hair and amustache.
People can go grey at a fairly young age even in the Star Wars galaxy, I suppose...

So say he was a Republic Judicial for some time before the Clone Wars, served in the Republic Navy then, and became an Imperial officer afterwards. That works well enough, and they did introduce the Chimera when they brought Thrawn in.

Unfortunately not having seen Rebels I can't say whether they've already shown Pellaeon or not... I'm inclined to say the character is Yularen, mostly because most depictions of Pellaeon show him with his hat on while Yularen usually doesn't have a hat.
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Also, Rebels is to some extent a sequel to The Clone Wars, they've brought in a lot of characters from the first show, and Yularen was a recurring guest on that series.

But with Thrawn around now...

Well, it could be either.
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Elheru Aran wrote:Unfortunately not having seen Rebels I can't say whether they've already shown Pellaeon or not...
Why haven't you seen Rebels?
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