Simon_Jester wrote:My impression was that the "Citadel races" don't really have the knowledge base to construct their own mass relays. They never reached the same technological heights as the Protheans, and even the Protheans were barely to the point of being able to build their own mass relays. So the asari and friends might be able to build relays eventually, but it'd be a project involving centuries of R&D.
Or are you not talking about the, uh, protagonist species of Mass Effect here?
Matriarch Aethyta(Liara's father) indicates that it is certainly possible, as she argued that the asari should begin to construct their own mass relays. It is also likely that she was in the loop with respect to the Prothean beacon hidden on Thessia, and so knew more about how exactly it was possible than most.
My initial assumption with the Nexus in Andromeda is that it is a one way mass relay. Apparently it is not.
TheFeniX wrote:The Relays and reliance on Mass Effect pilfered knowledge seems to stunt ME races once they get to the citadel. The Turians had over a thousand years on Humanity when it came to blowing shit up in space and a Pre-Citadel humanity, relying only on what they discovered in Sol, was putting up a fight against them even though taking heavy loses. Not long after signing a peace treaty, they had an embassy on the Citadel and were vying for a council seat. Their Space Navy was only second to the Turians due to Citadel law as Turians were the military front, they were allowed to have more active ships.
It seems to be a case of punctuated equilibrium, in which innovation only occurs when a new race is discovered and brings something new to the table. One reason why the human fleet was so effective is that they did things unconventionally, like building a stealth warship or using fighters that were exempt from treaty limitations more heavily than every other race(an obvious reference to the Washington naval treaty and the development of aircraft carriers in the 1930s). Mass effect technology is something that conveniently makes space fighters effective, along with every other random tech that makes the setting possible.
For all their martial prowess, turians don't seem to understand several elements of warfare that humanity understands intuitively. Garrus argues in favor of using the Normandy as a frontline warship, rather than its vastly more useful function as an intelligence platform, which Wrex points out to him. The turians that released the genophage likewise argued that it was pointless to build a weapon without intending to use it, failing to understand the concept of deterrence that the salarians liked intended it for.
TheFeniX wrote:This was a bit of "Humanity is just awesome" but also telling that there seems to be no real push once you've reached parity with other races, read: stolen all the reaper tech they left for you. Though, a bit of galactic stupidity to put all your eggs in a basket you don't own or even know who DOES own it.
They assume that it was left by the Protheans, as the Reapers ensure that every race assumes it was left by the last dominant race. Javik indicates that his people assumed that the mass relays were left by the race that came before his in the cycle. Though given that no one exactly knows why the Protheans were wiped out, it is rather foolish to assume it is safe.
It is notable that one of the biggest threats to the Reapers is the geth, as they are not evolving on the intended path. Another major threat was the rachni, for the same reasons. It is notable that the Reapers were the ones behind the Rachni Wars, as well as that each new threat requires a new species to solve it, as the old ways of thinking are incapable of meeting that demand. It takes the uplifted krogan to stop the rachni, the upstart turians to stop the krogan, and the upstart humans to stop the geth and Sovereign.
But yes, ignorance is the name of the game. One guy seems to want to study the Keepers (the bugs that keep the Citadel running that the Asari ignored for 3000 years) and he's looked at as a loony. I honestly have to wonder if it's a limited form of indoctrination at work and if certain people/races have an inherent resistance to it. It would explain a lot if humans had a natural resistance and someone like Shepard has a near immunity.
I actually wonder if the council chambers specifically have this effect. shape of the council chambers]Their shape indicates something is wrong.
What is odd is that the Citadel DLC indicates that the Council had no doubt that Shepard was telling the truth, as you see a historical note in the archives that points out that Soverign is a Reaper and not Geth. They were just saving face publicly, because they recognized they had no chance to actually defeat the Reapers.
It also isn't just humans that have a degree of immunity, it is more generally outcasts that have a greater degree of immunity, while the orthodox thinkers are those more easily converted or distracted. Shepard's entire crew is made up of outcasts of one sort or another, which is largely why they are so effective. You have cases like Garrus and his inability to blindly follow orders, Liara's dedication to a narrow field of study that is rare for an asari, especially one so young, or Wrex's unusual degree of strategic intelligence for a krogan.