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Re: Should I try out Star Trek Online?

Posted: 2018-07-06 05:51pm
by The Romulan Republic
It is unfortunate that some people apparently don't understand that adapting something to a different artistic medium inevitably requires substantial changes, no matter how "faithful" to the original work the creators intend it to be.

Re: Should I try out Star Trek Online?

Posted: 2018-07-06 07:44pm
by Lord Revan
The Romulan Republic wrote:
2018-07-06 05:51pm
It is unfortunate that some people apparently don't understand that adapting something to a different artistic medium inevitably requires substantial changes, no matter how "faithful" to the original work the creators intend it to be.
There's also the matter that "screen accurate" even if it was 100% screen accurate wouldn't look the same as it did in the series as the production crew of the series had total control over what they showed the audience and how they showed it. Not mention that field of view on TV camera is much more narrow then the FoV in most games so you get a better picture of just how big a space is with a game.

That said early in STO the devs did go overboard with the upscaling it's something they've admitted themselves too and are slowly downscaling things to a more reasonble scale, the 150% of screen accurate used for the DS9, Intrepid (from the C-store pack) and GCS (again the new special one) interiors. Though I suspect it'll take a while if ever for the 100% Cryptic creations to be changed that scale.

Re: Should I try out Star Trek Online?

Posted: 2018-07-06 08:00pm
by EnterpriseSovereign
Man, I have to rewatch some DS9 episodes to remind myself of the exact scale of the station.

Starship interiors have always been far larger than they need to be, relative to the size of the characters within them. The problem has always been what to do with the camera when you're in the tight confines of a corridor.

Re: Should I try out Star Trek Online?

Posted: 2018-07-09 02:33am
by Lord Revan
EnterpriseSovereign wrote:
2018-07-06 08:00pm
Man, I have to rewatch some DS9 episodes to remind myself of the exact scale of the station.

Starship interiors have always been far larger than they need to be, relative to the size of the characters within them. The problem has always been what to do with the camera when you're in the tight confines of a corridor.
It'll look slightly bigger onscreen, due to the factors I've mentioned, that said STO devs had the official blueprints for the sets (it's something they've mentioned several times) and countless photos so it's unlikely they'd screw up something so obvious as the scale of the sets.

Re: Should I try out Star Trek Online?

Posted: 2018-07-09 06:23am
by bilateralrope
Lord Revan wrote:
2018-07-09 02:33am
EnterpriseSovereign wrote:
2018-07-06 08:00pm
Man, I have to rewatch some DS9 episodes to remind myself of the exact scale of the station.

Starship interiors have always been far larger than they need to be, relative to the size of the characters within them. The problem has always been what to do with the camera when you're in the tight confines of a corridor.
It'll look slightly bigger onscreen, due to the factors I've mentioned, that said STO devs had the official blueprints for the sets (it's something they've mentioned several times) and countless photos so it's unlikely they'd screw up something so obvious as the scale of the sets.
They put the Klingons, Romulans and most of the Federation in the beta quadrant. When DS9 constantly referred to them as Alpha Quadrant powers. If they can get the main factions in the wrong quarter of the galaxy, I wouldn't put it past them to screw up the scale of sets.

Re: Should I try out Star Trek Online?

Posted: 2018-07-09 05:20pm
by Elheru Aran
bilateralrope wrote:
2018-07-09 06:23am
Lord Revan wrote:
2018-07-09 02:33am
EnterpriseSovereign wrote:
2018-07-06 08:00pm
Man, I have to rewatch some DS9 episodes to remind myself of the exact scale of the station.

Starship interiors have always been far larger than they need to be, relative to the size of the characters within them. The problem has always been what to do with the camera when you're in the tight confines of a corridor.
It'll look slightly bigger onscreen, due to the factors I've mentioned, that said STO devs had the official blueprints for the sets (it's something they've mentioned several times) and countless photos so it's unlikely they'd screw up something so obvious as the scale of the sets.
They put the Klingons, Romulans and most of the Federation in the beta quadrant. When DS9 constantly referred to them as Alpha Quadrant powers. If they can get the main factions in the wrong quarter of the galaxy, I wouldn't put it past them to screw up the scale of sets.
*shrugs* to a large degree they redrew the old Trek map to accommodate the game, where at least in the initial storyline, Klingons are in another expansionist phase and the Romulans have also spread all over the place. The stuff with the Dyson Sphere, the Undine, and Iconians added in the Delta Quadrant, and now they've brought in the Gamma with the Dominion. Redrawing the map can be excused as, I dunno, a re-calibration of the old Federation star charts or whatever.

The sets are a more egregious problem that have been a thing since the start. We are talking shuttles with a 20-foot-tall interior... to a degree you can't really avoid some distortion because of the third-person camera settings, but come on.

Re: Should I try out Star Trek Online?

Posted: 2018-07-09 05:30pm
by Crazedwraith
bilateralrope wrote:
2018-07-09 06:23am
They put the Klingons, Romulans and most of the Federation in the beta quadrant. When DS9 constantly referred to them as Alpha Quadrant powers. If they can get the main factions in the wrong quarter of the galaxy, I wouldn't put it past them to screw up the scale of sets.

That's not unique to STO, background material has put the Klingons and Romulans in the Beta Quadrant for ages. There are even some references
in canon
admittedly mostly in newer works.

Re: Should I try out Star Trek Online?

Posted: 2018-07-18 02:11pm
by EnterpriseSovereign
Well the Phoenix Prize Pack has made a welcome return, which is going to cause the exchange rate to plummet. While most of my toons have (re)built their refined dil reserves to previous levels that I can buy another thousand or so I'm not going to need anywhere near that many. I just need to work out how many I'll need to fully upgrade my newest Jem'Hadar toon. Said toon has just made it to level 5 in the newest rep, so time to crank out 10 sponsorship tokens so the rest of my roster can benefit.