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 Post subject: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 12:22am
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The Mighty Kerbalistani Space program has finally succeeded in landing a man on the Mün!

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Yes, 0.16 has added EVAs to the mix. The little guys even have their own jet packs (although in the above Comrade Hudlin is jumping!).

Now, there is an autopilot pack called MechJeb that I use, but only because I have a really hard time timing circularizations and injections. It's between the capsule and the 'chute.



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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 02:14am
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Truly, the sacrifice of countless Kerbalistanis has not gone in vain! Whoever said trial and error doesn't work in aerospace?



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JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up

It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 02:24am
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Are there permanent/saved objects in space yet? I'd want to build persistant space infrastructure.

Then blow it up with badly executed launches. Whee.



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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 02:26am
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There are, actually, but no docking yet



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JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up

It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11

Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.

MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.

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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 03:41am
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Damn, I thought this was a thread about Prometheus the movie.



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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 05:23am
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I heard that the persistent infrastructure people had got erased by the latest update. Probably because they had to change all the modules to enable EVAs.

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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 05:30am
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they also resized all the parts because physics were getting wonky with teeeny Kerbals.

This means I will have to redo all my glourious inventions, such as the

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Glourious People's Republic of North Kerbalistan Zig/Zil Combination Munar Probeski!



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JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up

It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11

Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.

MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.

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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 05:32am
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This is a worthy spacetankski. I like that a lot.

...How did you balance it on a rocket?

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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 05:36am
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This is a worthy spacetankski. I like that a lot.

...How did you balance it on a rocket?


The two fuel tanks on the front and back are integral features of the design ;)

Plus I slapped RCS wherever possible to hold the rocket upright with brute force.

It still gets unbalanced when trying to land on the Mun. Needs adjustment. Also more volunteers to put behind the wheel.



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JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up

It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11

Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.

MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.

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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 06:41am
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Has anyone had success with a Single Stage To Orbit spaceplane yet?

I had one that was fairly epic in size, but it kept snapping into pieces on the tarmac no matter how many reinforcing struts I added or more landing gear to create less stress in the fuselage.



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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 08:24am
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I've gotten planes off the runway, but they don't make it far.

Now, here are some of my achievements:

Behold! The mighty Sky Center! (Skylab was already taken, so in true Kerbal spirit, we took the next best thing)

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Jeb, our faithful World Hero, going EVA during the Mun landing:

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Bill tries to bring him back in, just in time to actually land:

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They didn't count on hills, so here they are posing in front of the debris of their trusty R-I:

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Fear not, Raycott Kerman has been sent on a rescue mission!

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Raycott Kerman, Lesser Hero:

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Bill Kerman, hiker:

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(They have to walk ~10km to the other lander)



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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 08:35am
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Imperial528 wrote:
I've gotten planes off the runway, but they don't make it far.


I do in fact possess a streamlined and most efficient design which is capable of (one way) cross-continental flights, and water landings and takeoff (once).

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It is most efficient and has no superfluous features whatsoever! Da! Almost a 10% mission success rate!

The key to having a flyable plane, I find, is simple: angle of attack. Angle the wings slightly upwards, and for the love of Jeb DO NOT EVER TURN OFF THE AUTOPILOT ;)



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JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up

It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11

Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.

MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.

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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 08:43am
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The problem I keep having is that if I try to turn, it rolls out of control 99 out of 100 times. And the 1 that actually turned correctly broke up on landing. :?

And is that a mod part I see? For shame. Also, intakes are ATM just decorative, at least if I recall correctly.



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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 08:50am
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You have to use precise controls (caps lock) and again NEVER EVER turn off advanced SAS.It dampens the maneuvers.

And yeah, that's a rotor from an aerospace pack.



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JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up

It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11

Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.

MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.

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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 10:45am
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I've gotten one plane that was actually stable, but it requires a lot of fiddling to get planes stable in maneuvers. The only one that worked well was a huge disappointment because I like playing around to get things perfect. The only problem is the rudders deciding they need to get involved in rolls, which adds a lot of unwanted yaw. I've mostly been trying to crack Mach 2.5 or so with turbojets and awaiting intakes so I can make a play at building a kerbal SR-71 equivalent. The problem is mostly that going to orbit means aero spikes and they drink fuel and ruin the center of gravity so the plane needs to be built around one. I think the most effective way might be to use turbojets to their ceiling and then turning on the aerospike.



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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 10:51am
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I haven't played with spaceplanes as such, but droptanks are a possibility, and I actually did use them on the JebBoat to extend range when the capsule landed a bit far away.



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JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up

It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11

Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.

MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.

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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 11:00am
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I was kind of figuring on the turbojets being jettisonable, maybe the wings too...

I'll put a parachute on them so they're reusable or something. That's like single stage to orbit, right?



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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 11:05am
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With the right amount of creative accounting, sure!

I mean, parts would fall off anyways, right? So what's the difference? :D



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JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up

It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11

Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.

MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.

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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 02:00pm
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You have to use precise controls (caps lock) and again NEVER EVER turn off advanced SAS.It dampens the maneuvers.

And yeah, that's a rotor from an aerospace pack.


Yeah, I discovered the precise controls after I gave up on planes, lol. I also figured that some designs probably require a locked trim to keep them stable, at least on the pitch. I've read on the forums about the chase camera, and it's apparently very useful. Haven't tried, though.

In fact, most of my hangar creations are jet cars.

Oh, and since someone mentioned the aerospike, it's the greatest rocket motor in the game, at least for first stages. It's extremely efficient and has a nice high thrust, too.



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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 02:28pm
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I just built designs with good natural stability and high rotational inertia. That seemed to work well, except for in the yaw direction. Haven't been able to raise the stability in the yaw direction much with the restrictions imposed by landing gear since I don't have wings and the like providing any damping. Maybe a big tail fin would help. Or three, excuse me while I build a Hawkeye's tail assembly in KSP.



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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-24 02:57pm
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Despite my love of just throwing stuff together, I have manged to at the very least, get a flyable aircraft. Eventually. As is traditional, it achieves flight using nothing more than RAW POWER.
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I'm just installing the v16 update now, we'll see if I can make anything more stable. or even... get to the Mun.

Also built this. Looks nice, needs more POWER. Or possibly wings.
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According to wikipedia, "the Mohorovičić discontinuity is the boundary between the Earth's crust and the mantle."
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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-25 05:52am
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So I installed .16, and it turns out they limited time acceleration in atmosphere to x1.

Yaaaaaay, I guess? The Kerbals are cute when they run around though.



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JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up

It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11

Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.

MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.

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Demonstrating the spirit of adventure we know the Kerbals for I decided to try the least efficient exploration of the north pole ever. Saving money on Toyotas, dog sleds and any of that, we instead used a colossal rocket to loft Bob Kerman into orbit! After orbiting for a bit, we dropped him onto the polar ice caps.

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Now just to walk him back to base. Fuck.



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 Post subject: Re: Kerbal Space Program, Revisited. PostPosted: 2012-07-25 03:03pm
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So I installed .16, and it turns out they limited time acceleration in atmosphere to x1.

Yaaaaaay, I guess? The Kerbals are cute when they run around though.


Time Accel in Atmos did weird things to structural integrity checks. I always had rockets break apart hideously at any accel.



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Time Accel in Atmos did weird things to structural integrity checks. I always had rockets break apart hideously at any accel.


Which is obviously na issue when you're forced to watch fifteen minutes of the capsule deorbiting! :)



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JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up

It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11

Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.

MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.

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