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salm wrote:I´m not really worried all that much about the rendering machine. Well, actually now I am a bit because I´m handling sensitive data but since Windows 10 is going to be a standard OS in this industry there will be some sort of standard way how this is handled. The clients will have to figure out how to handle this.
I´m more worried about Microsoft collecting data about my internet seach habbits and connecting this data with all my other personal data they might get from spying on files on my hdd and apps installed on my computer for marketing and whatever purposes.
Everybody on the internet and their dog knowing what I want to buy is annoying enough the way it is. Marketers getteing even more access to personal data by spying on the OS, the hdd and apps themselves doesn´t sound very desirable. That´s one of the reasons I never bothered to get a smart phone. The privacy invasion is not acceptable and to me looks a bit like Windows 10 is going in this very direction.
Maybe you´re right and simply getting a second computer and running Ubuntu or something on it is the best solution to this problem.

Zaune wrote: For storing really sensitive data, the standard practice for keeping it secure is exactly what I suggested; physically isolating, or "air-gapping", the hardware from the Internet and transferring data to and from it by thumb drive. This is generally considered overkill unless criminal evidence or trade secrets worth six figures are involved, but these days it's frankly the principle of the thing.

Winaero Blog wrote:How to disable Telemetry and Data Collection in Windows 10

Windows 10 now comes with the telemetry feature enabled by default which collects all sorts of user activity and sends it to Microsoft. Unfortunately, Microsoft has provided no way to disable it completely using the Settings app for Home and Pro editions of Windows 10. Only Enterprise users can turn it off. Here is a solution for editions other than Enterprise to disable Telemetry and Data Collection in Windows 10.

As you use Windows 10, Microsoft will collect usage information. All its options are available in Settings -> Privacy - Feedback and Diagnostics.

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There you can set the options "Diagnostic and usage data" to one of the following options, as described by Microsoft:

Basic
Basic information is data that is vital to the operation of Windows. This data helps keep Windows and apps running properly by letting Microsoft know the capabilities of your device, what is installed, and whether Windows is operating correctly. This option also turns on basic error reporting back to Microsoft. If you select this option, we'll be able to provide updates to Windows (through Windows Update, including malicious software protection by the Malicious Software Removal Tool), but some apps and features may not work correctly or at all.

Enhanced
Enhanced data includes all Basic data plus data about how you use Windows, such as how frequently or how long you use certain features or apps and which apps you use most often. This option also lets us collect enhanced diagnostic information, such as the memory state of your device when a system or app crash occurs, as well as measure reliability of devices, the operating system, and apps. If you select this option, we’ll be able to provide you with an enhanced and personalized Windows experience.

Full
Full data includes all Basic and Enhanced data, and also turns on advanced diagnostic features that collect additional data from your device, such as system files or memory snapshots, which may unintentionally include parts of a document you were working on when a problem occurred. This information helps us further troubleshoot and fix problems. If an error report contains personal data, we won't use that information to identify, contact, or target advertising to you. This is the recommended option for the best Windows experience and the most effective troubleshooting.

The usage data monitoring setting can be set to Full out of the box, which is not acceptable for many users. Those users might want to turn off the data collection in Windows 10. This can be done with a Registry tweak. To disable Telemetry and Data Collection in Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro, you need to do the following:

1. Open Registry Editor.
2. Go to the following Registry key:

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HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DataCollection

Tip: You can access any desired Registry key with one click.
If you do not have such a Registry key, then just create it.

3. There you need to create a new a 32-bit DWORD value named AllowTelemetry and set it to 0.

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Now, you need to disable a couple of Windows services. Right click the File Explorer item in Windows 10 Start menu and pick Manage from its context menu:

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Go to Services and Applications -> Services in the left pane. In the services list, disable the following services:

Diagnostics Tracking Service
dmwappushsvc

Double click the mentioned services and pick "Disabled" for the startup type:

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You need to restart Windows 10 for changes to take effect.

Tip: it is a good idea to check out rest of the options in the Settings app - >Privacy.

This should prevent Windows 10 from spying on you. If you have a more elegant solution for this or any questions, feel free to write a comment.

Elheru Aran wrote:So... how exactly does one opt out of the update, or turn it off if it's already scheduled? Because I'm happy with Windows 7 as is, and they probably won't stop updating it for a little while, so I'm pretty good with keeping it right now... my past experience with new Microsoft OSes has been uniformly awful.

Ace Pace wrote:

bilateralrope wrote:Microsoft really likes sharing your Wi-fi password

See this pretty accurate article from Ars Technica on why these chicken little articles are silly.

If you know you're in my Skype contacts list feel free to park in front of my house with your Windows 10 PC. But you'll have to bring your own Wi-Fi, because Wi-Fi Sense won't let you connect to my network. That option is off by default for every network, as you can see by the Not Shared status message under each one.

And you have to very consciously enable sharing for a network. It's not something you'll do by accident.

...

I've been using Windows 10 since last October. And yet none of my networks are available for my friends and contacts to share over Wi-Fi Sense. Why? Because I never enabled sharing for any of those networks.

I could imagine doing so if I was having a party or expecting houseguests and I knew that some of them would be using Windows 10 on a tablet or a phone. It's much more convenient (and secure) for all concerned if I don't have to give them my password and they can just connect automatically.

I could also imagine disabling this feature after the party's over.

If you upgrade to Windows 10, you have the same options. Despite what you read yesterday, Wi-Fi Sense is not a security hole, and no one is going to connect to your network without your permission.

Spread the word. Don't spread FUD.

A FUDding crazy person wrote:Windows Vista includes an extensive reworking of core OS elements in order to provide content protection for so-called “premium content”, typically HD data from Blu-Ray and HD-DVD sources. Providing this protection incurs considerable costs in terms of system performance, system stability, technical support overhead, and hardware and software cost. These issues affect not only users of Vista but the entire PC industry, since the effects of the protection measures extend to cover all hardware and software that will ever come into contact with Vista, even if it's not used directly with Vista (for example hardware in a Macintosh computer or on a Linux server). This document analyses the cost involved in Vista's content protection, and the collateral damage that this incurs throughout the computer industry.

Anacronian wrote:So Microsoft is gonna have a run-in with the EU courts again i guess.

Elheru Aran wrote:So... how exactly does one opt out of the update, or turn it off if it's already scheduled? Because I'm happy with Windows 7 as is, and they probably won't stop updating it for a little while, so I'm pretty good with keeping it right now... my past experience with new Microsoft OSes has been uniformly awful.

Dominus Atheos wrote:

Elheru Aran wrote:So... how exactly does one opt out of the update, or turn it off if it's already scheduled? Because I'm happy with Windows 7 as is, and they probably won't stop updating it for a little while, so I'm pretty good with keeping it right now... my past experience with new Microsoft OSes has been uniformly awful.

You had to have opted-in in the first place, and can opt out by clicking on the white-swedish-flag icon in your notification area, going to it's menu, view confirmation, cancel reservation.

Broomstick wrote:Bullshit. There's no opt-in. Windows downloads that shit in the background when you aren't looking. They'll upgrade you unless you specifically tell them not to do so. You have to opt out, not in, and they don't give you an easy opt out. Which makes me even more suspicious about what the hell is going on here.

Pinjar wrote:It does strike me as creepy but it really shouldn't. Ultimately all they are trying to do is sell us things. With the correct equipment you can even read and manipulate unencrypted flash memory from a significant distance so your nation states security apparatus having easy access to your data and devices is something that they already have and there is no extra capacity being provided by Microsoft. The manipulation of the law is the problem, not Microsoft trying to make money on your data.

Executor32 wrote:

Broomstick wrote:Bullshit. There's no opt-in. Windows downloads that shit in the background when you aren't looking. They'll upgrade you unless you specifically tell them not to do so. You have to opt out, not in, and they don't give you an easy opt out. Which makes me even more suspicious about what the hell is going on here.

Er, no. The reservation app itself is an automatically installed, yes, but getting rid of it permanently is as simple as uninstalling the update that adds it (KB3035583) and then hiding the update in Windows Update.

However, if it automatically downloaded Windows 10 and notified you that the upgrade was all ready to go, then you, your husband, or someone else using your computer opted into it from the reservation app, plain and simple.

Purple wrote:Can anyone link me to an article or something explaining how to get rid of it?

Broomstick wrote:No, it's not. A bunch of other stuff is installed with it and takes up room on your computer.

Broomstick wrote:No, we did not. We most emphatically did not.

Broomstick wrote:

Purple wrote:If anything I predict a lot of people will not be updating from windows 7 until forced.

Oh, the downloaded the "wizard" without asking, loaded a bunch of shit on everyone's computer, and then one day you boot up to a splash screen announcing how wonderful it is that they're upgrading you for free... we killed that dead. Forced? If you aren't careful they'll simply upgrade you without permission.

Ace Pace wrote:

bilateralrope wrote:Microsoft really likes sharing your Wi-fi password

See this pretty accurate article from Ars Technica on why these chicken little articles are silly.

Pinjar wrote:Ultimately all they are trying to do is sell us things.

Simon_Jester wrote:In fact, I'm not sure the Ars Technica article disagrees with the Rock Paper Shotgun article about the facts- just the tone. And the Ars Technica article sort of breezes over what I'd consider to be the biggest single concern- that this system requires Microsoft to keep a database of passwords for basically every lightly-protected wireless network on the planet.

Simon_Jester wrote:We've had some really huge identity theft and so on issues in the past few years, like the OPM incident that basically revealed personal information on everyone who's ever worked for the government. While Microsoft no doubt has pretty good security, it can't be perfect, and there are endless possibilities of someone finding a previously unknown exploit and using it to sneak past their security somehow.

Simon_Jester wrote: What will they want to do next, memorize the passwords to access your bank accounts "to make it easier for you to get your money?"

Beowulf wrote:Microsoft would very much like to get everyone on Windows 10, because the faster it happens, the quicker everyone is on the same codebase, and they have to worry less about vulnerabilities in older versions of windows. That's the point of the free upgrade. All the fancy features that are new in the privacy policy can be turned off: Cortana and Bing integration with search, WiFi Sense, OneDrive (though that's actually from Windows , etc.