Patriotic clothes banned at Middle School

[theski]

OVER FUCKING IMMIGRATION TENSIONS>> FUCK THIS.. I am so tired on NOT FUCKING OFENDING ANYONE... This will be the next Talk radio subject..

Tensions Prompt School To Alter Dress Code
WESTMINSTER, Colo. The immigration debate and recent demonstrations over the issue have led to a change in the dress code for a middle school in Adams County.

Students at Shaw Heights Middle School are no longer allowed to wear anything that is patriotic, including camouflage pants, because they have become a political symbol for a version of patriotism, CBS4 reports.

"It upsets me that we cannot support our troops -- the military," said Kirsten Golgart, an eighth grader who was told she'd be suspended if she didn't change her clothes. "We can't support our country. If we're American, I think we should be proud to be an American."

A letter went home to parents last week that explained for student safety, no clothes were allowed with political messages or flags of any sort.

Myla Shepherd, the principal, said that tensions over the immigration issue were apparent when more than 20 students came to school wearing camouflage jackets and pants, apparently to show what they call their patriotism and American pride.

"We started seeing name calling," Shepherd said. "Safety is my first concern, so I'm going to do things to keep us from getting to a point where anybody is hurt or being suspended for fighting."

She said the dress code alteration diffused the tension immediately.

"I don't think that's a solution, though because you're punishing 400 students because the action of 100," said Eric Golgart, Kirsten's father.

He gathered signatures against the dress code, but the principal said that for safety, freedom of speech can be limited in schools, even as students get involved in the national immigration discussion.

In Longmont, the principal of Skyline High School banned all flags, including the American flag, because of tensions related to immigration reform.

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[Stark]

Camo pants are patriotic? I thought they were emo hipster nonsense.

[theski]

Camo pants are patriotic? I thought they were emo hipster nonsense.

PC run amock

[Brother-Captain Gaius]

The fuck? I wear woodland BDU slacks because I think they look cool, not because it's "patriotic." Though I suppose I can see the argument for issue BDUs and replicas, but how the hell can you even begin to call "concrete jungle" patterns (which are more associated with terrorists and guerillas than soldiers) and the bright-color knockoffs patriotic?

[Darth Wong]

Camo pants are patriotic? I thought they were emo hipster nonsense.

PC run amock

Perhaps you missed the part of the article where they said it was done in response to rising tensions and open hostilities between different groups in the school. Do you attend this school? If different groups were openly screaming at each other in the schoolyard and you were the principal, perhaps you'd think that something should be done too.

I'm so fucking tired of this dipshit teen angst "oh but my clothes are so important to meeeeee!" bullshit. Grow the fuck up, twerps. If I had my way, every goddamned high school in the country would have a uniform. Fucking whiny teen brats.

[theski]

Camo pants are patriotic? I thought they were emo hipster nonsense.

PC run amock

Perhaps you missed the part of the article where they said it was done in response to rising tensions and open hostilities between different groups in the school. Do you attend this school? If different groups were openly screaming at each other in the schoolyard and you were the principal, perhaps you'd think that something should be done too.

I'm so fucking tired of this dipshit teen angst "oh but my clothes are so important to meeeeee!" bullshit. Grow the fuck up, twerps. If I had my way, every goddamned high school in the country would have a uniform. Fucking whiny teen brats.

Mike ,I caught that part.. but christ.. Rising tensions because of clothes.. fuck em..

[Darth Wong]

Mike ,I caught that part.. but christ.. Rising tensions because of clothes.. fuck em..

These are high-school dipshits. It doesn't surprise me at all that clothes could be involved in rising tensions, or that a ban on certain clothing could diffuse those tensions as the principal indicated. There's a reason why I refer to adolescence as "The Stupid Years".

Every time an article like this crops up, go to any webboard where lots of teens hang out and you'll see them wanking to the First Amendment, as if it was ever intended to outlaw dress codes in school. I'm so sick of whiny teen brats; this "self-esteem" and "empowerment" bullshit has gone too far. They need to be put in their fucking place and reminded that adults are the bosses, and they are the fucking wet-behind-the-ears know-nothings that need to be taught how to behave.

[theski]

Mike ,I caught that part.. but christ.. Rising tensions because of clothes.. fuck em..

These are high-school dipshits. It doesn't surprise me at all that clothes could be involved in rising tensions, or that a ban on certain clothing could diffuse those tensions as the principal indicated. There's a reason why I refer to adolescence as "The Stupid Years".

Every time an article like this crops up, go to any webboard where lots of teens hang out and you'll see them wanking to the First Amendment, as if it was ever intended to outlaw dress codes in school.

I defer to your High school dipshits comment.. Nuf said

[Xon]

I'm so fucking tired of this dipshit teen angst "oh but my clothes are so important to meeeeee!" bullshit. Grow the fuck up, twerps. If I had my way, every goddamned high school in the country would have a uniform. Fucking whiny teen brats.

Going to a private school with strict uniforms (tie + business white shirt + pants during winter & black laceup shoes during the summer and business blue short sleaved shirt + shorts during summer ), I've never understood this retarded obession with clothes.

[mingo]

Mike ,I caught that part.. but christ.. Rising tensions because of clothes.. fuck em..

These are high-school dipshits. It doesn't surprise me at all that clothes could be involved in rising tensions, or that a ban on certain clothing could diffuse those tensions as the principal indicated. There's a reason why I refer to adolescence as "The Stupid Years".

Every time an article like this crops up, go to any webboard where lots of teens hang out and you'll see them wanking to the First Amendment, as if it was ever intended to outlaw dress codes in school. I'm so sick of whiny teen brats; this "self-esteem" and "empowerment" bullshit has gone too far. They need to be put in their fucking place and reminded that adults are the bosses, and they are the fucking wet-behind-the-ears know-nothings that need to be taught how to behave.

This is why Darth Wong is our leader, wisdom.

[theski]

Mike ,I caught that part.. but christ.. Rising tensions because of clothes.. fuck em..

These are high-school dipshits. It doesn't surprise me at all that clothes could be involved in rising tensions, or that a ban on certain clothing could diffuse those tensions as the principal indicated. There's a reason why I refer to adolescence as "The Stupid Years".

Every time an article like this crops up, go to any webboard where lots of teens hang out and you'll see them wanking to the First Amendment, as if it was ever intended to outlaw dress codes in school. I'm so sick of whiny teen brats; this "self-esteem" and "empowerment" bullshit has gone too far. They need to be put in their fucking place and reminded that adults are the bosses, and they are the fucking wet-behind-the-ears know-nothings that need to be taught how to behave.

This is why Darth Wong is our leader, wisdom.

and Here all long I thought it was his good looks..

[Plekhanov]

Going to a private school with strict uniforms (tie + business white shirt + pants during winter & black laceup shoes during the summer and business blue short sleaved shirt + shorts during summer ), I've never understood this retarded obession with clothes.

Sometimes the complains about uniform codes do have a point, your uniform seems to allow for the seasons, it pissed me off immensely that boys had to wear trousers all year round at my upper school, we were also supposed to keep our blazers on at all times unless given permission to remove them, though that rule generally wasn’t enforced unless a teacher was in a bad mood. Me & my mates like many boys played football (soccer for those in the US) every break time, needless to say forcing adolescent males to play football in the summer heat in long trousers & on occasion blazers was a recipe for fragrant classrooms.

At my middle school things we even worse boys were still forced to wear trousers all year round and students couldn’t remove their blazers but there girls couldn’t wear trousers at all, even in the depths of winter and were forced to wear skirts or kilts all year round despite a school wide campaign for them to be allowed to wear trousers. The code at that school was incredibly asinine going so far detailing the colours of ribbon (and it had to be ribbon anything elasticated was strictly forbidden) girls could keep their hair under control with.

[Darth Wong]

Yeah right, as if factory uniforms are designed for maximum style and comfort. In life, you will occasionally run into a situation where you are told that you have to wear certain clothes for your employer's sake, not yours. This is called "reality".

[Plekhanov]

Yeah right, as if factory uniforms are designed for maximum style and comfort. In life, you will occasionally run into a situation where you are told that you have to wear certain clothes for your employer's sake, not yours. This is called "reality".

I've never had any problem with dresscodes at work, which generally seem to be fairly relaxed in the UK at the momentanyway, and I didn't really care about the style it was purely a practical thing what with boys overheating in summer and girls freezing their asses off in winter just because they wouldn’t allow boys to wear smart shorts & girls wear smart trousers.

[Darth Wong]

Yeah right, as if factory uniforms are designed for maximum style and comfort. In life, you will occasionally run into a situation where you are told that you have to wear certain clothes for your employer's sake, not yours. This is called "reality".

I've never had any problem with dresscodes at work, which generally seem to be fairly relaxed in the UK at the momentanyway, and I didn't really care about the style it was purely a practical thing what with boys overheating in summer and girls freezing their asses off in winter just because they wouldn’t allow boys to wear smart shorts & girls wear smart trousers.

Oh of course, because those line workers sweating their balls off in the summer heat in dark blue electrically insulated coveralls are just a figment of my imagination. No employer would ever impose uncomfortable clothes on a worker. No sir, no way!

As for girls, they can buy thermal stockings for their legs. See below:

Not that I necessarily support a sexist dress code; personally I feel that girls should be allowed to wear trousers in a dress code. But complaining that the dress-code clothes aren't very comfortable doesn't wring much sympathy out of me.

[SirNitram]

You know, I'm catching a whiff here. A certain aroma, of a specific kind of bullshit. You know, all those outcries of 'Banning christmas' or 'banning the constitution' that turned out to be something far less offensive.

[Prozac the Robert]

Yeah right, as if factory uniforms are designed for maximum style and comfort. In life, you will occasionally run into a situation where you are told that you have to wear certain clothes for your employer's sake, not yours. This is called "reality".

Just because an employer may require you to wear something silly later isn't really a good reason for making you wear something silly at school. The uniform at our school allowed polo-shirt style t-shirts rather than shirt and tie during summer for example, and I don't see how that harmed anyone.

[Darth Wong]

Just because an employer may require you to wear something silly later isn't really a good reason for making you wear something silly at school.

Yes it is. School is supposed to prepare you for life, and our schools are turning out students with waaaaay more fucking attitude than they should have. I've seen kiddies walk into a building and apply for a job while wearing baggy jeans, for fuck's sake. And when they don't get the job, they get pissed off at the company.

[Pax Britannia]

In the UK every school requires you to wear a uniform (to the best of my knowledge) and I would say it never stifled my originality or freedom of expression.

[Zac Naloen]

In the UK every school requires you to wear a uniform (to the best of my knowledge) and I would say it never stifled my originality or freedom of expression.

The point of a school uniform is so that everyone is equal, to prevent bullying because so and so is poorer and can't afford the latest fashions.

[Pax Britannia]

True, however bullying still continues regardless. The only advantage that school uniforms have is cost. It saves parents allot of money if their kids have to look the same day in day out for 18 years than if they had to follow every single trend.

[TaintedLove]

Camo pants are patriotic? I thought they were emo hipster nonsense.

PC run amock

Perhaps you missed the part of the article where they said it was done in response to rising tensions and open hostilities between different groups in the school. Do you attend this school? If different groups were openly screaming at each other in the schoolyard and you were the principal, perhaps you'd think that something should be done too.

excuse me, but we aren't talking about banning rival gang colors. we are talking about forbidding the wearing of this country's national colors because it ticks off people who honor another country's national colors. i realize these are kids and have no clue as to your age so i will tread lightly.

maybe we should play the mexican national anthem at the being of school. is this okay? or at least not play the star spangled banner so as not to upset the immigrants.

to me, this smacks of peace at any price. where do you draw the line?

[Molyneux]

Just because an employer may require you to wear something silly later isn't really a good reason for making you wear something silly at school.

Yes it is. School is supposed to prepare you for life, and our schools are turning out students with waaaaay more fucking attitude than they should have. I've seen kiddies walk into a building and apply for a job while wearing baggy jeans, for fuck's sake. And when they don't get the job, they get pissed off at the company.

The major problem in that situation is that the school exists for the sake of the students. It's there entirely to educate them; it is a small world that revolves around the student body. The companies exist to satisfy their bottom line.

[Lagmonster]

Yes it is. School is supposed to prepare you for life, and our schools are turning out students with waaaaay more fucking attitude than they should have. I've seen kiddies walk into a building and apply for a job while wearing baggy jeans, for fuck's sake. And when they don't get the job, they get pissed off at the company.

Coincidental aside: I was asked to give a little speech at a local high school to explain to teenagers how to impress employers. At one point afterwards, two young girls informed me that my statement about not wearing excessive facial piercings when applying for a job was "bullshit rules that people make up just so they can boss other people around". A touch of sharp insight and thick-headed stupidity rolled in one sentence, that.

[Darth Wong]

Perhaps you missed the part of the article where they said it was done in response to rising tensions and open hostilities between different groups in the school. Do you attend this school? If different groups were openly screaming at each other in the schoolyard and you were the principal, perhaps you'd think that something should be done too.

excuse me, but we aren't talking about banning rival gang colors. we are talking about forbidding the wearing of this country's national colors because it ticks off people who honor another country's national colors. i realize these are kids and have no clue as to your age so i will tread lightly.

So? Who gives a shit exactly which clothes are being banned, if it achieves the desired goal of reducing tensions? You're in school to learn, not to fuck around, pick fights, or put on a fashion show. It's time the whiny teen brat demographic learned to understand that.

maybe we should play the mexican national anthem at the being of school. is this okay? or at least not play the star spangled banner so as not to upset the immigrants.

That's the school vs the students, not one group of students vs another. Apples and oranges, moron. The school is supposed to be able to dictate certain terms to the students; other students, however, cannot.

to me, this smacks of peace at any price. where do you draw the line?

Ah yes, the "where do you draw the line" argument, classic tagline of slippery slope bullshitters.

The major problem in that situation is that the school exists for the sake of the students. It's there entirely to educate them; it is a small world that revolves around the student body. The companies exist to satisfy their bottom line.

You refute your own statement right there. The school is there to EDUCATE them, not to create a forum for their artistic fashion expression.