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Post by phongn » 2003-06-13 12:19pm

Hamel wrote:I had an affair with Hillary in '98
That's absolutely disgusting. :shock: :P
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Post by phongn » 2003-06-13 12:20pm

Steve wrote:I'll vote for our first female President. :)

Condi in '08!
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Rice vs. Clinton would be an interesting matchup in 2008.
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Post by Sea Skimmer » 2003-06-13 12:23pm

weemadando wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote: NO ONE will be able to outspend the lying propaganda of the major media 24/7/365 days brainwashing of "dumb" American that Hillary is the greatest American Women since Madaam Curie.
Tell me that you're being sarcastic. Please, any one tell me that he's being sarcastic or intentionally stupid to make a point.
The democrats have openly admitted that about 25% of the country thinks she's a massive bitch and would never vote for her no matter what she did.
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Post by Beowulf » 2003-06-13 12:37pm

jegs2 wrote:
EmperorMing wrote:Either way the last thing I want to see right now is hilary in the oval office.

Especially since she has been wife to you-know-who.
I have to admit -- that's a nightmare scenario IMO. I seriously wonder if I'd resign my commission if she won the election...
And overnight, the US military collapses, and we get invaded by Canada...
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Post by Hamel » 2003-06-13 12:44pm

phongn wrote:
Hamel wrote:I had an affair with Hillary in '98
That's absolutely disgusting. :shock: :P
I was the one behind her health-care plan

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Post by RedImperator » 2003-06-13 12:56pm

I'd switch my registration to Democrat just to vote against Hillary in the primaries. There are any number of Democrats I'd rather see in the Oval Office instead of her. The only one I can think of who'd be close to being as bad is Lieberman (the only legitimate candidate, I mean--I'd take Clinton over Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi).
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Post by Joe » 2003-06-13 01:23pm

Hamel wrote:
phongn wrote:
Hamel wrote:I had an affair with Hillary in '98
That's absolutely disgusting. :shock: :P
I was the one behind her health-care plan

-->Me<--
Not surprised, that's more influence than most Congressmen got over that plan.
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Post by Ted » 2003-06-13 02:38pm

Beowulf wrote:
jegs2 wrote:
EmperorMing wrote:Either way the last thing I want to see right now is hilary in the oval office.

Especially since she has been wife to you-know-who.
I have to admit -- that's a nightmare scenario IMO. I seriously wonder if I'd resign my commission if she won the election...
And overnight, the US military collapses, and we get invaded by Canada...
Everybody now: Vote For Hilary! Vote For Hilary! Vote For Hilary! Vote For Hilary!
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Post by Axis Kast » 2003-06-13 02:55pm

Initiate Reagan clone #7663A-6. That is all.

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Post by theski » 2003-06-13 04:22pm

4 more years 4 more years :oops: Sorry I thought this was the Regan rally.. Looks at date 2003 WTF I thought this was 1984
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Post by RedImperator » 2003-06-14 01:46am

Ted wrote:Everybody now: Vote For Hilary! Vote For Hilary! Vote For Hilary! Vote For Hilary!
Obviously, it's time to mobilize the VRWC. Inform Glocksman that Camp G. Gordon Liddy is due to recieve a new guest requiring extensive reeducation.
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Post by Glocksman » 2003-06-14 02:41am

Isn't Ted Canadian?

Not that it matters because Camp Liddy is now international in scope.

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Turn yourself in voluntarily and it won't hurt. :twisted:
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Post by Coyote » 2003-06-14 03:36am

"President Condoleeza Rice" has a ring to it.

Sorry folks, but a conservative minority of any race/gender will make the Oval Office before a liberal one. The libs will just be seen as too militant or chip-onna-shoulder-ish to be trusted. Not saying it won't happen someday, but the barrier wil have to be broken by someone who won't present too radical an agenda.

A Black or Woman who is Conservative, believes in God etc... will go down a bit easier than a similar person who also avows atheism and radical ideas like gay marriage, etc, that much of the US is not yet ready to face directly.
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Post by Gil Hamilton » 2003-06-14 03:58am

Except no candidate for President will ever admit to be an athiest, liberal or not. After all, even if the person is a vastly superior candidate for the office, more than a few people will refuse to vote for them becasue they aren't a protestant christian while the other guy is. Likewise, they will never directly make a statement claiming to support gay marriage without a semantic loophole that will allow them to backpedal, for exactly the same reason. The majority of voters have a narrow set of issues that they care about and on the whole don't really care about the best man for the job.
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Post by Enforcer Talen » 2003-06-14 05:14am

isnt that what they said about catholics, not too long ago?
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Post by Cosmic Average » 2003-06-14 01:34pm

There's only been one Catholic president, though, and even then, he won by a very narrow margin.

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Post by Montcalm » 2003-06-14 03:01pm

Cosmic Average wrote:There's only been one Catholic president, though, and even then, he won by a very narrow margin.
You can all start panicking the day a scientologist get the job. :wink:
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Post by Coyote » 2003-06-14 04:02pm

What you say is true, Gil, but for example even when Bill Clinton openly talked about his "Gays in the Military" ideas, with the appropriatre backdoors installed for backpedaling, it was still understood what his agenda really was-- to get gays in the military.

Having a minority candidate will be a sort of psychological hurdle for Americans to overcome. Perhaps not you or me, or most of the folks on this board, but rank-and-file Americns who are not neccessarily prejudiced per se but simply subconsciously used to certain things being certain ways.

When a minority candidate runs on a comfortable, conservative platform and wins, and the world does not go crashing into the sun, then the average Joe Sixpack will realize that there is nothing to worry about and the way will be open to determine future Presidents the good old-fashioned way: by whichever insanely rich person can use rhetoric and propaganda to sway certain corporations to spend billions to get them in office, the better to grease the wheels of special interests.

And it will no longer matter if the top dog is Black, White, Male, Female, etc! Progress! :D :?
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Post by Gil Hamilton » 2003-06-14 04:07pm

It reminds me of the one Simpsons episode set in Bart's vision of the future with Lisa as president.

Lisa: "As the first white, heterosexual female President, it is an honor..."

Implying that one day Americans are just going to elect the most minor minority they can for president one day, when they get over their psychological baggage. :)
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Post by UltraViolence83 » 2003-06-16 11:40pm

If Hillary wins I'll move into the Deep South for four years so her poison won't reach me.
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Post by SPOOFE » 2003-06-17 03:50am

Like Arkansas?
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Post by UltraViolence83 » 2003-06-17 04:15am

More like Texas. Or Louisiana. I'm surprised the Clintons came from the south, actually. They seem more like New York or California libby caterers to me.
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Post by SPOOFE » 2003-06-17 04:56am

Tell a Texan that Texas is part of the "deep South" and you won't be breathing much longer.
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Post by UltraViolence83 » 2003-06-17 05:00am

Yeah, got to elaborate more. Texans consider Texas about (if not more) important the the actual US...
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