Pelosi is worried Trump won't step down voluntarily if 2020 is a close race.

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Re: Pelosi is worried Trump won't step down voluntarily if 2020 is a close race.

Post by The Romulan Republic » 2019-05-30 03:13am

Aether wrote:
2019-05-30 12:58am
The Romulan Republic wrote:
2019-05-25 02:09am

Blah blah blah, I am a whackaloon.
Ok, for the third time start posting links for us all to discuss that supports your mindless fear mongering that D.T. himself, a LOL "substancial" block of the electorate, and perhaps even the government will allow D.T. to retain the Presidency if he loses by a slim margin.

Else you are an arm flailing, fear mongering, nut job. I could care less of your beliefs and suspicions. Back it up or shut the fuck up. :finger:

See you in 2020, or worse case 2024 bro. I will mark this on my calendar.
Trump's authoritarian aspirations and despotic actions are well-established, both on this forum and in public knowledge for anyone who has turned on the news in the last three or four years. Given that, and your needlessly hostile and abusive tone, I do not believe that this demand is made in good faith. I believe that you have already reached a conclusion, that this demand is meant to expose me to ridicule to discredit my arguments by ad hominem, rather than for the purposes of honest debate, and that you will ignore or spin any evidence I provide. Nonetheless, in the interests of presenting the strongest possible case for the existential threat we are facing, here is my evidence.

Evidence that Trump is a dictator, and that he is not likely to respect electoral defeat:

Trump orders his subordinates to refuse all Congressional subpoenas: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 595860002/

Trump declares a state of emergency on the border to do an end run by executive fiat around Congress's constitutional power of the purse (since blocked by a Federal judge as unconstitutional): https://time.com/5595927/judge-halts-trump-border-wall/

Trump declares a state of emergency to do an end-run around Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia and the UAE, just in case anyone thought this was a one-off: https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/24/politics ... index.html

Trump tells the Customs and Border Protection Commissioner that he will be pardoned if he is sent to jail for illegally preventing asylum seekers for entering the US: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/12/politics ... index.html

Trump tells the head of Homeland Security that if he breaks the law in closing the border, he will pardon him: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 450995002/

Trump, when pointedly reminded in the above video that Treason is a death penalty charge, fails to rule out executing FBI officials who investigated him for Treason: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 28556.html

Press Secretary Sarah Sanders says Barr will decide whether to arrest Comey for Treason: https://thinkprogress.org/donald-trump- ... 497dd766d/

Trump gives AG Barr vast powers to declassify any information while investigating the investigations: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... hreat.html

Trump accusing Comey and various other FBI agents who investigate him of Treason (implicitly equating loyalty to the country with personal loyalty to him, and critiquing him to an act of war against America): https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/201 ... ot-vpx.cnn

I will remind you that precisely to prevent the abuse of Treason charges for political purposes, Article III, Section 3 of the Constitutions says "Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort", that the Constitution also says "No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.", and that "enemies" is traditionally defined as countries against which Congress has declared war or authorized the use of force ( https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/a ... ncna848651 ). It would therefore not apply to the FBI even if it had plotted to abuse its power to remove Trump from office or aid Hillary (it didn't), because the US is not and was not at war with the FBI, the Democratic Party, or Hillary Clinton.

Trump refused to say that he'd accept the result in 2016 if he lost:https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/ ... ump-230003

Trump appears to reference a suggestion by conservative religious figure Jerry Falwell Jr. that he should get an extra two years to his term: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/ ... er-1302643

Trump "jokes" about abolishing term limits: https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... -well-give

Trump's former personal attorney and fixer saying under oath that he does not believe Trump will allow a peaceful transition of power: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1QG2ZR
Michael Cohen wrote:“Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020, there will never be a peaceful transition of power,” Cohen said during his closing remarks before the House of Representatives Oversight Committee.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (who is no reasonable person's idea of a radical) expresses concern that Trump will not leave office if 2020 is a close race: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... ave-office

52% of Republicans support postponing the 2020 election: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 555769001/

Trump discusses using the 2nd. Amendment if Hillary wins and appoints Supreme Court judges, and hints at Hillary being assassinated if she didn't have Secret Service protection: https://www.npr.org/2016/09/16/49432871 ... -territory

Among many, many other examples.

There's your evidence. It ain't pretty, but its the truth. Now concede, if you have a shred of integrity or courage at all. Or make excuses for the fascists. Attack those who call them what they are, and be complicit in all of the above, and the worse things that will follow if Trump is not speedily removed from office.

Seriously, tell me I haven't backed up my claims again. Call me a "nut" and a "whackaloon" and say I'm engaging in "mindless fear mongering" again. I fucking dare you.
"I know its easy to be defeatist here because nothing has seemingly reigned Trump in so far. But I will say this: every asshole succeeds until finally, they don't. Again, 18 months before he resigned, Nixon had a sky-high approval rating of 67%. Harvey Weinstein was winning Oscars until one day, he definitely wasn't."-John Oliver: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zxT8CM8XntA

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