The Romulan Republic wrote: ↑2019-05-12 09:43pm
There are an almost infinite number of ways that the situation could go wrong, but suggesting that a Biden Presidency, or a Booker or Harris Presidency, would be as bad as a Trump one does nothing to help. Its not accurate, and all it does is play into Trumper/Kremlin "Both Sides" narratives and Whataboutism, normalize Trump's actions, and encourage voters to stay home or split the vote if a moderate is the nominee.
Ah, got it, you are one of those cranks. I won't bother taking you seriously then.
Hey, which Russian shitpost do you think was the most effective in rigging the election, the shirtless cartoon Bernie that had no words appended to it, or the one of Yosemite Sam standing in front of a Confederate flag ranting about liberals?
Put it this way: If Biden or Harris or Booker wins, they might fuck up, a disaster might happen during their Presidency, and someone even worse than Trump might win in four or eight years. If Trump wins, the US WILL be ruled by a fascist autocrat who can now claim a mandate from the American people, barring a revolution of some sort to remove him from power.
Turn off the MSNBC kid, it is rotting your brain.
Push for someone more progressive in the primaries by all means- that's what I'm going to do.
Lol you said you are backing Buttigieg in another thread you fucking liar.
But if so-called progressives refuse to vote for a moderate nominee, or promote bullshit "Both Sides" narratives that encourage others to do so, and thereby throw the country to Trump, we will not get a second chance. More importantly, the refugee children who are torn from their families, die, or are raped in US custody will not get a second chance. The women who are prosecuted for having a miscarriage or die from an unsafe illegal abortion will not get a second chance. The civilians and soldiers slaughtered if Trump invades Venezeula or Iran or finally goes too far with Kim Jong Un will not get a second chance. The people who starve or lose their homes because they couldn't afford health care will not get a second chance. Instead of maybe having a fascist country in 8 years, we will have a fascist country now.
Everything you just listed was happening under Obama kid. I know, you think that pointing out facts is Russian propaganda, but they are rather stubborn things.
When I see all the old "Both Sides" crap from self-proclaimed progressives bubbling up again, when I can feel the ground swell building to throw the country to Trump and women and minorities to the wolves if a Leftist isn't the nominee again, even after two and a half years of seeing what Trump is, it makes me feel sick to my stomach. And it fills me with rage.
So what? You gonna hold your breath until you pass out?
I expect progressives to back a centrist nominee.
Fuck off you entitled child. You want power, organize. You aren't owed submission.
I expect centrists to back a progressive nominee. The US allied with the fucking Soviets to stop fascism in WW2. The two wings of the Democratic Party can suck it up and work together to stop fascism now. Or we might as well throw in the towel and declare Trump President for Life today.
Great, bend the knee then, since you fucks have shown you can't win against the threat.
Oh wait, you won't do that just because there is a bigger threat? That it's just a rhetorical cudgel, and that politics is still a contest for power?
Wow, whoda thunk?
You're thinking ahead. Good. But long term planning won't mean jack if we get obliterated now. We need to win this fight to stay alive. Then we can worry about winning the next one.
And capping it with the pure condescension of someone who doesn't do the work.
Fuck off kid. Turn off the MSNBC, and go do actual organizing, and build the power you think you are entitled to.