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Anti-gay marriage groups win Taiwan referendum battle

Post by ray245 » 2018-11-24 01:55pm

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TAIPER: Voters in Taiwan backed anti-gay marriage referendums Saturday (Nov 25) in what LGBT activists said was a major blow to the island's reputation as a rights trailblazer.

Taiwan's top court legalised same-sex marriage in May 2017, the first place in Asia to do so, and ruled that it must be brought in within two years, but the government has made little progress in the face of opposition from conservative groups.

A referendum on whether marriage should only be recognised as between a man and a woman in Taiwan's Civil Code won more than seven million votes, while another calling for same-sex unions to be regulated under a separate law gained over six million.

Gay rights activists had proposed that the Civil Code should give same-sex couples equal marriage rights, but only garnered three million votes.

"Pro-family" group the Coalition for the Happiness of our Next Generation said the win was a "victory of all people who treasure family values".

The conservative group also beat gay rights activists on competing referendums about whether LGBT issues should be compulsory on the school curriculum.

"Everyone used every single 'yes' vote to tell the authorities what are the mainstream public opinions," the coalition said.

Jennifer Lu, a spokeswoman for Marriage Equality Coalition Taiwan, said they were saddened by what she described as the "absurd referendums" and blamed government "incompetence" for allowing the anti-gay marriage votes to go ahead.

"The regression of gender equality ... deals the most severe blow to Taiwan's democratic values," she added.

Although the government has made clear the referendum results will not impact the court's original decision to legalise gay marriage, pro-gay campaigners worry that their newly won rights will be weakened.

The court did not specify how it wanted gay marriage to be implemented, leaving room for conservative groups to call for separate regulations.

With all three conservative referendums passing the threshold of 25 per cent of eligible voters, under referendum law the government must take steps to reflect the result.

Ahead of the vote, Amnesty International had urged the government not to "water down" same-sex marriage proposals in the face of a conservative win.

TSAI'S FUTURE IN DOUBT

Tsai and her Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) have faced a mounting backlash over domestic reforms as well as concerns about deteriorating ties with China, which still sees self-ruling Taiwan as part of its territory to be reunified.

Tsai told reporters that she would take "complete responsibility" for the defeat as she resigned as chair of the party.

The KMT, which oversaw an unprecedented thaw with Beijing before Tsai took office in 2016, declared victory in 15 of 22 city and county seats, up from just six going into the election.

The DPP, which had 13 seats, won only six and lost its traditional stronghold in Kaohsiung city for the first time in 20 years.

The Taipei mayoral seat is still to be announced.

Beijing has intensified pressure on Taiwan under Tsai, upping military drills, poaching diplomatic allies and successfully convincing international businesses to list the island as part of China on their websites.

The DPP is traditionally pro-independence and Tsai has refused to acknowledge Beijing's stance that Taiwan is part of "one China", unlike her KMT predecessor Ma Ying-jeou.

Ahead of the vote, Tsai and DPP officials repeatedly accused China of meddling in the lead-up to the elections by operating a "fake news" campaign. Beijing has denied the allegations.

Taiwan's Investigation Bureau also said it is probing Chinese influence on the elections through campaign funding of candidates.

The KMT - which lost the leadership and its majority in parliament two years ago as the public feared it had moved too close to Beijing - framed the election as a vote of no confidence in Tsai ahead of the vote, vowing to boost the economy and promote peaceful relations with China.

Some analysts said the defeat ruled Tsai out as a candidate for the presidency in 2020.

But others said she may still run, in the absence of an obvious successor.

Observers put the results down to anger over pension cuts and labour reforms, including slashing the number of public holidays, as well as concern that tensions with Beijing are damaging local business.

"The defeat certainly harms Tsai's chances in 2020," said Shih Cheng-feng, a political analyst at Taiwan's National Dong Hwa University, who attributed the results to "widespread public discontent" over the domestic reforms.

A referendum proposing to change the name under which Taiwan competes at international sports events that has already angered China was defeated by 5.5 million votes, with 4.6 million in favour.

Source: AFP/nh
It is sad to hear the anti-LGBT groups have won the referendum in Taiwan. Although an anti-LGBT position is still ruled as unconstitutional by Taiwan, so hopefully not all hope is lost.

As for Tsai, it is always going to be a difficult position for her when Trump is elected. Much of her policies depended on Hiliary winning the presidency and leveraging on their personal connection to act as a bulwark against China. This is never going to happen under Trump because he is simply not reliable as an ally.
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Re: Anti-gay marriage groups win Taiwan referendum battle

Post by U.P. Cinnabar » 2018-11-24 02:45pm

America hasn't been reliable as Taiwan's ally since the 70s.
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Re: Anti-gay marriage groups win Taiwan referendum battle

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U.P. Cinnabar wrote:
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America hasn't been reliable as Taiwan's ally since the 70s.
No, but most American presidents are still more reliable than Trump.
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Re: Anti-gay marriage groups win Taiwan referendum battle

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ray245 wrote:
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No, but most American presidents are still more reliable than Trump.
The clapped-out Austin Allegro my dad owned in the early nineties because it was all he could afford after his first divorce was more reliable than Trump.
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Re: Anti-gay marriage groups win Taiwan referendum battle

Post by The Romulan Republic » 2018-11-26 02:08am

Sigh... two steps forward, one step back.
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Re: Anti-gay marriage groups win Taiwan referendum battle

Post by ray245 » 2018-11-26 07:23am

The Romulan Republic wrote:
2018-11-26 02:08am
Sigh... two steps forward, one step back.
One narrative that's really easy for bigots in Asia to play up is the whole notion of LGBT movement being seen/characterise as a "western" thing. The more progressive the west becomes, the easier it is for those people to play up the notion of Asia being culturally different from the west. Until that myth has been deconstructed, I don't think we will see LGBT marriages being accepted (legalised is different from being accepted by the majority of society) in Asia.
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