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Trump is outright threatening more attacks if the media doesn’t stop being mean.
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Well, that was inevitable.
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Speaking of inevitabil, vanity fair did an article how the right is already calling this a “hoax” and a “false flag” attack by liberals (on phone and can’t quote the article right now)

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/10 ... eories/amp
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10 bombs now. Some were in the mail system, others they believe were hand delivered. We don't know which one was photographed but with lack of post stamp, could be a hand delivered one, Soro's or CNN. Seems a couple targets got doubled up on the bombs.
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[quote="Sea Skimmer" post_id=4065726 time=1540423629 user_id=56Why would someone put stamps on a courier delivered package?
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I haven't seen anyone address this, so I'll address it from the symbolism: American flag "Forever Stamps", so "America forever" in Nationalist-think, perhaps. It's part of the message: "have a package with the American flag all over it, before it blows up and kills you, you fake-news, dirty, commie Mooslim."

One has to remember: a good guy with a bomb could have prevented this horrible tragedy[/sarcasm]. Oh, wait, he probably thinks he is that "good guy".
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What’s the over/under on somebody being killed shortly over this? Because I don’t think the escalation is finished.
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FireNexus wrote: 2018-10-25 11:58am What’s the over/under on somebody being killed shortly over this? Because I don’t think the escalation is finished.
I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
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Going by the New York Times, one was sent to Robert De Niro. Either the bomber is targeting critics of Trump, or is somehow trying to emulate the film Taxi Driver.
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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/article220549210.html
Suspicious packages sent to Hillary Clinton, former President Barack Obama, former CIA Director John Brennan, former Attorney General Eric Holder and billionaire George Soros all had one thing in common: the return address was U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz's office in Sunrise.
The target list certainly suggests a Trumper (or group of Trumpers), but it also suggests a very specific kind of Trumper. Given that the targets are pretty much all "establishment"/Centrist Dems and intelligence officials, and that the primary target appears to be Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, I'd put good money on this being a Bernie-or-Buster, though it could very well also be a Trumper (ie, a Bernie or Buster who defected to Trump after Clinton won the Democratic nomination*).

I really hope I'm wrong about that, because the last thing we need is for that division in the Democratic ranks to be torn open again right before the Midterms, or for Trump to be able to point and say (however disingenuously) "A Leftist* did this, proof that Democrats are the mob!" But right now, my money is on a Bernie-or-Buster (or, if one wishes to be conspiratorial, someone trying to make it look like a Bernie-or-Buster). Because it fits the rest of the target list well enough, and frankly, no one else cares about Debbie Wasserman-Schultz at this point. Trump seldom mentions her, at least that I've heard of. The only people, by and large, who hate her specifically enough to send bombs to her are extreme Bernie supporters who are angry over her leadership of the DNC during the 2016 primary.

Also, remember that the last major terrorist attack on US politicians, where a man shot up a Congressional baseball game, was also a Bernie-or-Buster (though in that case one who defected to Jill Stein, and it was a Republican Congressman who he shot).


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Broomstick wrote: 2018-10-25 04:45am
aerius wrote: 2018-10-24 09:05pmAll I'm saying is find that courier and question the shit out of him because he's a possible lead to figuring out who the fuck's doing this shit.
You do realize that the average courier doesn't have a clue what's in the package he/she is delivering? They pick stuff up, take it to the destination, then on to the next package. The courier could give information on who ordered the delivery, but doesn't have to be in on the conspiracy if they're part of a third-party delivery service, like the bicycle couriers you see in big cities, anymore than the postal system needs to be in on the conspiracy.
Plus, the courier that picked up the package may not be the same person that delivered it. I used to work for a courier company that the drivers would pick up envelopes\packages from outside the city core and then drop it off at the hub for the bikers to deliver them. The exception would be if the package was too big for the bikers to deliver or if it was a one hour delivery. This may be the case and if so, it may have come from outside of NYC.
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Also, a courier may not give a damn about the stamps on the package. If that person is like me, they might think that the package was originally intended to be mailed but the sender changed their mind and needed it delivered sooner.

Another thing, the courier may not have any clue as to who the sender is especially if the bomber paid in cash.
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11 of the 12 bombs were mailed while the one sent to Brennan was by courier. I think this one will be the bomber's undoing. Even if the delivery was paid in cash, the courier that picked up the package could tell the police where they picked it up and what the person looked like.
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So the FBI just arrested someone.

But that doesn't mean they got the bomber, or even think they got the bomber as it could be someone they think is an accomplice, no information on this at all. But really, with this many bombs now it was hard to think this person was going to get away with it for long.
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Crossroads Inc. wrote: 2018-10-25 10:12am Speaking of inevitabil, vanity fair did an article how the right is already calling this a “hoax” and a “false flag” attack by liberals (on phone and can’t quote the article right now)

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/10 ... eories/amp
Outside of any tin-foil crack pots that have always existed and perpetuated conspiracy theories, peddling this kind of trash should be an insta-death-kill for one's career. No exceptions.

There are many comments on Yahoo and YouTube that peddle the false flag about the bombs and I want to reject that as simply trolling, but I see family members on Facebook doing the same thing...and it isn't sarcasm.
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One Person In Custody In Suspicious Package Case After More Devices Found

October 26, 20182:24 AM ET

Bill Chappell, Carrie Johnson

Updated at 11:34 a.m. ET

Authorities have arrested one person in connection with the wave of suspicious packages sent this week to political enemies of President Trump, the Justice Department said on Friday.

FBI special agents arrested a man in South Florida. Further details about the arrest weren't immediately clear.

FBI and other investigators surrounded a white van in a parking lot in Plantation, Fla., on Friday morning believed to be connected to the case; their inspection was shown live on cable TV and the van was loaded onto a flatbed truck.

A press conference was scheduled for 2:30 p.m. on Friday at the Justice Department in Washington D.C.

The announcement followed the discovery of more packages bound for political foes of President Trump on Friday, including one addressed to Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., and one to former intelligence boss James Clapper.

The recovery of those two envelopes brought the known total to 12 parcels addressed to 10 targets, all of whom are critics or opponents of the president.

The package addressed to Booker was found in Florida, the FBI said; each of the envelopes in the case so far has borne the office of Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz as its return address.

The package addressed to Clapper was bound for CNN's office in New York City — which also received an earlier parcel this week addressed to former CIA Director John Brennan.

Authorities intercepted the Clapper envelope at a mail processing center in Manhattan before it reached CNN. The New York Police Department's bomb squad removed it safely.

None of the suspicious devices included in the envelopes have exploded and so far no one has been hurt. Federal authorities have acknowledged they don't know how many total packages there are and there could be more moving through the mail as the search continues both for the devices and for the person or people who sent them.

Clapper, who is a commentator on CNN, appeared on air to say, "this is definitely domestic terrorism. No question about it in my mind."

Although the evidently homemade potential pipe bombs have not exploded, authorities say they are treating them as "live devices" not "hoax devices," New York City Police Commissioner James O'Neill said Thursday.

Authorities who have discovered the parcels around the country — in New York, outside Washington, D.C., in Florida and in Los Angeles — are sending them to the FBI Laboratory in Quantico, Va., for examination there.

The Sunshine State

At least one of the packages passed through a large U.S. mail sorting facility in Opa-locka, Fla., near Miami, according to multiple reports.

The Miami Herald, citing a federal law enforcement official familiar with the investigation, reports that the package sent from the facility is likely the one that ended up on Wednesday at the south Florida office of U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

That package was originally sent to the office of former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder. It was not delivered and was instead sent to the labeled return address — listed as Wasserman Schultz's office.

Before the package arrived there, the Herald reports it was rerouted through the Opa-locka mail sorting facility.

Federal agents and the Miami-Dade County Police Department searched the facility on Thursday night, according to reports from the Herald, Reuters and The Associated Press. No potentially explosive devices were found, according to reports.

"A search of a postal database suggested at least some may have been mailed from Florida," the AP reports.

Hundreds of thousands of packages pour into the facility every day — it's the size of five football fields, the Herald reports. Miami-Dade Police Department specialists worked at the mail center on Friday morning, the agency said.

The attacks

The packages began to show up on Monday, starting with billionaire George Soros, a major donor to Democrats and Democratic causes.

In addition to Booker, Clapper and Brennan, one package has been addressed to former President Barack Obama, two to former Vice President Joe Biden, one to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, one to former Attorney General Eric Holder and two to Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif. One was also addressed to the actor Robert De Niro, a harsh Trump critic.

De Niro included a political call-out in his statement about the packages on Friday morning.

"I thank God no one's been hurt, and I thank the brave and resourceful security and law enforcement people for protecting us," he said. "There's something more powerful than bombs, and that's your vote. People must vote!"

Trump sounded the same note when he addressed the parcel attacks Friday morning on Twitter.

Trump's use of sarcasm quotes around "bomb" appeared to be an allusion to skepticism voiced by some former investigators and explosives specialists about the devices. As one expert told NPR, the apparently homemade devices look like they might include hazardous materials but not as though they could explode.

Authorities say they're treating the devices as potentially "live" and one of them has been protectively destroyed by an explosive ordnance disposal team in New York.

A wide investigation remains ongoing, with the FBI, the Postal Service and other federal agencies working with state and local authorities.
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You can't pass up a look at the suspect's Van or at least the van towed away by authorities.

Behold the Magabomber Van

His van is SO over the top I suspect it's a fake except there's video of it and it's glorious bumper sticker windows being hauled away.

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And, of course, the false flag hucksters are now claiming Syroc was a leftie political op, because his change in party and the stickers on his van were too recent...

Oy, vey.

I'm honestly surprised he hasn't already been pulled over, as those stickers are blocking his rear view. Then again, Florida...
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Looks like the wasserman Schulz return address was just because she was a local democrat. It’s a return address that the guy prob thought wouldn’t arouse suspicion, since all libruls are part of an evil conspiracy.
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Yeah, I hadn't accounted for the possibility that the bomber was from Schulz's area.

Glad they caught someone. I hope its the right guy, and that if he has accomplices they get their names out of him fast.

They're also discussing whether the bombs were just incompetently designed, or intended to just intimidate and not actually go off. Doesn't matter much either way, really, in terms of the consequences. Its still terrorism.
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The Romulan Republic wrote: 2018-10-26 04:00pm Yeah, I hadn't accounted for the possibility that the bomber was from Schulz's area.

Glad they caught someone. I hope its the right guy, and that if he has accomplices they get their names out of him fast.

They're also discussing whether the bombs were just incompetently designed, or intended to just intimidate and not actually go off. Doesn't matter much either way, really, in terms of the consequences. Its still terrorism.
Have you seen his van? They caught the right guy.
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Just saw it. Its like someone put internet trolling on the side of a van (actually, that's pretty much exactly what it is).
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A Kind soul at the Washington Post broke down the stickers on the entire van
WP Philip Bump wrote:This May 2017 photo provided by Natalie B. Kline and obtained by The Washington Post shows a van parked near a shopping mall in Aventura, Fla. On Oct. 26, federal agents and police officers examined the van in Plantation, Fla., in connection with package bombs that were sent to high-profile individuals who have been critical of President Trump. (Natalie B. Kline) (Natalie B Kline/HO)

By Philip Bump
October 26 at 3:55 PM
News crews arrived at the auto parts store in Florida where authorities arrested mail-bomb suspect Cesar Sayoc, 56, before FBI agents could secure and remove a white van that purportedly belongs to Sayoc. Television cameras obtained images of the van, revealing windows covered with apparent images of President Trump and slogans and rhetoric common among Trump supporters. Mixed in were graphics apparently created by Sayoc himself. Authorities soon covered the van with a heavy blue tarp.

The images spread quickly on social media, with several people indicating that they’d seen — and photographed — the van in the area of Florida where Sayoc lived. Natalie Kline photographed the van in May 2017 and provided photos to The Washington Post.

There are three large windows, two on the driver’s side and one on the passengers' side, covered with images and text. The double doors on the passenger side each had images covering the windows; the doors at the back of the van were covered mostly with text. The only windows without some sort of graphics were the drivers' side window and, presumably, the windshield.

This image, a digitally created collage of images and text, appears on both the rear passenger and middle driver’s side windows.


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It can be seen on the driver’s side in the news photo below. It’s clearly one image repeated in both places, undercutting the assertion by Rush Limbaugh and others that there’s something suspicious about how neatly organized the images are.



A van that was seized during an investigation into a series of parcel bombs is transported to an FBI facility in Miramar, Fla., on Oct. 26 in a still image from video. (WPLG/Local10.com via Reuters) (Handout/Reuters)
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How dare you suggest that the Dear Leader is overweight? Treason!
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Turns out the terrorist suspect was making threatening tweets. They were reported and Twitter didn't find any violation of Twitters rules. Until the guy was arrested and Twitter suddenly changed their mind.

Mail bombing suspect repeatedly threatened Democrats on Twitter
Cesar Altieri Sayoc, the suspect in the nationwide bombing campaign against critics of President Trump, regularly took to Twitter to make thinly veiled death threats against other users and peppered some of the targets with abuse, according to a quick review of an account authorities believe belongs to Sayoc. Twitter initially allowed the posts to remain despite its stated policy barring threats.

Former Vice President Joe Biden, actor Jim Carrey, director and former actor Ron Howard, and the TMZ celebrity news service all received tweets from someone using the handle @hardrock2016 that made thinly veiled threats against their lives. Rochelle Ritchie, a political commentator who tweets under the @RochelleRitchie handle, received a similar tweet warning her that “We have nice silent air boat ride for u here on Everglades swamp. We will see you 4 sure. Hug your loved ones real close every time you leave home.” Similar to the tweets sent to others, the message directed at Ritchie included an image of her and accompanying images of the tarot card for death and TV news coverage purporting to report on a body being recovered from the Everglades.

Five hours, later, Ritchie tweeted that Twitter asked her to disregard the earlier refusal. "We've investigated and suspended the account you reported as it was found to be participating in abusive behavior," company representatives wrote.

Below are images other threatening tweets that Twitter removed only after Sayoc's arrest.

Shortly after Sayoc’s arrest, Ritchie said on Twitter that she had reported the threatening tweet to Twitter, and the site did nothing.

“Hey @Twitter remember when I reported the guy who was making threats towards me after my appearance on @FoxNews and you guys sent back a bs response about how you didn’t find it that serious,” Ritchie tweeted. “Well guess what it’s the guy who has been sending #bombs to high profile politicians!!!!”

Twitter representatives didn’t respond to an email seeking comment for this post and asking why the the company didn’t take down the tweets until now. As this post was being published, Twitter suspended the @hardrock2016 account, which used the name Cesar Altieri.

According to a criminal complaint filed Friday (PDF) by the FBI, the @hardrock2016 account user made some of the same spelling mistakes found on packages containing the bombs and also made criticisms of former president Barack Obama and philanthropist George Soros on Wednesday, two days after a bomb sent to Soros was recovered.

The Washington Post has a much more detailed profile of Sayoc here that, among other things, says the suspect delivered pizzas in a van that was covered in disturbing images, including headless puppets and mannequins, Ku Klux Klan figures, a black person being hung, anti-gay symbols, torchings, and bombings. In much the way Twitter allowed the abusive tweets to remain online, the pizza maker allowed Sayoc to continue working for company, saying he was a dependable worker.
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Re: Bombs Mailed To Obama, Clinton, and CNN Building

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I report comments glorifying or advocating or threatening political violence all the time on Facebook, and I invariably get a message from Facebook that the comments do not violate their standards. These companies are at best utterly incompetent, and at worst deliberately complicit, in my opinion.
"I know its easy to be defeatist here because nothing has seemingly reigned Trump in so far. But I will say this: every asshole succeeds until finally, they don't. Again, 18 months before he resigned, Nixon had a sky-high approval rating of 67%. Harvey Weinstein was winning Oscars until one day, he definitely wasn't."-John Oliver

"The greatest enemy of a good plan is the dream of a perfect plan."-General Von Clauswitz, describing my opinion of Bernie or Busters and third partiers in a nutshell.

I SUPPORT A NATIONAL GENERAL STRIKE TO REMOVE TRUMP FROM OFFICE.
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