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Of course, this advice comes with a heavy heart as well, because moving to live in a different country for like 5-6 years tears down your connection to family, community and your motherland. "MOVE AROUND THE WORLD YOU MOBILE WORKFORCE" is also a capitalistic ploy that tears up families apart, destroys communities, leaves relatives in emotional shambles.
Personally, I think it does more good than harm. The more time people spend outside the community and motherland the grew up in, the more opportunities they have to realise how much of what divides us by nation, ethnicity and location is arbitrary and trivial. And if the capitalists can collaborate on a global scale then so can the workers.
I used to think more good than harm comes from it, too. I have changed my mind. In 3 decades of globalization, the world has gone from bad to worse - a world worker's movement did not come to exist in any meaningful form, unions inside nations are destroyed, social support is curtailed or dismantled, labour standards are degraded wherever companies can push this through.
A multitude of torn-away people roam the globe, searching for job opportunities. The moment they get them, they feel they belong to some sort of elite and start looking down on their former countrymen, espousing the most virulent and xenophobic forms of alien patriotism towards the newfound home. Of course, not all, but I've seen this all too often.
ray245 wrote:Singapore has elements of that system and I was personally affected by such policies. I'm well aware of the negative of such a system, but it's much more preferable than the US education system.
Singapore does not have free education. So not only are your choices locked from very early age, but also you've got to pay for it, usually with family money. Brutal. No need to compare the bad options. I'm more focused on the good ones, hence my comment that Germany's deficiencies are at least justified by the fact education is free of charge.
Broomstick wrote:Oh, please - some families are downright toxic and severing ties to them is essential for a person to have any happiness in life, or to avoid exploitation.
It is also an outlier, Broomstick. You could sever ties to your family even before present days, as you've aptly mentioned yourself. But is not very much preferrable to have a big, loving and caring extended family?
Broomstick wrote:As for "motherland" - if my ancestors hadn't left their motherlands they would have been killed by either famine or war. Certainly, the ones that refused the leave the "motherland" of Russia were obliterated.
Facing war, famine and obliteration is also an outlier situation, which I'm sure you'd agree with me is not normal, neither should such things serve as justification for continous migration pressures, tearing apart communities, settlements, nations and families for the sake of nebulous "workforce mobility" that usually just means new sources of cheap workers for the overlords, when laid out in plain speak.
Broomstick wrote:The problem, of course, is extremes: never letting anyone leave home ever, or forcing everyone to leave home.
Exactly my point. I didn't argue against the ability to leave or travel as such. But being unable to find work near home forces every youth to leave town. Sometimes even leave the country. That shouldn't be normal, but it is and the ruling class propagates the image of "normality" of this.
But I can see, and smell, the bullshit.
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I dunno, some families are closer knit than others. Mine would have minimal issue with one of us living halfway across the world and only visiting home occasionally; my wife's on the other hand would be freaking out about it and insisting that she travel home like every six months. Something like that.
Of course, when you have children in the mix, stuff gets more complicated...
Yes, children, but also parents, grandparents, etc. All the uncles and aunts. They're also people, and many of them value family and fellowship greatly. Sometimes people love each other so strongly that they are literally crying at night because they're apart.
This is why I said the emotional price of migration sometimes is downright horrible. It's the same thing as staying when the family is broken, dysfunctional, abusive instead of loving, caring and supportive, except worse, because you keep blaming yourself for the fact that you left them all...
And a thing called survivor's guilt can be even greater torment, if you know what I mean.