Flagg wrote:God damn you are out of touch with reality. He's not a "defendant" at Fox, he's an "employee". He's only afforded the federal, state, and municipal rights afforded an "employee" along with whatever is in his contract. But as an "employee", if his employer decides that he's violated said contract (I can guarantee he had a morals clause) or even if they want to do it for shits and giggles, as long as none of the rights he is afforded to by the previously mentioned government protections are violated, they can have Bruce, Brock, and Bruno from security pack his shit in a box, and frogmarch the piece of shit to the nearest exit.
If he feels he's been wronged (and I'm sure he does, he's an old privileged white male) then he can by all means sue Fox and get laughed out of court. In fact IIRC, he tried to sue someone once and that already happened.
Go home, Martian.
I think it would be helpful if you actually took time to read all what I have posted. You might have noticed that:
A) I have already acknowledged what others pointed out in that O'Reilly's contract included a clause specifically stating that if new accusations came out and/or Fox became aware of additional ones, he would be fired. Perhaps that clause was part of the settlements?
B) I think that Jub's idea might be a decent one - until matters are concluded in cases like this one, it might be a good idea to suspend a person without pay.
Napoleon the Crown wrote:So let me get this straight... Unless found guilty in a civil or criminal court, all should be forgiven by his employer.
Until an employer is able to prove to at least a civil law standard that the employee had violated their contract and/or some sort of law, absolutely. Though I agree that something like a suspension without pay might be required during the proceedings.
Napoleon the Crown wrote:In such a case, if he just keeps settling out of court does that mean he obviously should keep his job?
Depending on what the conditions on the contract between the parties, what settlement conditions were and who was involved, then potentially yes.
Napoleon the Crown wrote:I mean, he didn't get found guilty in court so we can't just assume that the guy who has settled out of court to the tune of $13 million has maybe been a shit to women.
We the public are free to feel whatever we want. I personally take the view of waiting until after proceedings until throwing stones, but that's up to you. Point being that the Court of Public Opinion is not the same thing as a relationship between an employer and an employee. And the Court of Public Opinion does not equal a court in law.
Napoleon the Crown wrote:What is the truth?
Precisely. As far as I have been able to tell, we don't know the truth
to any sort of reliable degree, and I am very loath to see someone get fired over accusations (though in O'Reilly's case his firing was apparently allowed as that was a specific part of his contract).
Napoleon the Crown wrote:Quit being obtuse. Bill O'Reilly is never going to be found guilty in court because if he thinks there's any sliver of a possibility he'll just settle out of court.
In O'Reilly's case specifically, it has been pointed out that his contract included a clause which could get him fired over simple accusations.
Generally speaking it is also up to the complainant and/or the employer on whether or not to settle. And law enforcement agencies / prosecution should it be a criminal matter. Should someone decide to take it to trial, that's different.
And as I stated before, suspension without pay might be an acceptable middle ground.
Gandalf wrote:Has Bill Cosby even filled that criteria yet?
I'm not sure, I haven't been following that case very closely. IIRC he has been criminally charged in addition to several civil lawsuits.
Gandalf wrote:Hell, OJ Simpson?
OJ Simpson was found being responsible for "wrongful death" civilly, and IIRC he is probably spending the rest of his life in jail for a robbery conviction, so yes?
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