mr friendly guy wrote: ↑2017-07-12 09:47pm
I am going to be generous and assume that because my last sentence somehow got cut of, you misunderstood what I meant. When I say you're bias against democratic countries, I mean that you apply a double standard such that when a democratic country does something wrong, its not treated the same way as when a non democratic does it, even if the scale done by the democratic country is much more vast. That's not to say you give a democratic country a free pass (to your credit you don't), but its not viewed as bad.
Bullshit, go screw yourself with this entirely unsupported opinion of yours. If anything I consider it more worse when a democracy commits atrocities because I hold them to a higher standard.
I mean you are concern about China's territorial ambitions in disputed territory. We see shill articles worried about China starting WWIII in the SCS yet people totally oblivious to the fact right now, the US has more military interventions in countries than China has done in the past 25 years. Aren't these guys worried about the US starting yet another conflict. See what I mean by bias.
Do you agree or not agree that chinese territorial claims are based on claims of the former Chinese Empire and that China has no right to sea areas located closer or right on the doorstep of Vietnam or the Philippines? And if you read my posting history you will surely find me worried about US intervention or the US being led by rabid warmongers. It is not an either or policy.
In any case this is a complete double standards fallacy. Just because I am outraged about something else I cannot be also outraged about a particular issue? Do you realize how you sound?
China's disputes have not led to the deaths of how many Iraqi's now? I think I lost count after a few hundred thousand. Yet we are worried about China. The worry is based a little bit on China's actions, but more on the fact its not "the West" or an ally of the West. We are worried about what a country might do, and not concern about a country doing the same thing right now.
We are worried about both. One does not preclude the other.
Oh BTW, in the vein of how the board mocked the repugnant Jerry Falwell when he died, I really can't give a shit that a shill for the Iraq war is himself being freedomized by liver cancer. This is assuming of course we are both talking about the same person, since you didn't mention what type of cancer this person had.
Liu Xiaobo obviously is wrong about the Iraq War as he is wrong about many things. In any case, we still got a dissident being "freedomized" by the state. And he is just the most recent example. Guess what happened to the leaders of the Hongkong protests? How many times have they been arrested?
This just illustrates my point about bias towards democratic countries. You only care about it, and it becomes horrendous when China does it. When a democratic country does it, meh. Saying both are bad is a little bit late after its rivals have done the same thing don't you think.
I think you will have found that I have consistently blamed both democracies and dictatorships in the past. In fact, I blame the USA more than any other country on this board because as the world leader I hold them to a higher standard. But yeah, I am totally just blaming dictatorships all the time. Ask any of the "patriotic" americans on this board how they feel about my criticism.
In any case, these character attacks have gone on as poor substitutes for arguments for too long.
I mean did you care that more than a decade before China started land reclamation in the Spratly's, Japan tried turning a rock into an artificial island and claiming the EEZ from that? Backed by the US of course. You know, the same questionable legalese trick the US warned China not to try. Lets be honest, you didn't. Did you care when Philippines crashed a ship into a reef to make a poor man's artificial island in the 1990s, or when they did land reclamation in the 1970s. Or how about when Malaysia did it in the 2000s. Nope its only bad when China did it in the 2010s. Saying that both are horrendous is pretty poor cover for the fact that a double standard had been held.
You are again committing false equivalency, to my knowledge neither the Philippines or Japan or Malaysia turned whatever rock/ship into a floating fortress that can be used to attack its neighbours. But lets entertain your spiel for a bit.
I don't think I posted something about those times but I wasn't alive in the 70s and in the 200y I was more busy criticizing the Iraqi war to read much about the china sea - then again I might have commented on it or not, I don't remember clearly. In any case your point is moot, just because somebody does not critizise and keeps up about every shady thing in every state of the world he does not lose the right to criticize a particular thing that is being done now because otherwise nobody would ever be able to write anything on a message board. But hold on - during those times, would you have preferred me focus my limited time on efforts on the Iraqi War or the China sea? I think the answer is obvious to any sensible person.
That's nice, but I was talking about the China replacing the US as leader in the fight against climate change, which was kind of the same thing Mr Uhlmann mentioned in his video. Anyone can see I was specifically mentioning leadership in the fight against climate change and not in regards to other leadership roles the US may currently hold.
Then you missed the point of the video because Uhlmann specifically points out the overall decline of the US and china stepping into that void. He is not just talking about climate change.
