Simon_Jester wrote:And Trump was going around bragging about how he was going to kick Da'esh's ass. But people willfully forget that, because Trump has a way of convincing people it's a good idea to pretend the emperor has no clothes.aerius wrote:Simon_Jester wrote:Hey, remember all those people who said they were going to vote for Trump because they were worried about Clinton antagonizing the Russians in Syria and triggering World War III? I know a few of 'em.
Context. Clinton was guaranteed to escalate shit in Syria and other places, remember that she was involved in starting and/or supporting the regime changes which completely fucked up Libya, Syria, and the Ukraine in the first place. She was cheering for missile strikes on Syria before Trump launched them.You're acting like Trump wasn't obviously a petulant manbaby who would inevitably violate his own rules, either because he threw a tantrum or because he saw a chance to opportunistically profit. It doesn't matter what Trump said, it literally made no goddamn difference because he would cheerfully brag about how he was going to tear down X one day, then how he was going to do X only do it a ton better the next day. In his own mind, Donald Trump’s block tower is the biggest. He does not need a nap or a snack. He has the longest, biggest attention span.Trump claimed he wouldn't continue to fuck shit up in foreign countries, a claim which we now know to be a lie. However, given a choice between a candidate who has and continues to advocate for fucking shit up in the Middle East and pissing off Russia and a person who says he's going to stop that shit (but is probably lying), you take the choice that gives you a less than 100% chance of triggering the event. In short, wanna play Russian Roulette with a revolver with 2 loaded chambers, or a semi-auto with a bullet in the chamber and a full mag? Both choices suck, but gun to your head, which one do you pick?
It's like people went out of their way to elect King Ubu, and now we're running around pretending that he's normal and comparable to sane people who at least comprehend the idea of consequences.
Clinton at least has, and had, the mental capacity to comprehend that "X is a bad idea, we should not do X." Trump lacks this capacity, and therefore no argument of this form bites on him. He's too busy being a narcissistic creep.
Trump has been in the White House for less than three months and he's already antagonized the Russians over Syria. Clinton could hardly have done 'better' at that, gotten it done faster, if she'd tried.
So I would argue that your analogy is a good one, you just plugged it in backwards. Trump was always going to predictably disappoint on every issue, because he was always a lying sociopathic fuck. People knew this about him long before he ran for president. In our Russian roulette analogy, he's the automatic pistol, because he's incapable of not firing every time you test him by pulling the trigger. He will disappoint on every issue. Clinton is the revolver, at worst, because she's at least got the capacity to listen to reason and to act for reasons other than personal aggrandizement.
I flat out posted about recordings made by an author of a Trump biography in 2010 (IIRC, it could have been a year or 2 north or south) that Rachel Maddow played a couple of weeks before the election where Donnie Douchebag was talking to the author. It was mostly President Pussygrabber talking, but the author would ask occasional questions.
Anyway, the guy is such a narcissistic egomaniacal pathological liar. The discussion got to be how in his teens (early 60's, 1962 IIRC) he was in a military academy and not only was he the smartest student with the best grades, he excelled at every sport. He literally flat out said that at this military academy, no matter what the sport (and the author lingered on this because it's fucking gold) was, he was the best.
And when baseball was brought up you, got a glimpse of how out of touch stupid the fucker really is. Not only was Donnie Douchebag the best baseball player at the academy, he was the best baseball player ever. And when asked why he didn't go play in the MLB, he said that "it was the early 60's, this was back before baseball was much of a thing and there was no money in it." Joe DiMaggio? Mickey Mantle? Babe fucking Ruth 30 years before, anyone?
But no, he's not an erratic narcissistic egomaniacal pathological liar so completely out of touch with reality that he can't be bothered to listen to advisors on any subject who don't just tell him what he wants to hear!
But of course the Pre-President Pussygrabber dick-swallowers dismissed it out of hand because of the source, despite Maddow just playing a recording made by an author with Donnie Douchebag's full knowledge and permission.