The sad state of the US

[Thanas]

Spiegel editorial

Megalomania & Small-Mindedness

How America Lost Its Identity

On a frigid January evening one year ago, I was standing in a line of around 1,000 people in Burlington, Vermont, to see Donald Trump. I reported my very first story on the United States in 1991 and had been living in the country since 2013. I thought I knew the country well. But on that evening in January, I realized that I had been mistaken.

Burlington lay under a blanket of snow and next to me in line stood Mary and Tim Loyer, both wrapped in dark-blue parkas. Mary was unemployed and her son Tim had a job at a bar. Both told me they were Bernie Sanders supporters. Tim said he was particularly bothered by the power held by large companies, that the division of wealth was unfair and that people like him no longer had opportunities to improve their lives. It was the anthem of the working class.

When asked what he found attractive about Trump, Tim said: "Bernie and Trump are the only politicians who say what they're thinking and do what they say," as his mother Mary nodded along. Hillary Clinton, by contrast, is corrupt, he said. In an election pitting Trump against Clinton, Tim said he would not vote for Clinton. Again, Mary nodded.

At the entrance, security personnel patted us down and asked if we were planning on voting for Trump. Only those who said yes were allowed to proceed.

When Trump began speaking, a demonstrator stood up and yelled that Trump was a racist. The candidate paused, shook his fist and demanded that security throw the protester out. "Keep his coat. Confiscate his coat," Trump said from the stage. It was 21 degrees Fahrenheit (-6 degrees Celsius) outside. Trump snarled as his fans jumped to their feet hooting and jeering. One was reminded of a lynch mob.

I learned three things on that evening in Burlington: In the fatherland of capitalism, anger with the elite is so vast that even leftists would rather vote for a narcissist billionaire than a veteran of the political establishment. In a country that values freedom of opinion higher than almost any other country in the world, there were now attitude tests prior to admission to political rallies. And many Americans, who are otherwise so polite, lose all restraint when confronted by those who think differently.

Everything that I associated with America seemed no longer to apply on that evening in Burlington. What had happened to this once-proud country?

I found answers to this question on a journey through American society -- to places like Vermont, Maryland, Rhode Island and Virginia. Those are just a few of the places I have visited in the last four years -- places where those symptoms could be seen that together add up to the huge crisis that has gripped America. This self-confident country that has spent decades exporting its values with imperialist hubris has lost its identity. Democratic capitalism no longer works well enough to keep together a country of 325 million people and to guarantee domestic peace.

The United States is not alone in having been struck by this identity crisis: It has also hit the United Kingdom, France, Germany and other countries. But America, where capitalism flourishes to a greater degree than anywhere else, has been hit the hardest of all.

The secret to the country's success was not just that societal cohesion was anchored by one of the most liberal constitutions in the world, but also by the promise of advancement inherent in the American Dream. The result was an extremely powerful country that seemed unlimited in its possibilities. It wasn't always attractive, and sometimes it was downright ugly, but the U.S. was always the country that the rest of the world looked to. America proudly led the way.

The America of today has lost faith in its own superiority. It has become a regressive country that is turning its back on the world. If you leave Washington, D.C., behind and travel through the country, from Alabama to Alaska, you will find that the American Dream has been lost. The country is no longer proudly leading the way.

With his diabolical instinct for the country's political mood, Trump captured this shift on campaign evenings like the one in Burlington, distilling it to a single maxim that warmed the hearts of many in the United States: "America First." Trump epitomizes America's desire for a new identity, he has lit a beacon of hope for the white majority that still makes up two-thirds of the country's population. Many of them have come to feel like foreigners in their own country. More than anything, though, he has promised to return greatness and values to this unsettled and adrift slice of society. That he will "Make America Great Again."

Fort Meade: A Visit to the NSA


The beginning of my time in America coincided with Edward Snowden -- the man who unveiled America's spying machinery, thus embarrassing the entire country -- going underground. It began, in other words, with the American figure who, with the exception of Donald Trump, has dominated the public debate over the last several years more than anyone else. In June 2013, just as we at SPIEGEL were working our way through those Snowden documents that had been made available to us, I sent a request to the White House for an off-the-record interview, just as we do in such situations in Berlin, Paris and elsewhere. The email was read by the White House and by the intelligence agencies, but nothing happened. After the SPIEGEL cover story on the National Security Agency (NSA) made waves around the world, a White House spokesperson admonished that the NSA stories amounted to "unauthorized publications" condemned by the administration. One could also call it freedom of the press.

The game repeated itself the next week. I requested an appointment to discuss the next batch of revelations, but this time, I actually got a response from Caitlin Hayden, who was spokeswoman for the National Security Council at the time: "Our team at the White House does not have time this week to meet on this." SPIEGEL continued publishing stories based on the NSA documents for months, and the rules of the game never changed. It was a demonstration of the arrogance of power.

Several months later, former NSA head Michael Hayden explained to me why I was unable to get an appointment at the White House. Many American journalists can be influenced by applying pressure, he said, but it's more difficult to do so with foreign journalists.

That is how Washington works and that is how Barack Obama and his administration worked. In this city, there is a code of behavior for all involved -- and Washington has become symbolic of an unhealthy, symbiotic intimacy between politics, business and the media.

In the winter of 2013, I finally received an invitation to NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland, an hour's drive from the White House. The agency wanted to talk SPIEGEL out of publishing another NSA story. The glass facade of the NSA headquarters is designed to keep out electromagnetic waves and inside, one of the elevators is reserved exclusively for use by the all-powerful director.

The gentlemen who received me introduced themselves by their first names (Mike and Frank), but the conversation wasn't terribly productive because they were unable to answer most of my questions due to secrecy rules. When Mike spoke, Frank looked at him distrustfully. When Frank spoke, Mike looked at him suspiciously.

The NSA affair put both America's strengths and weaknesses on display. It wasn't just about control, but also about the state's loss of control. The most powerful country on Earth was exposed by a young, idealistic employee who brought to light widespread surveillance.

Today, the scandal seems as though it were from a different century -- the pre-Trump era. In response to Snowden, Obama installed limits to what the intelligence community was allowed to do. Trump, by contrast, has announced a merciless assault on all real and imagined terrorists and has promised to release the country's intelligence agents from all restrictions. It is no longer about individual rights, which Snowden had highlighted, but about the strong state, which Trump has promised.

Washington: On America's Streets

Among Trump's most popular tirades is the one about how American airports are "like from a Third World country." And he's right. American streets are full of holes, its airports exude 1970s charm and every couple of weeks, a tree falls onto the overhead power lines resulting in hourslong outages. Today's America is simultaneously the country of the iPhone and the country of potholes; it isn't just coated by the gloss of the future, but also by the musty odor of the past.

In the four years that I lived in Washington, D.C., I had to replace the tires on my car three times. The first occasion was after I drove through a giant pothole that frost had bored into a park road. The second was the result of construction workers leaving nails behind on a thoroughfare they had been working on. The third set was ruined by sharp chunks of metal that had been lying about on a street for several weeks. The situation is so bad that drivers in Washington, D.C., can submit pothole damage claims to get their money back.

In his speeches, Donald Trump addresses this impression of community dysfunction -- and it is one that can be observed everywhere you go. In summer 2013, for example, I went to the DMV in Washington to get my driver's license. The bored official behind the desk flipped disinterestedly through my documents before looking at me and, with an impassive expression on her face, entering "F" for my gender. Ever since then, I have been a woman for American bureaucracy.

People expect a minimum of functionality from a modern state. But over the last 30 years, the conservatives and neoliberals have worked tirelessly to destroy the state, which they see as a form of imposed socialist administration. They have made America weak.

A new understanding of the state is long overdue in America. In a complicated world where everything is connected to everything else, the protective identity of a state must experience a renaissance. A newly sophisticated, resilient state is necessary. Trump is one of the few conservatives to have recognized that fact.

Rhode Island: How Does Trump Think?



To better understand Trump, my SPIEGEL colleague Matthias Gebauer and I drove up the Atlantic coast in June 2016 to Rhode Island, the smallest U.S. state. The summer home of Michael Flynn, 58, is located at the edge of a town called Middletown. At one point, he was the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, but then he had a falling out with Obama and was fired in 2014. During the fall of 2015, Trump invited Flynn to New York and he has since appointed him as national security adviser. Recently, the two have been discussing what might happen if there were a war between the U.S. and China. Listening to the general provides an impression of how the new America thinks.

Flynn hosted us on the wooden deck of his summer home, Atlantic breakers crashing into the cliffs along the coast. "We've got to examine the threats that we face in the 21st century," Flynn said. "Threats don't just come in the face of Vladimir Putin and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi out of ISIS, they come in different looks. One of the biggest ones is the economic threat."

Flynn was relaxed that morning, wearing jeans and flip-flops. He had a reputation within the DIA for being particularly tough. He said America was at the breaking point and that everything needed to be called into question -- especially military costs. "How is that cost paid for?"

That question could be the central tenet of the new government. For Trump, everything is business - economics, education and foreign policy. During the hour and a half that we spoke with Flynn, the discussion was not about common Western values and solidarity between states. For Trump and Flynn, foreign policy is an extension of domestic policy - they don't think about Aleppo without having Alabama in the backs of their minds. Their view of the world is comprised of a disconcerting mix of megalomania and small-mindedness. They want to build new nuclear weapons while at the same time leaving the rest of the world to fend for itself. What is certain, though, is that Alabama will take precedence over Aleppo.

Trump's diplomacy, Flynn said, operates according to a simple principle: "You start in any negotiation as high and as hard as you can possibly start, and now you go into a conversation."

The world will have to get used to the fact that the U.S. is now led by a brutal and merciless negotiator -- a man who leaves all his options open and whose values are not entirely clear.

Flynn recently flew to Moscow, where he sat next to Russian President Vladimir Putin at a dinner. Flynn appeared to feel very comfortable. He told us on his deck in Rhode Island that you've got to respect Putin. "He's a world leader," he said. "Putin will be a reliable partner for certain things for the United States."

After we said our goodbyes, he shouted out to us that Trump would enjoy a landslide victory and that they were going to take control of the country.

I must admit, the remark made me chuckle to myself.


Virginia: The Toilet Wars


America added yet another to its long list of wars this past year: the toilet wars. Put simply, it's about who is allowed to pee in which bowl. But as happens so often when people fight in the United States, this actually had to do with a major societal debate: the identity of the individual and who is allowed to define it. No one embodies the problem better than Gavin Grimm, 17.

He's been described as "the new face of the transgender movement." But when, on a sunny Tuesday in June, Grimm shuffled down the stairs in his pajamas to greet me at his family home in Gloucester, Virginia, he looked rather defeated.

Grimm has a chubby face and peach fuzz on his upper lip. His voice is scratchy and sounds like it is changing, the product of the hormones that he's been taking for some time now. Grimm used to be a girl who liked to roughhouse with the boys and wanted to play on the baseball team. Back then, he cried at night because he felt trapped in the wrong body. On the morning of his 15th birthday, he opened up to his mother and said he either wanted to have a sex change or die.

Grimm's school, Gloucester High, is located outside the town. The boulevard leading to it passes cornfields and farm houses. This part of America is rural and conservative, but the principal here was an exception and he allowed Grimm to use the boy's bathroom.

Following a complaint, though, the local school board banned Grimm from using the toilet. Grimm hired a lawyer and sued in response. The case worked its way through the courts and will soon be heard by the Supreme Court. The toilet war is only the latest front in the culture wars over the country's future.

Some 70 percent of Americans still identify themselves as Christian, with around 80 million of them, including Vice President Mike Pence, counting among the fundamentalists who, in some cases, don't believe in the theory of evolution but instead adhere to creationism, the idea that God created the Earth. Radical Christians consider people like Grimm to be sick because they defy their God-given gender. The local Baptist community threatened that Grimm would burn in hell for eternity. "It's not easy resisting the power of the church," Grimm says.

In places like Gloucester, the largely white, pious part of America is wrestling with the secular and cosmopolitan side of the country. In recent decades, Christian influence has steadily eroded and the once-dominant Christian culture has given way to a multicultural social order. Christian America has lost its cultural hegemony to people like Barack Obama and Gavin Grimm. It voted for Trump and Pence in an attempt to reconquer that hegemony.

The Outlook

It's true that things couldn't continue as they were. Of course it was wrong for Hillary Clinton to have accepted $675,000 from Wall Street Bankers in exchange for three speeches at a time when half of all Americans say they wouldn't know what to do if they had to pay an unexpected bill of $400. And surely things are out of balance when the six richest Americans (Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, Warren Buffett, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg and Mike Bloomberg) together have almost as much wealth as the entire poorer half of humanity.

Trump pledged a fascinating experiment to the American people and has secured the world's most important political office as a result. With the authority of a tough negotiator, he is trying to force companies like Ford and BMW to make investments in the United States. He is breaking with the laws of the markets and attempting to defeat capitalism with its own weapons. Can it work?

The markets have cheered his election, at least at the beginning, and Trump can count on the support of many Americans. But other countries will strike back and international partners will be transformed into rivals and major conflict with China is taking shape. However, Trump's battlefields are likely to be trade wars rather than campaigns of conquest.

The incoming president has spoken of uniting society, but his triumph rests on its division. Trump plays societal groups off against each other and the identity he is now prescribing for America is that of the 1950s, a time when white men drove gas guzzlers and women wore petticoats.

The atmosphere created by Trump is one that reduces the status of people like Gavin Grimm in order to give people like Mary and Tim Loyer the feeling they can achieve greatness. It feels like the country is going back to the future.

Last week, new polls came out showing that a majority of American were satisfied with what Obama delivered during his tenure in office. At the same time, Americans also made Donald Trump their next president. It's not always easy understanding you, America.

For his part, Grimm wants to flee rural America and fundamentalist Christians in the search for freedom. Tim Loyer hopes that Trump will create a new job for him. And Mike Flynn will now have a say in shaping America's future.

The three live in different worlds and wouldn't have much to say to each other. What began under George W. Bush and continued under Obama also won't stop under Trump - namely the decay of a society that no longer has the strength to agree on the most pressing questions of our time

[Flagg]

Thanas, you're just a blame America first shithead. These colors don't run, they tactically retreat and kill you with a drone. We'll do it!
USA!
USA!
USA!

[Adam Reynolds]

I really am wondering if the United States needs to split into several smaller nations at this point. Brexit may be a disaster, but the alternative doesn't seem much better.

[The Romulan Republic]

I really am wondering if the United States needs to split into several smaller nations at this point. Brexit may be a disaster, but the alternative doesn't seem much better.

I have no desire to see the Balkanization of the US, probably followed by decades of interstate rivals and likely nationalist animosities that would linger for centuries.

Not to mention states unilaterally seceding is illegal, Congress would likely never approve it, and thus the only two plausible outcomes are a) a movement that goes nowhere except for wasted effort and further dividing progressives, or b) civil war.

And frankly, I have no desire to let the shit hole parts of the country go their own way and do as they please. The though of an independent, nuclear-armed Texas that can decide for itself how minorities and women should be treated is a terrible thought.

The current drive in much of the world towards disunion and localized nationalism is part and parcel of the same disturbing trends as the rise of the Alt. Right.

[Simon_Jester]

This article is essentially correct.

There have been times in the past where I have genuinely believed Thanas was jumping too quickly to "blame the US" or "make this discussion a referendum on past US atrocities that aren't relevant" or some such.

However, even some of the things he said were not, in my honest opinion, accurate at the time... They certainly had the potential to become accurate, as demonstrated by this past election cycle, to my painful surprise.

The United States definitely does have a dark side that has been expanding dangerously over the past two decades, I had hoped the expansion was in the process of stopping and winding down, but it appears not. Now it's starting to metastasize.

Does anyone know any good recipes for crow?
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TRR?

While I don't think regional secessionism in the US is very practical and there would be a lot of negative side effects...

Do not assume bigger countries are automatically better. Among other things, when they're run as the US has been run for the past thirty years, they lead to situations where some of the provinces are allowed to do things that would be disastrously bad ideas if they were an independent country. And where those same provinces act as a brake on the rest of the nation actually doing anything positive or productive.

[K. A. Pital]

The United States definitely does have a dark side that has been expanding dangerously over the past two decades, I had hoped the expansion was in the process of stopping and winding down, but it appears not. Now it's starting to metastasize.

The problem is, all the "dark" stuff did not go away anywhere during Obama's time. It was just... there. In the heads. In the minds.

Now it's out in the open. But having "Obama-fleur" over US politics made people complacent. Some felt like the US is just a typical non-dangerous First World nation with a talkative and friendly technocratic leader, who isn't going to start random stupid wars on his own - at the very least.

The impression was wrong. And the US isn't Canada #2.

[Raj Ahten]

The United States definitely does have a dark side that has been expanding dangerously over the past two decades, I had hoped the expansion was in the process of stopping and winding down, but it appears not. Now it's starting to metastasize.

The problem is, all the "dark" stuff did not go away anywhere during Obama's time. It was just... there. In the heads. In the minds.

Now it's out in the open. But having "Obama-fleur" over US politics made people complacent. Some felt like the US is just a typical non-dangerous First World nation with a talkative and friendly technocratic leader, who isn't going to start random stupid wars on his own - at the very least.

The impression was wrong. And the US isn't Canada #2.

I must agree with you on this one. The US has long had it's nasty side and we aren't doing ourselves any favours by looking at the past with rose tinted glasses. Hell even the new divisiveness that we all decry isn't really New. John Birch society anyone? The civil rights struggle? It's easy to forget how nasty domestic politics have been in the US when we could paper it all over with nostalgia for the good economic times. That's not even getting into foreign policy at all.

Hell I might even say the good times in American History from the liberal perspective are vastly outweighed by the bad ones, with Jim Crow, Indian Genocide, Colonialist Wars and so on. But we had a few good ideas and the 90s looked great with the end of history so it's a hard come down for us now.

[Iroscato]

Does anyone know any good recipes for crow?

I took it neat, and by the bucketful for a good few weeks. I've had my fill though, the work must now begin on opposing this lunacy with fresh approaches.

[Tribble]

The impression was wrong. And the US isn't Canada #2.

Off topic, but just for the record when it comes to the Aboriginal community we're not much better. Canadians were committing genocide against the aboriginals until the early 1980s and many aboriginal communities still lack access to basics like safe drinking water. There are cases where aboriginals have committed crimes for no other reason than it's better to sit in a prison than stay in their communities, it's that appalling. What's perhaps worse is the overall lack of awareness by the Canadian population (unless it involves some environmental aspect like pipelines because all the environmental groups join in and make a fuss). Thousands of Aboriginal women gone missing and/or murdered over the past couple of decades, an amount far above the national average given their population? Overall homicide rate for aboriginals being more than six times the national average? Barely gets noticed over here.

[The Romulan Republic]

TRR?

While I don't think regional secessionism in the US is very practical and there would be a lot of negative side effects...

Do not assume bigger countries are automatically better.

First of all, I said nothing of the sort, and assume nothing of the sort.

Now, I don't exactly make a secret of the fact that I am a supporter of global government, but I recognize that that'll be a long time coming if it ever comes, and as things stand, no, a larger country is not necessarily better, although size tends to confer obvious advantages in terms of economic and military potential as well as cultural diversity.

However, we're not talking about weather a hypothetical smaller country is better than a hypothetical bigger country. We are talking about weather it would be advantageous to tear apart an existing country, and an existing superpower at that.

I am very much against tearing existing countries apart if it is at all possible to avoid. At worst, it means bloodshed, and at best, it means a great deal of hassle and inconvenience, and likely the weakening of all parties involved and the furthering of petty divisions and nationalist conflict. And I am of the mind that it is generally better, if one has a problem with the state of their country, to work to make the whole country better rather than pull a Cartman and say "Screw you guys, I'm going home."

I especially feel this way when it comes to the US, where the legal precedent on the legality of secession is pretty clear, and the country has a very bad history with secession.

Among other things, when they're run as the US has been run for the past thirty years, they lead to situations where some of the provinces are allowed to do things that would be disastrously bad ideas if they were an independent country. And where those same provinces act as a brake on the rest of the nation actually doing anything positive or productive.

If anything, that seems to me an argument for a stronger federal government and a reduction of "states' rights". Although I'll admit that right now, I'm feeling a lot more kindly disposed towards state defiance of the federal government.

[ray245]

The United States definitely does have a dark side that has been expanding dangerously over the past two decades, I had hoped the expansion was in the process of stopping and winding down, but it appears not. Now it's starting to metastasize.

The problem is, all the "dark" stuff did not go away anywhere during Obama's time. It was just... there. In the heads. In the minds.

Now it's out in the open. But having "Obama-fleur" over US politics made people complacent. Some felt like the US is just a typical non-dangerous First World nation with a talkative and friendly technocratic leader, who isn't going to start random stupid wars on his own - at the very least.

The impression was wrong. And the US isn't Canada #2.

At the same time, having Obama is also what made Trump possible. Obama was seen as weak and being incapable of making "good" and "tough" decisions. So the Americans elected a leader to show what they are really capable of, in terms of making horrible decisions.

[TheFeniX]

The problem is, all the "dark" stuff did not go away anywhere during Obama's time. It was just... there. In the heads. In the minds.

Being, then working since 2000, in Texas, all over this.... weird place. Nothing has really changed. Everyone just thought it did. Whenever threads were posted here where Texas did something really fucking stupid? "Haha, stupid Texans. Good thing <insert place I live> is full of all the smart people!" You think we were the only state with morons? Bigots? Whatever? They just wouldn't ever shut up. I have/had to listen to the most vile shit all the time. Blatant lies. Blatant "I'm just going to rationalize my racism with 'facts' because I want to think I'm a good person even though I deserve to have shit heaped on me until I suffocate." They were ignored, but they didn't change. At least not their message, but where they were voicing it.

This forum helped me a lot in my path to becoming a moderate. But 16 fucking years working with of Texans of all stripes helped way. fucking. more. than that.

You* ignored them. I lived with them.

Now it's out in the open. But having "Obama-fleur" over US politics made people complacent. Some felt like the US is just a typical non-dangerous First World nation with a talkative and friendly technocratic leader, who isn't going to start random stupid wars on his own - at the very least.

It's always been open on a level and you are correct: everyone just ignored it. "Black president = we won. Yell all you want old white people."

People know Ted Cruz is Latino (and born in Canada), right? His attitude is actually not that crazy for a Texas Hispanic. Black, White, Latino, Chinese, whatever: I've heard them all say incredibly bigoted things. The "joke" about "bi-sexuals should make up their mind." Heard it verbatim from a lesbian in Austin. "Fucking illegals, man." Heard constantly from other Hispanics (though the preferred term was "Mojados.") Name something vile, I've probably heard it.

Hell, at a certain time in my life, I might have said it.

Anyways, 8 years of Bush, 8 years of Obama: the amount of general conservaturd racism/whatever has not dwindled. They were just marginalized by the RNC (sort of), the news media, and even your average liberal groups as they, like many conservatives, found their echo chamber on Them Interwebs. But even then, people also ignored the Tea Party.

Trump just gave them someone they could vote for happily and the Republican party (and America) got taken for a ride because we all though we won. Even when, during the Golden Age of Obama, Texas morons were still doing everything they could to keep this state a conservative shit-hole.

Anyone who thought things were getting better at the base-level, you know, outside their hugboxes, was deluding themselves. Then those guy/gals you thought were gone? Dead? Dieing? To dumb to punch a ticket? They voted and you* didn't. Because people... I don't know, thought the millions who voted for Romney weren't going to show up in 2016 or something?

* NOTE: When I say "you," I am not talking about you, specifically.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Do the Germans seriously have this weird fantasized image of America? Or have they been overlooking the excesses of the Obama, Bush administration etc.? Some of things happening have been really a steady accumulation of a lot of shit that has been built up over the last few decades, from America's meddling in South America and elsewhere, to the present. It seems it is more an awakening for people outside the US who fantasized maybe a bit too much.

[Simon_Jester]

Trump represents a huge escalation over the level of nastiness the US has been exhibiting, and one that is only loosely connected to historical US foreign policy ugliness.

I, and some others like me, have in fact spent most of the Obama administration (at least on this forum) pointing out how the US position on civil rights issues and foreign policy could be much worse than it is- that the Obama administration did not represent, in any sense, a "low." That, again, it could be worse.

It just got even worse than that.

[Flagg]

The United States definitely does have a dark side that has been expanding dangerously over the past two decades, I had hoped the expansion was in the process of stopping and winding down, but it appears not. Now it's starting to metastasize.

The problem is, all the "dark" stuff did not go away anywhere during Obama's time. It was just... there. In the heads. In the minds.

Now it's out in the open. But having "Obama-fleur" over US politics made people complacent. Some felt like the US is just a typical non-dangerous First World nation with a talkative and friendly technocratic leader, who isn't going to start random stupid wars on his own - at the very least.

The impression was wrong. And the US isn't Canada #2.

I never thought we were anywhere close to just another first world country. And after a few years it was kind of clear that the only real difference between Obama's and Dubya's foreign policy was that we weren't going to launch wars of aggression based on bullshit neoconservative think tank recommendations. Otherwise the only difference was that the hunt for Bin Laden (which as we all know, ended in an act of war in the process of a mafia style hit) was put back on the front burner and there were more advanced drones used far more often.

[B5B7]

Trump is mainly a symptom, not the cause. Americans have been so concerned about the idea of the power of the state over individuals, that they have ignored the power of the states. USA is a nation where states rights trump individual human rights. That is America's true exceptionalism.
The only way America can be fixed is if the states lose their power to control the human body, to make that only a national level power, so that there is consistency of law and it is easier to prevent abuse via the courts. But it won't happen, the ideology of statesism is too embedded.

[Simon_Jester]

I wouldn't characterize state laws as being the fundamental problem, except in the context of some very specific issues. Some of the states cause problems, but others are more or less the only shelter available to citizens from a federal government that, at times like this, has... very fractured... priorities.

The US's general systemic problems have a lot more to do with a class war that the rich successfully fought and won in and around the 1980s, beginning a rollback of the gains made in the '60s and earlier. And with the sheer reactionary craziness of some of its citizens, but those citizens were not created by "states' rights." They would be a politically significant force even if the state governments did not exist.

I don't understand where you come by the notion that the power of the state governments is 'the real problem' here.

[ray245]

I wouldn't characterize state laws as being the fundamental problem, except in the context of some very specific issues. Some of the states cause problems, but others are more or less the only shelter available to citizens from a federal government that, at times like this, has... very fractured... priorities.

The US's general systemic problems have a lot more to do with a class war that the rich successfully fought and won in and around the 1980s, beginning a rollback of the gains made in the '60s and earlier. And with the sheer reactionary craziness of some of its citizens, but those citizens were not created by "states' rights." They would be a politically significant force even if the state governments did not exist.

I don't understand where you come by the notion that the power of the state governments is 'the real problem' here.

I would rather say in part this is due to the heart of the American individualism and the notion of an everlasting untapped wealth for everyone. After all, anyone who wants a good piece of land only has to go West and claim more lands.

Many other countries were forced to work together, because they either had to rebuild the country after a devastating war or live in colder regions that is quite hostile to many people.

[Simon_Jester]

Maybe, but I think it's a small part. It's something that the rich side of the class war was able to use as a weapon back in the '80s and '90s. But it's also something that the poor side of the class war was using for themselves, both in the late 19th century and in the mid-20th century.

It can be made to work both ways; the idea that people can and should be able to make themselves rich can be used to argue for more access and opportunities to power.

[Zinegata]

The United States definitely does have a dark side that has been expanding dangerously over the past two decades, I had hoped the expansion was in the process of stopping and winding down, but it appears not. Now it's starting to metastasize.

The rot started well before the late 90s. It's not just a Republican vs Democrat factionalism issue. America, quite frankly, is now a country that's so completely insecure with itself that it had to invent the myth of "defeating" the Soviet Union and pretending that it was the only nation that mattered on Earth for the past three decades. Which in many ways is something you inherited from the Brits who still have delusions of grandeur about the British Empire.

If you really get down to it, government and politics don't really affect personal success or happiness that much unless you live in a truly insane or repressive regime - of which America was not one for the past thirty years. That so many Americans are unhappy with their lives is a sign of a much simpler and yet deeper problem: Americans don't want to admit that they only have themselves to blame for their personal problems.

That you still keep pretending that "individualism" is a strength when it's increasingly just an excuse for Americans to pretend that they are personally awesome and somebody else is at fault is only adding to the malaise. Indeed, the whole idea that individualism is an integral part of the "American character" is debatable and possibly a whole bunch of baloney (as with at least half of the modern ideas attributed to the Founding Fathers) to begin with. Kennedy certainly wasn't appealing to individualism when he said "Ask not what your country can do for you".