Polygamist ninjas attack home of witness in sex assault case

[TimothyC]

Two armed “polygamist women” dressed like “ninjas” were subdued by a sword-wielding man during a home invasion, according to police in suburban Utah.

Police said the two women, aged 18 and 22, were attacking the home of a witness and victim in a criminal child sex assault case against a man the women called their “husband”.

The women “violently attacked one of the adult males in the house who came to see who was coming,” Ian Adams of the West Jordan police department told the Guardian.

“Another adult male joined the fray in defense of the first male victim. He was armed with a sword, and using a sword … and with the other male [was] able to subdue the two women until police arrived and took them into custody.”

The attack took place just before 4am on Friday. The child witness was home but was not involved in the incident, Adams said.

The two women are in custody at Salt Lake County Jail. Neither their names nor mugshots, nor the name of the “husband”, are being released, because to do so could identify the child victim.

Adams said: “They’re all related.”

Another officer with West Jordan police said the sex assault complaint was against the victim’s uncle.

Two women clad in ninja costumes, armed with knives and stun guns, forced their way through the door. The family believes they were there to abduct a 15-year-old girl inside.

One of the men who subdued the women was interviewed by the local Fox 13 new station. “I went to the bottom of the stairs and saw a couple of ninjas coming down,” the man was quoted as saying. “They were all dark gray or black, and they had black rubber gloves on and masks. All I could see was their eyes.”

The women are both charged with aggravated burglary, aggravated assault and witness tampering, all felonies. After the attack, Adams said, “the two female suspects claimed to be the wives of the male who’s sitting in custody on the child sex offenses”.

“I’ve never seen anything like this in my career,” said Adams. “I have a feeling that as this investigation progresses we’ll have more details. It’s still kind of fresh.”

Adams said he could not provide any further information about the type of sword that had been used to subdue the women.

West Jordan is a suburb of Salt Lake City, and is home to about 110,000 people, according to the US Census Bureau.

Plural marriage was practised in Utah by members of the Mormon church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, until the 1890s, when it was rejected by the church and banned by the state.

In August, an appeals court in Utah partially lifted the ban, allowing a man and a woman to marry and live with others they consider “spouses”, after a lawsuit by stars of the cable network show Sister Wives.

The attack isn't funny. The fact that they dressed up like ninjas is.

[Ralin]

The ninja costumes are weird but understandable, since they would legit make you hard to identify.

It's the fact that the victims happened to have a friend with a sword hanging out with them.

[Highlord Laan]

The ninja costumes are weird but understandable, since they would legit make you hard to identify.

It's the fact that the victims happened to have a friend with a sword hanging out with them.

*looks at the rack of three battle-ready blades on his wall*

This is a strange thing? I've got a half-unfolded e-tool next to my nightstand, too. My neighborhood has gone downhill, fast, but I won't keep guns outside the safe because my three year old niece is often around.

[Ralin]

The ninja costumes are weird but understandable, since they would legit make you hard to identify.

It's the fact that the victims happened to have a friend with a sword hanging out with them.

*looks at the rack of three battle-ready blades on his wall*

This is a strange thing? I've got a half-unfolded e-tool next to my nightstand, too. My neighborhood has gone downhill, fast, but I won't keep guns outside the safe because my three year old niece is often around.

Even if there was one laying around I wouldn't expect many people's reaction to be going Highlander. Actual soldiers usually don't remember they have knives and bayonets and shit when a fight is going down.

[Elheru Aran]

It's possible the sword may have been the only weapon to hand at the moment, and in those circumstances, why not? If you don't have time to go to another room and open a gun-safe, assuming you have guns and they're in a safe or tucked away under the bed or whatever, you grab what's convenient, nearby and capable of causing damage... well, you'll grab it and to hell with who gives you a funny look later because you gotta take care of it RIGHT AWAY.

And I have, uh, nine swords... no guns, though. Well, a cute little pellet-gun, but that's it.

[Raw Shark]

When you're fighting ninjas, you use a sword. This guy is just genre savvy.

[Broomstick]

I agree with Elheru Aran. I mean, at my household we've used both a crossbow and a garden shovel to repel Bad People With Violent Intent.

I also happen to own a machete, which isn't quite a sword... but still no guns in here.

[Elheru Aran]

Swords are far more common than one might think... there's at least four or five sword forums on the Internet that I can think of off the top of my head. Legit ones too, not tryhard teen mall-ninja otaku-freak websites. Which, unfortunately, is what sword fans tend to get identified with these days.

Anyway, I bet if you ask a cop, you'll probably hear about a lot of weird things people grab to defend their home with. There's logical things like frying pans and baseball bats... but then someone's probably used a chair at some point, or a toaster...

That digression aside: Mormon ninjas. WTF. That, if nothing else, should indicate that the fundamentalist group in question is probably Up to No Good (TM).

[Isolder74]

Heck I have one.

My Glamdring isn't sharpened but it would still make a rather effective club with just the pummel. But if I was in this situation the cast iron frying pan would be my weapon of choice.

[Simon_Jester]

To be fair, people on this forum are probably more likely to have a sword than a representative sample of the population.

[Mr. Coffee]

So someone someplace had an encounter they thought would be extralegal...

Fuck everyone involved with this case, especilly those whores. Wait, you thought your great man wasn't Jesus? Fuvck you. And fuck your family.

Seriously, why do we have a thread for this?

[Eternal_Freedom]

Because the idea of Mormon Ninjas being subdued by a sword-wielding bloke is actually pretty damn funny? Not the attack itself, but the batshit-craziness involved

[Mr. Coffee]

No, realy, anyone else want to make me wait to tell you fucktards what I actually think of you? Anyone?

[Eternal_Freedom]

Something bothering you Coffee?

[Prannon]

Weird event sparks small discussion on a discussion board, but thread over I guess cuz Coffee says.

[Simon_Jester]

No, realy, anyone else want to make me wait to tell you fucktards what I actually think of you? Anyone?

When have you ever waited?

Besides, there's precedent for posting actual Onion articles in N&P; this is just human interest in the sheer weirdness of it all.

[Gandalf]

Coffee, go away and come back when you're sober.

[Rogue 9]

Something bothering you Coffee?

It bothers me that your assholes think to give those ladies shit for goddamn things you do yourself. No, shut yout fuking mouth, bitch.

You think we dress up in ninja outfits and raid the houses of people armed with swords to kidnap children?

[Brother-Captain Gaius]

I'm not sure if Drunk Coffee is hilarious or just sad.

[LadyTevar]

Back on Topic:

Police said the two women, aged 18 and 22, were attacking the home of a witness and victim in a criminal child sex assault case against a man the women called their “husband”

So, the two women are "wives" of a man accused of sexually assulating a 15yr old girl. The man may or may not be related to the girl. But the girl was a victim and a witness, and the man was in custody pending trial, I assume.
So, the "sister-wives" decide to kidnap/harm/kill? the girl, in order to get their man out of trouble.

I'm not sure why there was a sword in the house, and I'm not sure how it was used to stop the sister-wives, but they broke in with Intent to Harm. Getting smacked around by the men inside the house is the least of their worries now. They've just given ammo to the prosecuting attorney, especially if they'd talked to their man in jail before pulling this trick. Sister-wives usually don't act without Husbandly Approval.

[LadyTevar]

Coffee's ranting sent to HOS, and he's been sent to the Drunk Tank (tempban) to detox.

[Broomstick]

So, the two women are "wives" of a man accused of sexually assulating a 15yr old girl. The man may or may not be related to the girl. But the girl was a victim and a witness, and the man was in custody pending trial, I assume.

So, the "sister-wives" decide to kidnap/harm/kill? the girl, in order to get their man out of trouble.

Given the age of the girl, and how the little voices in these mens' heads have been telling them to marry teenagers since the days of Josephe Smith, I have to wonder if the "sexual assault" could also be described as an attempted (or successful) consummation of a forced marriage. In which case the sister-wives might regard the 15 year old as another sister-wife and were not intending to physically harm her but rather to kidnap her and take her away to the "family". The polygamists out that way aren't above kidnapping and forcibly holding a reluctant woman. They also regard 14 and 15 year olds as old enough to marry.

As for being related - at this point pretty much everyone in the FLDS communities are related to each other, in some cases a little closely to be healthy. They're starting to have all sorts of weird recessives come out of the mix.

[Elheru Aran]

Starting to? No starting to. They've been for a while now, if you take Rebecca Musser's account at value value. We're talking about uncles marrying almost-nieces in some cases. Fun stuff like fumarase deficiency.

Apart from the incest, they tend to progressively set their sights lower and lower as they go-- Warren Jeffs was convicted partly upon a recording of him consummating a 'heavenly marriage' with a 12-year-old. Nasty business and a big reason why I think there needs to be some limits upon what practitioners of religion are permitted to do in the name of their faith.

[Grumman]

Nasty business and a big reason why I think there needs to be some limits upon what practitioners of religion are permitted to do in the name of their faith.

Anyone who doesn't believe that clearly hasn't given the question sufficient thought. A reminder that in certain religions proper observance involves murdering someone and wearing their skin should make them rethink their answer.

[Ralin]

Nasty business and a big reason why I think there needs to be some limits upon what practitioners of religion are permitted to do in the name of their faith.

Anyone who doesn't believe that clearly hasn't given the question sufficient thought. A reminder that in certain religions proper observance involves murdering someone and wearing their skin should make them rethink their answer.

I'd actually prefer the occasional practicing skinwalker to institutional rape and child molestation!