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Post by Nathan F » 2003-03-24 05:09pm

Sigh, when does S.B. get a VI title?

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Post by fgalkin » 2003-03-24 05:40pm

Stas Bush wrote:Montcalm
Of course. :twisted: But it was found to be more truthful than the "great" CNN. If you like independent mass-media: come to Russia. Here are 2 gov-independent channels with reporters in Baghdad. Or any European country which has it's own independent news. ;)
INDEPENDANT MASS MEDIA?! :shock: What are you, a branwashed moron?! :shock: You do, of course, realize, that since Putin kicked out the oligarchs, every media outlet in Russia is controlled by the government. :roll:

And we all know the stance of the Russian government on the Iraqi war. :roll:

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Post by fgalkin » 2003-03-24 05:42pm

Nathan F wrote:Sigh, when does S.B. get a VI title?
Preferably, right now. He doesn't even know the political situation Russia, let alone the world. :roll:

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Post by Nathan F » 2003-03-24 06:02pm

Oy, what would we do without the level headed Russkie (fgalkin, that is) to tell it like it is...

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Post by fgalkin » 2003-03-24 06:14pm

Nathan F wrote:Oy, what would we do without the level headed Russkie (fgalkin, that is) to tell it like it is...

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But amazes me is the marvelous quality of Putin's propaganda machine. I mean, this moron actually cites ORT as an independant and non-biased source. :roll: And, despite of all the things that bastard has done, the vast majority of the people support him. :shock:

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Post by fgalkin » 2003-03-24 07:29pm

http://www.1tv.ru/owa/win/ort6_main.mai ... azdel_id=9

Do I detect a bias there? :roll:

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Post by generator_g1 » 2003-03-24 11:31pm

There's a joke running around here that the coalition forces would have to be renamed collision forces...
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Post by The Dark » 2003-03-24 11:40pm

fgalkin wrote:http://www.1tv.ru/owa/win/ort6_main.mai ... azdel_id=9

Do I detect a bias there? :roll:

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During the bombardment of the city of Basra in the south of Iraq were lost 50 people, among them one Russian citizen. This information is not confirmed yet from official sources, and we shall check it still. In Bagdad cite the data on number of victims during night (авианалета?) on city. Today the capital of Iraq has undergone the most powerful bombardment from the beginning of war. The first (раненые?) began to act in hospitals even at night, to morning their number has sharply increased. On the official data, in the list of victims - 207
A couple words I couldn't translate, and one sentence that didn't make sense (possibly because I don't know what авианалета means). Am I missing some connotation, fgalkin? I don't read much of a bias in it (except for the "not confirmed yet" part...if it's not confirmed, it shouldn't really be reported, IMHO...).
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Post by fgalkin » 2003-03-25 12:08am

авианалет means air raid. Раненые means "wounded"


This, however, is biased bs:
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Post by Darth Yoshi » 2003-03-25 12:51am

This is war. Civilian casualties are a given. No matter how advanced and well-trained the military is, there will always be mistakes resulting in unnecessary deaths.
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Post by Nathan F » 2003-03-25 12:55am

Darth Yoshi wrote:This is war. Civilian casualties are a given. No matter how advanced and well-trained the military is, there will always be mistakes resulting in unnecessary deaths.
Exactly. And considering the huge amounts of ordnance that have been fired into baghdad, the low number of civilian casualties, while not good, is quite amazing.

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Post by Master of Ossus » 2003-03-25 01:38am

Stas Bush wrote:US was hoped to be merciful to refugees. Instead, they killed refugees by firing a missile in their bus.
Casualties of war, what can I say?
Unfortunately, things like this happen during war. There's really no way around it. I hardly see that this is an example of the US not being "merciful to refugees" as you claim. It was a regrettable accident, but hardly an unexpected or inexplicable one.
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Post by Master of Ossus » 2003-03-25 01:39am

Stas Bush wrote:MkSheppard
Maybe because they love their country and hoped till the last moment everything would end peacefully.
These people are from SYRIA. They were SYRIAN refugees. "Their country" is Syria, and NOT Iraq.
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Post by K. A. Pital » 2003-03-25 06:24am

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From Syria? Oh, then even worse.
Of course there are casualties. That's exactly why the war should not have been started.
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Post by K. A. Pital » 2003-03-25 06:26am

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Where do you live, I wonder? Have you ever watched TV6?
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Post by Nathan F » 2003-03-25 10:37am

Stas Bush wrote:Master of Ossus
Of course there are casualties. That's exactly why the war should not have been started.
Just, just, just shut up...

What the hell do you expect? While casualties are never good, they have been extreemly low, and it could be alot worse.

Could SOMEONE shut this fricken troll down?

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Post by Vympel » 2003-03-25 10:50am

Nathan F wrote: Just, just, just shut up...

What the hell do you expect? While casualties are never good, they have been extreemly low, and it could be alot worse.

Could SOMEONE shut this fricken troll down?
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