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This has been a problem for a while, obviously, but there is a limit to what I'm willing to understand. A few months ago, Rudd challenged Gilliard for leadership, and was comprehensively defeated. Creamed, even. In fact, the only challenge that ever existed was one talked about by the media, Rudd was never in a position to challenge Gillard, he had virtually no support. Then you get shit like this
READERS are heartily sick of the Labor leadership talk and want us to write about policy.

Believe me, there is nothing I would like more. We are all bone weary with this discussion: like a trap from which no one escapes.

Trouble is, federal Labor keeps circling back to this point.

The poor poll trend can't be ignored.

Tony Abbott could take control of both houses of Parliament at the next election, and Labor's legacy is gone.

Carbon tax gone. Mining tax gone. Prospect of history judging this Labor government and this turbulent period in national affairs more kindly than the shouty, superficial, shallow present verdict — gone.

But let's be clear on what's happening now.

This is a different transaction than the discussion inside the party late last year and early this year.

First point. There is no counting or canvassing.

Labor MPs thought they had locked in behind Julia Gillard months ago, and the Prime Minister was, as a consequence, sufficiently supported to begin a recovery.

Not a resurrection. That was overly ambitious. But a recovery.

More collaboration and consultation would lead to better decision-making. More esprit de corps. This was the hope.

But right now, that hope is fading. The Prime Minister has rattled that confidence (or perhaps not confidence, but hope).

There is, in fact, very limited appetite for further bloodshed in Labor's ranks.

Many who orchestrated the leadership coup against Kevin Rudd, or went along for the ride, remain scarred by a transaction they now concede was ill-judged — and had consequences they did not expect.

The current talk isn't about another thrill-kill, for the hell of it — a bit more gratuitous violence. It is deep thinking about whether Labor's furniture can be saved at the next election — and the best means of saving it.

Pure and simple. Not personal. Not rancorous. Not about egos or score settling. Just, "what the hell do we do?"

Should Julia Gillard remain where she is, because the alternative creates more problems than it solves? (Perhaps the only remaining option is to let this cycle play out to the bitter end — let the voters cast their judgment on this period.)

Could the Prime Minister be persuaded to step aside in the second half of this year for the good of the party? The stepping aside option is inherently more favourable. It creates the possibility of a clean break, and the opportunity to draw a line over what's gone before.

Julia Gillard's colleagues are firmly of the belief that she would not tap the mat for Kevin Rudd: she would fight. Rudd remains an incredibly divisive figure internally.

Bill Shorten, the default next-generation candidate, is also very divisive internally. There are people inside Labor who would resist Shorten's installation in the leadership as fiercely as they would resist Rudd.

Some Labor people are of the view that Rudd and Shorten effective cancel each other out — neither can be ignored, but unless there is a sea change in the internal attitude to both men, neither can be leader cleanly, without collateral damage.

Perhaps a way to resolve the conundrum is a unity ticket between the two: Rudd as leader, Shorten as treasurer.

But a clean-break alternative some are pondering right now is the third man. A night-watchman, the person who can take Labor to a likely defeat but claw back the scale of the disaster.

Stephen Smith leads the current talk, but he's not the only option the Labor Party has. Some doubt Smith buys Labor anything much apart from the fact that he is demonstrably not Julia Gillard.

What Labor needs in order to put a floor under the primary vote is someone who can be an effective counterpoint to Tony Abbott; who can talk credibly to Labor's base; who is steady under intolerable pressure; and who can cut through in the media.

Talk of factional bosses calling the shots behind the scenes and delivering ultimatums misses an essential point: Labor's factions these days are more about personal fiefdoms than about Right-Left numbers.

Factional bosses delivering ultimatums in newspapers may in fact be more concerned about preserving their own mythology than about actually directing traffic.

Various people will be influential in resolving this problem.

It is my judgment that Wayne Swan's attitude will be critical, and he's very close to the Prime Minister.
Julia Gillard is obviously critical.

Rudd's posture is critical. Shorten, who controls a significant bloc of caucus votes, is critical.

The preparedness of any night-watchman to take on the job is obviously critical, as are the attitude of the labour movement and the unfolding of events.

There is a way to go with this story yet.
Now, I won't dispute that Labor is fucked. Unless the entire coalition is suddenly found to be a paedophile ring or something similar that have the next election in the bag. I won't dispute that if she even makes it to the next election as leader, unless she wins she has days as Labor leader at best before being replaced, and she wont win. Speculating about who the next Labor leader will be is entirely valid, as is whether or not there will be enough of Labor left after the next election to make who the leader is relevant to anyone but party members. (I'm even wondering if I can justify preferencing them over the Coalition, not because I dislike their policy decisions, some of them I've even liked, but because they are so inept politically that I wonder if those goodish decisions weren't just happy accidents, and I normally vote fucking Greens.)

What is bullshit is anyone suggesting Rudd will ever be Labor leader again. He is not an internally divisive figure, the fact that he has lost two leadership challenges in three years indicates that. Internally, he is hated and the only reason he might win preselection is because they will probably loose his seat if anyone else runs there. The only way he should be associated with the phrase Labor leader is if it is preceded by the word former. Yet it keeps happening, the media keep spinning out this bullshit 'speculation' that is clearly wrong to anyone who has actually looked at what has happened in the Labor party in the last six months, yet these people are supposed to be professional analysts apparently haven't. Some of it coming from News and Fairfax I at least understand, News is News and Julia Gillard apparently personally pisses in Michelle Grattans cornflakes every morning, but it isn't just the papers, it's the broader media that does it, even the ABC isn't immune, and I have to wonder at what point does making up the amount of bullshit they are actually become harder than just reporting what is actually going on?
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The article you've just quoted makes it pretty clear that Kevin Rudd could not be leader again, so...what exactly is your objection? There's something to be said for the idea that the political media in Australia is totally divorced from the reality of the general public and exists only for itself, with the vast majority of commentary totally irrelevant and invisible to 95% of the populace and only bleeding through on the edges in terms of really big narratives (ie Labor is a shambles), but this article can't be classed in that category. It's fundamental point - that Gillard's strength (legislative accomplishments) will be wiped out because of her weaknesses (she's played the political game really badly) - is true, and the ALP has to confront it.
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Julia Gillard's colleagues are firmly of the belief that she would not tap the mat for Kevin Rudd: she would fight. Rudd remains an incredibly divisive figure internally.

Bill Shorten, the default next-generation candidate, is also very divisive internally. There are people inside Labor who would resist Shorten's installation in the leadership as fiercely as they would resist Rudd.

Some Labor people are of the view that Rudd and Shorten effective cancel each other out — neither can be ignored, but unless there is a sea change in the internal attitude to both men, neither can be leader cleanly, without collateral damage.

Perhaps a way to resolve the conundrum is a unity ticket between the two: Rudd as leader, Shorten as treasurer.
That's not discounting the possibility of Rudd running as leader again, that's suggesting Labor may be courting the idea. Its not on the actual page with the article, but the link to the article from the Age homepage actually says 'ALP Saviours: Rudd, Shorten or both?'

The issue I have isn't just with this article, which does actually make some cogent points about what Labor are going to need to do to recover from this cluster, and what the Coalition are likely to try and do once they take power, but it also couches some drivel in there, and this is not the most in depth look at what is really happening in Labor most people are likely to read, it's actually more in depth than most people will ever see because its a Fairfax piece. And it contains speculation so unfounded it is almost fiction. Rudd cannot and will not be Labor leader again, Shorten as treasurer or no, but this gets floated in an article that is essentially about where Labor go and what they do from here.
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Alkaloid wrote:Rudd cannot and will not be Labor leader again, Shorten as treasurer or no, but this gets floated in an article that is essentially about where Labor go and what they do from here.
Yeah but that's because Labor is dysfunctional about it, not because it wouldn't work. So why shouldn't the media comment on this? Like it or not, Labor is getting fucked due to the decisions it has made and it has shown every indication to have not learned a goddamn thing, which is why it's well on the way to losing the next election in a landslide. Gillard is deeply unpopular, she will remain so up until the moment she leads the ALP to a staggering defeat which will take years to recover from, and the ALP can fucking do something about it right now if it wants to but it won't.
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Rudd is the one thing Labor is not dysfunctional about, they do not want him as leader. A minority do, but not enough to actually matter when it comes to the running of the party like has happened with the mining tax or the pokies reform or support for Slipper and Thompson. And ditching Gillard is about the worst Labor can do now. Any change in leadership will be treated like Labor ditched Gillard because they were scared of defeat, which will be true, and refused to support her because it was not expedient, which is their major image problem at the moment, they will go whichever way focus groups tell them. Let the electorate punish Gillard, crush her, and Labor will recover, even if it takes years. Don't let them have that and they wont. Best thing for Labor now is she looses and then steps down.
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