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By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent – 1 min ago

WASHINGTON – Virtually unknown a month ago, Christine O'Donnell rode a surge of support from tea party activists to victory in Delaware's Republican Senate primary Tuesday night, dealing yet another setback to the GOP establishment in a campaign season full of them. A second insurgent trailed narrowly in a long, late count for the GOP nomination in New Hampshire.

O'Donnell defeated nine-term Rep. Mike Castle, a fixture in Delaware politics for a generation and a political moderate. Republican Party officials, who had touted him as their only hope for winning the seat in the fall, made clear as the votes were being counted they would not provide O'Donnell funding in the general election campaign.

She enters the fall race as an underdog to Chris Coons, a county executive who was unopposed for the Democratic nomination. The Republican state chairman, Tom Ross, said recently she "could not be elected dogcatcher," and records surfaced during the campaign showing that the IRS had once slapped a lien against her and her house had been headed for foreclosure. She also claimed falsely to have carried two of the state's counties in a race against Vice President Joe Biden two years ago.

With unemployment high and President Barack Obama's popularity below 50 percent, Republicans said a run of hotly contested primaries this spring and summer reflected voter enthusiasm that will serve the party well in the fall. The GOP needs to win 40 seats to take the House and 10 for control of the Senate.

Democrats countered that the presence of tea party-supported Republicans on the ballot on Nov. 2 would prove costly to the GOP. That proposition will be tested in seven weeks' time in Senate races in Nevada, Colorado, Florida, Kentucky — all states where establishment Republican candidates fell in earlier primaries — and now Delaware.

In the other marquee race of the night, for New Hampshire's Republican Senate nomination, lawyer Ovide Lamontagne raced to an early lead, then fell behind former Attorney General Kelly Ayotte by a few hundred votes with ballots counted in slightly more than half the state's precincts.
Lamontagne, a former chairman of the state Board of Education, campaigned with the support of tea party activists, while Ayotte had a coalition of establishment Republicans, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and other conservatives.
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The winner will face Democratic Rep. Paul Hodes, who is giving up his seat in the House to run for the Senate.
Nearly complete returns from Delaware showed O'Donnell with 53 percent of the vote. "Don't ever underestimate the power of 'we the people,'" she told supporters who cheered her triumph.

But Coons issued a statement moments after Castle's defeat. "We cannot let Joe Biden's seat fall into ultraconservative hands," he said.
In other races, Democratic Attorney General Andrew Cuomo of New York faced no opposition for the party's nomination for governor, and he will be the prohibitive favorite in the fall for an office his father held for three terms.

Political novice Carl Paladino, a wealthy developer who enjoyed tea party support, defeated former Rep. Rick Lazio for the Republican nomination. Lazio angled for the conservative nomination and a spot on the November ballot anyway.

Wisconsin businessman Ron Johnson defeated two minor opponents for the Republican nomination to oppose three-term Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold in November in what polls show is a tight race. Johnson has said he will spend millions of his own money to finance his campaign through Election Day.

In New York, 40-year veteran Democratic Rep. Charles Rangel easily won renomination in his first time on the ballot since the House ethics committee accused him of 13 violations, most of them relating to his personal finances.

In all, five states chose nominees for the Senate, and six more had gubernatorial hopefuls on the ballot in the final big night of a primary season marked by recession and political upheaval. The winners had scant time to refocus their energies for midterm elections on Nov. 2.

Castle's defeat boosted the number of members of Congress who have lost primaries to eight, five Republicans and three Democrats. But that list does not include a lengthy list of GOP contenders who fell to tea party-supported challengers despite having the backing of party officials eager to maximize their gains in November.
In a postscript from one of them, Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska is expected to announce by week's end whether she will mount a write-in campaign following her primary defeat last month.

The Republican primary in Delaware took a sharp turn for the negative three weeks ago after the Tea Party Express, Palin and Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina announced they would come to O'Donnell's aid.


Castle, a former two-term governor and a veteran of nearly two decades in the House, was repeatedly assailed as a liberal, a Republican in name only. He and the party responded by challenging O'Donnell's fitness for public office.

In an extraordinary move, the state Republican Party launched automated phone calls attacking O'Donnell in the campaign's final hours. The calls feature the voice of a woman who identified herself as Kristin Murray, O'Donnell's campaign manager in her 2008 unsuccessful Senate campaign, accusing the candidate of "living on campaign donations — using them for rent and personal expenses, while leaving her workers unpaid and piling up thousands in debt."

Biden resigned the seat in early 2009, shortly after being sworn in as vice president, and his successor, Democratic Sen. Ted Kaufman, pledged not to run for a full term.

The GOP establishment confronted a possible second defeat in Delaware, where businesswoman Michelle Rollins trailed in a race for the nomination for the state's lone House seat in late returns. John Carney was unopposed for the Democratic nomination.

In Maryland, former Republican Gov. Bob Ehrlich won the nomination for a rematch against the man who ousted him from office in 2006, Democratic Gov. Martin O'Malley.

In Wisconsin, Milwaukee County Executive Scott Walker defeated former Rep. Mark Neumann for the Republican nomination for governor. Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett won the Democratic nomination.

Rangel's principal challenger for the nomination in his Harlem-based district was Adam Clayton Powell IV, a state assemblyman whose father Rangel defeated 40 years ago. In the decades since, Rangel rose to become chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, with enormous power over taxes, trade, Medicare and more, but Democrats forced him to step aside from that panel while he battles ethics charges.

He is accused of accepting several New York City rent-stabilized apartments, and omitting information on his financial disclosure forms. He's also accused of failing to pay taxes from a rental property in the Dominican Republic, and improperly soliciting money for a college center to be named after him. He has vowed to fight the charges, and faces an ethics committee trial, possibly after the elections.

A second New York Democratic incumbent, Rep. Carolyn Maloney, won easily despite a spirited challenge.
Rhode Island had a rare open seat in its two-member House delegation, following the decision of Democratic Rep. Patrick Kennedy to retire. Providence Mayor David Cicilline, who is openly gay, defeated three rivals for the Democratic nomination.

(This version CORRECTS Updates with Lamontagne now trailing Ayotte in NH. corrects date of Biden-O'Donnell race to 2008. Multimedia: An interactive that looks at more than two dozen tea-party-influenced races is available, wdc/teaparty.)
The Blood bath and political purges of the right continue En Mass it seems. Wildly far right people continue to Purge more moderate yet well established candidates in primaries, pitting them against strong Democrats for November. There is an ever growing list of Republicans who fall to wacky teaParty members and I can't help this will come back to bite them big time in the general Election.

We may have a whole election of "Sharron Angles" who is once more trailing Harry Reid, a man whose political career was deemed an "easy target" by even those on the left, and now looks to be headed toward re-election.
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I have a hard time imagining Christine O'Donnell winning anything in New Castle County. The county is considerably more liberal than the other two, with a very strong Democratic core in Wilmington (the largest city in the state) and Newark (location of the University of Delaware), and her opponent is the popular and competent New Castle County executive. This is a problem for her, because New Castle County represents approximately 2/3 of the state's population.

Coons was a longshot against Mike Castle. I haven't seen enough poll data to make any predictions now, but I have to imagine he has a better chance against O'Donnell.
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I'd love to see the Right's own fanaticism come back to bite it in the ass this November. They so desperately deserve it.
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RedImperator wrote: Coons was a longshot against Mike Castle. I haven't seen enough poll data to make any predictions now, but I have to imagine he has a better chance against O'Donnell.
Lets put it this way:
According to Nate Silver Coons had a 5% chance of beating Castle.

Coons has a 85% chance of beating O'Donnel.

Essentially, the Teabaggers just gave away one Senate seat.
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If the GOP fails to meet expectations this fall, while they continue to ride the merry teabagger train of ideological purity to hell and beyond?
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Everything points to it.

And do remember, it is quite unlikely that the Republicans will not see large gains these midterms. Even if they do not take over either the House or the Senate (the second of which is very unlikely), they can just continue with their "strategy" of blocking everything, which has worked out quite well so far for them.
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The bad thing of course is that this drags the GOP further to the right, as Mike Castle was one of those few republicans who were willing to compromise and who got along with Biden very well.
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Thanas wrote:The bad thing of course is that this drags the GOP further to the right, as Mike Castle was one of those few republicans who were willing to compromise and who got along with Biden very well.
Really? What things did he compromise on in the past two years?
You underestimate Republican Party loyalty. In America even during the Clinton years it was much more likely to see 100% of Republicans voting against something than 100% of Democrats voting against something. Even during the Bush years every single Bush bill was likely to draw at least a few Democratic votes. Maybe only from the blue dogs. But they would get a single provision in there somewhere for someone's home district and get someone in there. Yet in the last two Congresses the Republicans have been voting in mass. Where was Mike Castle Mr Moderate during the Heath-care debate for example, or finical reform or the 2nd free money for rich people bill?

Frankly speaking good on Ms Outlaw Masturbation O'Donnel for her win. Congratulations to every Tear party candidate who won yesterday by taking down their Republican challengers. As I predicted about six month the Republicans might have woken the sleeping giant. Next election season this might get ugly for the Republicans if there are two or three Tea Party candidates in the senate who can visit other Tea Party candidates races during the presidential election. Think of how far right these people will have to run. To far for some to run back to the left after the primary as O'Donnel should be demonstrating over the next month.

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I'm slightly surprised there haven't been any signs of Castle running as a third candidate, an independent. I bet he'd win.

Honestly, I thought I'd never see him lose an election here. He's always been incredibly popular with Democrats and independents. I have some mixed feelings about what looks like the end of his political career. He was a Republican, and therefore to the right of most Democrats, but he was also socially liberal. I have feminist friends who respected him and even worked for his House reelection campaign a few years ago. Coons will probably produce a more liberal voting record than Castle would, but as a leading centrist who already knew his way around Washington, Castle might have been useful as a Republican willing to compromise. We probably would have heard the phrase "All Senate Republicans except for Collins, Snowe and Castle..." quite a lot.

As for O'Donnell, she's a joke. She's been running for political office with no success for a few years now, including an abortive attempt at Biden's seat in 2008. (She lost by 30 points.) 2010's climate is the most favorable to her of any so far, but her chances are still incredibly fucking slim.

Coons says he doesn't want the campaign to turn negative. I'm not sure I believe him, because I suspect there's a lot of dirt he could dig up.
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The Democrats have to be cheering for the TeaParty runners. The more of the Republican extreme fringe that gets nominated the less of the critical votes in the middle will swing their way. The extreme wing in a party might be able to get it's supporters nominated, but getting them elected by the general population is an entirely different matter.
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Not every teabagger is a weak, marginal candidate. Some are running in districts or states where Ronald McDonald could get elected with an (R) after his name, and some are competent campaigners and fundraisers who'll be able to hide their crazier ideas from the general electorate (or will be able to hang on in elections where high Democratic apathy and high Republican enthusiasm distort turnout enough to win on the strength of habitual party loyalists).

In Delaware, though, it looks very much like the teabaggers just gave away a Senate seat. Delaware just does not have a big enough far-right core for a Tea Party candidate to carry the entire state appealing only to them. I don't think the official Delaware Republican organization refusing to help her will actually matter that much financially--O'Donnell is certain to get national money--but if they really follow through, that means she's not going to have any access to the state GOP's brain trust, which is a serious problem for a candidate who is, despite having run for the same seat two years ago, still basically an amateur. Again, she'll have out of state help, but there's no substitute for local advisers who know how state politics works and how the state electorate thinks. The Hillary Clinton campaign lost critical states in part because the national campaign headquarters repeatedly ignored state campaign officials. Sarah Palin might be able to draw a crowd, but she doesn't know dick about how to win an election in Delaware.
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Nice. Nine term congressman gone. We need more of this happening on both sides of the political divide for real, genuine reform.
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Thanas wrote:The bad thing of course is that this drags the GOP further to the right, as Mike Castle was one of those few republicans who were willing to compromise and who got along with Biden very well.
Really? What things did he compromise on in the past two years?
He voted for Stem Cell research, even co-sponsoring the bill that was vetoed by Bush. He is still arguing for embryonic stem cell research, he was also one of two republicans who voted for the law that would limit corporate spending on political campaigns after the Supreme Court made that horrendous decision.
That is pretty left-wing for a Republican.
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Thanas wrote:
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Thanas wrote:The bad thing of course is that this drags the GOP further to the right, as Mike Castle was one of those few republicans who were willing to compromise and who got along with Biden very well.
Really? What things did he compromise on in the past two years?
He voted for Stem Cell research, even co-sponsoring the bill that was vetoed by Bush. He is still arguing for embryonic stem cell research, he was also one of two republicans who voted for the law that would limit corporate spending on political campaigns after the Supreme Court made that horrendous decision.
That is pretty left-wing for a Republican.
Does it really count as compromise if it's a bill he co-sponsored?
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Just to nit; she's not exactly unknown in DE. She's been around the block and back again in Delaware political circles but has just been considered a kook. She still is a kook, but now so is the Republican base.
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MKSheppard wrote:Nice. Nine term congressman gone. We need more of this happening on both sides of the political divide for real, genuine reform.
I take it you are in favor of term limitations on all elected positions, not just Presidency then? Or are you more 'depends on the position'.
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General Zod wrote:Does it really count as compromise if it's a bill he co-sponsored?
Even if it is not compromise in the strictest sense of the word, my originial point does stand - he was a moderate. Now, what did you try to accomplish with this question?
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Just so you are aware, this is Christine "you can't have masturbation without lust, so it's a sin" O'Donnell.

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OK, so this is Delaware Barbie... At least she looks better than Palin, is she any better in thinking on her feet if she is asked a question?
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Solauren wrote:I take it you are in favor of term limitations on all elected positions, not just Presidency then? Or are you more 'depends on the position'.
Heavily in favor. Term limits should be set up so that congressmen can only spend about eight years in office.

If eight years is good enough for the president.......why shouldn't it be good enough for Representatives and Senators?

Of course, some playing around would need to be done. Like ten years for representatives (five terms); and twelve years for Senators (two terms) so that a congressman can outlast a president by a bit to provide some stability; and so that senators CAN be re-elected.
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Heavily in favor. Term limits should be set up so that congressmen can only spend about eight years in office.

If eight years is good enough for the president.......why shouldn't it be good enough for Representatives and Senators?

Of course, some playing around would need to be done. Like ten years for representatives (five terms); and twelve years for Senators (two terms) so that a congressman can outlast a president by a bit to provide some stability; and so that senators CAN be re-elected.
How about the gold standard then of 12 years. As in you can spend 12 years as a Senator(Two terms) spend 12 years as the President (Three Terms) or spend six terms as a Representative (Six Terms) total service in US government positions can not exceed 12 years, if you spend a senate term and get re-elected you can only serve one time as President and then out you go.

Combine that with publicly financed campaigns will go a long way towards cutting down on the almost dynastic politicos of Washington.

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MKSheppard wrote:Nice. Nine term congressman gone. We need more of this happening on both sides of the political divide for real, genuine reform.
Yes, just like the reasoning behind term limits. Let's just surrender full control over the Washington patronage and networking system that allows anything to get done to lobbyists and Senators-for-Life. Better yet, why don't we allow the Fortune 500 to just fill the committees with lobbyists directly, and we can still run and elect ceremonial representatives based on their hair color, dog, and family interpersonal dynamics as reported by unnamed sources.

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Illuminatus Primus wrote:*snip rant*
Term limits force the EEVIL KORPORATIONS to have to keep buying the new politicans; instead of having a bought politican for the next 20-30 years who can be kept ameniable by slow drips of money.
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Heavily in favor. Term limits should be set up so that congressmen can only spend about eight years in office.

If eight years is good enough for the president.......why shouldn't it be good enough for Representatives and Senators?

Of course, some playing around would need to be done. Like ten years for representatives (five terms); and twelve years for Senators (two terms) so that a congressman can outlast a president by a bit to provide some stability; and so that senators CAN be re-elected.
How about the gold standard then of 12 years. As in you can spend 12 years as a Senator(Two terms) spend 12 years as the President (Three Terms) or spend six terms as a Representative (Six Terms) total service in US government positions can not exceed 12 years, if you spend a senate term and get re-elected you can only serve one time as President and then out you go.

Combine that with publicly financed campaigns will go a long way towards cutting down on the almost dynastic politicos of Washington.
Would you put similar restrictions on bureaucrats? One result of high turnover in the elected offices could be a more powerful civil service, picking up the seniority reins where the political figures dropped them. Not to say that top-level bureaucrats aren't already very powerful people, who rule their agencies largely unchecked unless they are very ideological and there's a shift in political power, or they royally fuck up.
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The Original Nex wrote: Would you put similar restrictions on bureaucrats? One result of high turnover in the elected offices could be a more powerful civil service, picking up the seniority reins where the political figures dropped them. Not to say that top-level bureaucrats aren't already very powerful people, who rule their agencies largely unchecked unless they are very ideological and there's a shift in political power, or they royally fuck up.
HAHAHAHAH. Oh man, you're funny!

The high level bureaucrats at work arn't powerful for squat by comparison to the elected officals.

When PC's were booted out and the Liberals came in, half the high level managers were misberal that there pet projects all got axed within 1 week of the new Minister of Finance coming in. The others rushed to justify them.

Bureaucrats are only powerful within a given election cycle/elected agency head cycle. I've seen projects that cost millions canned because a elected official decided they didn't like them.
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